Matrian SNAKE !!!!!!!

[nacnud]

Yep it's a real Crotalus lepidus

 

[telfrow]

Too bad no one's talking about the rocks...excuse me, snake.<br /><br />By the way, I had some time to waste, and looked at couple of your web sites. <br /><br />Lots of rocks. <br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[aetherius]

jatslo,<br /><br />Why do you ignore empirics? Logic and philosophy are one in the same. Theory becomes fact when the empircal evidence tips the scales toward fact. Sure, there are many times when logic and observation are at odds but it is only through additional observation, not philosophical meanderings, that the illogical is explained.

 

[jatslo]

Because it is illogical, to speak in anything but pairs?<br /><br />---Jatslo

 

[claywoman]

Nacnud,<br /><br />I aced both biology and geology....but the math is my biggest downfall. I aced both elementary and intermediate algebra and got an A- in Statistics...but I had to do at least 8 hours of homework per night to do it....I have to understand the why's of a subject to really understand it, and math is definites, and I have trouble with definites....I memorized the formulas and everything, but to me, math is definitely above my head!!! That's why I became a history major....I love history, because real historians are out there proving the why's....

 

[extrasense]

Good that you noticed. Many people here never looked at the pictures from Mars.<br /><br />es<br />

 

[odysseus145]

I look at Mars pictures regularly, including the ones you've posted. There are only rocks and regolith. No snakes, statues, or flowers. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

<font color="yellow">"These following threads belong in SETI..."</font><br /><br />Just my $0.02 worth...<br /><br />I agree that several of these threads don't belong in SS&A. You mentioned a few that I would like to see moved. My concern is that you are throwing too big a blanket over the question of ET life. "SETI" stands for "Search for Extraterrestrial <b><i>Intelligence</i></b>." There <i><b>is</b></i> legitimate science being done in regard to SETI, but frankly the whole subject seems to be riddled with pseudoscience. I rarely visit the SETI forum for that reason. However, IMHO, the search for extraterrestrial life in general is a legitimate scientific question and deserves its place here in a science forum. Yes, this <i>will</i> draw some of the tin-hat crowd, but that's hardly avoidable in a public open board such as Uplink.<br /><br />Oh, and btw...e<img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" />s, they're rocks, Dude. Get a grip. <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[extrasense]

no swamps on Mars, sorry<br />

 

[yevaud]

Swampcat, I completely agree. I would've responded sooner, but I was at work all night, just got home. So, your 8am today is my 8pm.<br /><br />I didn't want to go off on a long diatribe, which I try not to do (I have here and there). SETI <b>is</b> as legitimate scientific pursuit, and I agree that there's great merit in that end of it. But, the reality is that here, on SDC, the "tin hat crowd" (interesting name, that!) has taken that forum as their own.<br /><br />I included all of those threads, as they either begin and progress with no real science in them or, in the lone case of "Tachyons," has devolved into something off from what it could have been. Mind, I'm not saying that people don't have an interest in them, and achieve joy in participating in them. That's perfectly fine. But, SSA is about legitimate science, and so I just think they should be elsewhere.<br /><br />Claywoman. No, your understanding of science if probably good. But the subject matter is toned upwards or downwards in complexity, depending on the matter and the audience. I admit the tachyon one did get a bit complex, as did the one on Quantum Physics.<br /><br />So if you ever run into one of those threads, and need it made a bit more user-friendly for you, just ask. I think any of us who do these sort of explanations would be more than happy to do so.<br /><br />Jatslo: Hehe. Dogs indeed! <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />ES:<br /><br />And they are indeed rocks. Capiche? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[robnissen]

I agree completely. While this thread should be in SETI, threads discussing whether there are microbes on Mars, either now or in the past, belong here. That is a legitimate line of scientific inquiry, and they have nothing to do with E.T. INTELLEGENCE!!

 

[claywoman]

I try not to ask anything on threads that are far above my head, mainly why should others have to talk down to someone who was so dumb that she majored in something that kept her far, far away from math....I have a daughter planning on going back to school once her youngest is old enough for pre-school. She cut her teeth on physics books when she was 14....i imagine she will major in the subject. she never could figure out why i had trouble with math, she knew, and i mean knew her times tables through12 when she was three...she also has an astronomical IQ, much higher then mine...

 

[yevaud]

Here's hoping he has a "DNR" order on file somewhere... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

As we used to say at one of my medical jobs: "Etilology suspect of neurological origins."<br /><br /><b>It's all in his head.</b> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[claywoman]

Now, now...the man is obviously on medication and has stopped taking it, we should, out of the goodness of our hearts, help him decide to start taking it again...or go along with his psychotic ramblings about snakes on Mars....

 

[5stone10]

I prefer the later !

 

[claywoman]

ahhhhh...you like talking about hallucinations?

 

[yevaud]

As to his ideas: I believe it was Wolfgang Pauli who once read something another scientist had written. It was horribly incorrect. And Pauli said, "It's not even <b>WRONG.</b>" <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[claywoman]

Well I've seen some strange stuff, but usually when I've drunk too much...and the shadows in my room become monsters. I have to admit, I've never seen a snake on another planet though....

 

[yevaud]

Don't thank me, thank Pauli. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

An story of a conversation between Lady Aster and Winston Churchill, who loathed each other.<br /><br />Lady Aster, holding up a cup of tea: "Winston. If I were your wife, I'd put cyanide in your tea."<br /><br />Churchill, raising his cup in return: "Madam. If you were my wife, I'd drink it." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[extrasense]

She probably misspoke. She was talking about snake poison.<br />

 

[claywoman]

Extrasense, I'm getting the feeling you like snakes? Do you own any?

 

[5stone10]

<font color="yellow">...you like snakes</font><br /><br />Clay - you may want to be careful how you phrase that !!!

 

[claywoman]

What???? I was just asking...can't a girl ask a simple question? Inquirering minds want to know....<br /><br />(Ain't I a little devil?)