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jcdenton · Aug 27, 2004

Try the Mission and Launches Board as well... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

reedyreed · Aug 27, 2004

Why do our children and some adults dress up like Darth Vader or Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk when they could be living the dream of Apollo and trying on NASA spacesuits with a real shot at the moon! Let's use our imaginations to fund and support science fact rather then making a few people rich with make believe fantasies.

odysseus145 · Aug 27, 2004

I completely agree. With a renewed public interest in space exploration, there's no telling how much can be done. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

k24anson · Aug 28, 2004

Sorry reedyreed, the moon project should bite the dust, as far as I'm concerned. Think BIG(ger)! The next century of time and resources for the Western democracies should be spent towards making the planet Mars habitable, and then to declare the entire planet as our own. And to literally change the world in doing so. BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE, and it is about time the rest of the world got it through their thick heads! The moon projects I've heard about are small potatoes compared to all that can be realized by focusing on Mars. Think about it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Stay focused. Go slow. Keep it simple. </div>

nacnud · Aug 28, 2004

BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE Yeah and my dad is better than your dad! Don't be so childish in your views.

k24anson · Aug 28, 2004

Sorry reedyreed, the moon project should bite the dust, as far as I'm concerned. Think BIG(ger)! The next century of time and resources for the Western democracies should be spent towards making the planet Mars habitable, and then to declare the entire planet as our own. And to literally change the world in doing so. BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE, and it is about time the rest of the world got it through their thick heads! The moon projects I've heard about are small potatoes compared to all that can be realized by focusing on Mars. Think about it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Stay focused. Go slow. Keep it simple. </div>

k24anson · Aug 28, 2004

Sorry reedyreed, the moon project should bite the dust, as far as I'm concerned. Think BIG(ger)! The next century of time and resources for the Western democracies should be spent towards making the planet Mars habitable, and then to declare the entire planet as our own. And to literally change the world in doing so. BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE, and it is about time the rest of the world got it through their thick heads! The moon projects I've heard about are small potatoes compared to all that can be realized by focusing on Mars. Think about it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Stay focused. Go slow. Keep it simple. </div>

k24anson · Aug 28, 2004

Thanks for the enlightenment Mr. Ceaser Augustus, Genghis, Napoleon, Lord, Baron von, Herr Pion of Society. Go counsel some of those kindergarteners about how to be nice, and stay away from the big boys. Did you hear the door slamming behind you Mr. Atomic? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Stay focused. Go slow. Keep it simple. </div>

mooware · Aug 30, 2004

"Corporate America has little in the way of vision and new ideas.........They tend to jump on the bandwagon and bleed it dry." Such is the nature of Corporate. "We were on that path during the decade of the sixties when we were living the challenges of the NEW FRONTIER. When Bobby Kennedy was murdered our dream seemed to die" The reason we went to the Moon was not for the betterment of humanity. It was part of the Cold War. To beat the Russians. "Why must we wait for a politician to give us direction" People elect thier politicians, In order to get re-elected they steer away from what the people have no interest in, or feel is far flung. " I still believe that their are visitors from other planets already on our moon and our Earth working with us and among us.....teaching us and leading us to once again reach for the stars. " Belief in a thing does not make it true. There is no evidence of this statement. "We must first get past this Corporate Greed " I wouldn't hold your breath waiting to get past this. I share your enthusiasm with getting to space. It will happen, but it's not going to happen tomorrow.

SteveMick · Aug 31, 2004

i had the priveledge of speaking breifly with Buzz Aldrin at the Moon to Mars meeting in Atlanta and asked him about the cyclers after mentioning my support for solar thermal rockets. He said something to the effect that it was you thermal guys who want a faster direct trip to Mars that have sidelined that idea. Sadly, I didn't get a chance to tell him that I see thermal options as a great way to power the "sprint" vehicles that would rendevous with the cyclers. As for the Moon, although I wholeheartedly agree that asteroid mining is the way to go, a terraforming scheme for Mars could utilize Lunar resources. Solar sail like mirrors made from lunar aluminum could be launched from the lunar surface and solar sail their way to Mars polar orbit. In 10-20yrs. mirrors that could more than double Mar's insolation could be in place. If during that time a full scientific survey of Mars could be completed, then the mirrors could be aimed to reflect sunlight onto the surface. The resulting massive floods and outgassing should make for quite a show via cameras left on the surface. Mars would become warm and wet and only need to be seeded with life. In round figures the mirrors would need an agregate area approx. equal to 12 million sq. mi. A reasonable guess for their mass of 100,000 lb.m/mi.^2 would mean that 600 million tons of aluminum would have to be produced with perhaps 10 times that much lunar soil needing to be processed. An operation capable of doing this in 20 yrs. would need to process about 35000 tons per hour of soil on average. Steve

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

reedyreed · Sep 2, 2004

Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race To one and all, to large and small Welcome, to the pioneers of a new space and time Welcome, to this story of reality and rhyme The reality began on a late sixties date It was here that we sat, it is here that we wait On a pad by the sea... In a space, in a place called Cape Kennedy Atop the mighty Saturn Five To the moon and back, the pioneers survived Waiting and counting, hoping to see A new Space Inn, a place to be Welcome, the Inn Space Place I hear the station is new, I hear the people are true Hope to see it soon, you know, Tranquility Base, the moon! Houston, can you copy, can you hear? It's really lonely out in the blue Well, its not that blue when the sky turns black It's only a 3 day ride (and a free ride back) This story took place not so long ago Can you remember the story, can you recall the show? They called it Mercury, Gemini and Project Apollo They brought true a dream in a time of tomorrow But where did they go? Apollo 18, 19, and 20 We achieved our goal so they took our money... They took our money but not our suits They took our rover but not our boots We still have the rocks, we left behind our prints We still have the money, we still have the mints So Washington, please print some soon Please Mr. Politician, have you ever FELT the moon? Welcome, the Inn Space Place Welcome, the deep space race The deep space race is about to begin And we know in our hearts why we must win From Mars or the Moon, from Jupiter or Charon Wherever we land, hand in hand, woman and man..... There's a place for us There is a place... SOMEWHERE out there in space!!! Daniel Wingsand Reed Prologue to my book: Emotion: The Treasure of Love Copyright 1996

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