Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax

[CalliArcale]

<p>The Bad Astronomer has a post up about this upcoming Mythbusters episode, and it's got a trailer!&nbsp; Sweet!&nbsp; It'll air on August 27.</p><p>Basically, the Mythbusters will be testing a few of the claims of moon hoax proponents to see if they make any sense.&nbsp; Listed in the trailer are flapping flag and non-parallel shadows, but reference is also made to non-absolute-blackness of shadows.&nbsp; From previous BA posts, I know they'll also look at the idea that the moon landing scenes were shot in slow-mo to give the impression of lower gravity.</p><p>It's a neat trailer.&nbsp; Might even get no-moonies to tune in.&nbsp; ;-)</p><p>Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax, Part III </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[Smersh]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The Bad Astronomer has a post up about this upcoming Mythbusters episode, and it's got a trailer!&nbsp; Sweet!&nbsp; It'll air on August 27.Basically, the Mythbusters will be testing a few of the claims of moon hoax proponents to see if they make any sense.&nbsp; Listed in the trailer are flapping flag and non-parallel shadows, but reference is also made to non-absolute-blackness of shadows.&nbsp; From previous BA posts, I know they'll also look at the idea that the moon landing scenes were shot in slow-mo to give the impression of lower gravity.It's a neat trailer.&nbsp; Might even get no-moonies to tune in.&nbsp; ;-)Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax, Part III <br /><p> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>I hope the "no-moonies" do tune in Calli, but I have a feeling that even if they do, it won't make a shred of difference to what they believe (or what they want to believe.)</p><p>I hope I'm wrong of course. &nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1><p><font color="#800000"><em>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea."<br />Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."</em></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Website / forums </strong></font></p> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The Bad Astronomer has a post up about this upcoming Mythbusters episode, and it's got a trailer!&nbsp; Sweet!&nbsp; It'll air on August 27.Basically, the Mythbusters will be testing a few of the claims of moon hoax proponents to see if they make any sense.&nbsp; Listed in the trailer are flapping flag and non-parallel shadows, but reference is also made to non-absolute-blackness of shadows.&nbsp; From previous BA posts, I know they'll also look at the idea that the moon landing scenes were shot in slow-mo to give the impression of lower gravity.It's a neat trailer.&nbsp; Might even get no-moonies to tune in.&nbsp; ;-)Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax, Part III <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>Thanks for the heads up, Calli.&nbsp; I don't watch much TV so I would've have likely missed this.&nbsp; We all know what the results will be, but it'll be fun watching these two rip this hoax to shreds.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[Carrickagh]

<p>Darn!&nbsp;I was hoping it was about the Real Great Moon Hoax of 1835...</p><p>http://www.historybuff.com/library/refmoon.html</p><p>I remember reading that Sir John Herschel was amused by it all. But he later became annoyed when he repeatedly had to answer questions about it from many laymen as well as cranks. No record of him clocking anyione like good old Buzz...</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/1/4/c1e0c18a-14e7-4afc-9433-ae740227c474.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

I'll be sure to tune into this as well!&nbsp; Thanks! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Darn!&nbsp;I was hoping it was about the Real Great Moon Hoax of 1835...http://www.historybuff.com/library/refmoon.htmlI remember reading that Sir John Herschel was amused by it all. But he later became annoyed when he repeatedly had to answer questions about it from many laymen as well as cranks. No record of him clocking anyione like good old Buzz... Posted by Carrickagh</DIV></p><p>Thanks for that story!&nbsp; I had never read that before.&nbsp; It certainly sounds like some people have continued the tradition set down in 1835.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[Smersh]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Darn!&nbsp;I was hoping it was about the Real Great Moon Hoax of 1835...http://www.historybuff.com/library/refmoon.htmlI remember reading that Sir John Herschel was amused by it all. But he later became annoyed when he repeatedly had to answer questions about it from many laymen as well as cranks. No record of him clocking anyione like good old Buzz... <br /><p> Posted by Carrickagh</DIV></p><p>I noticed that story was from the Sun.&nbsp;<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" /></p><p><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <h1 style="margin:0pt;font-size:12px">----------------------------------------------------- </h1><p><font color="#800000"><em>Lady Nancy Astor: "Winston, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea."<br />Churchill: "Nancy, if you were my wife, I'd drink it."</em></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Website / forums </strong></font></p> </div>

 

[Carrickagh]

<p>Another Mythbusters promo vid...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9LgnTGOKb0</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The Bad Astronomer has a post up about this upcoming Mythbusters episode, and it's got a trailer!&nbsp; Sweet!&nbsp; It'll air on August 27.Basically, the Mythbusters will be testing a few of the claims of moon hoax proponents to see if they make any sense.&nbsp; Listed in the trailer are flapping flag and non-parallel shadows, but reference is also made to non-absolute-blackness of shadows.&nbsp; From previous BA posts, I know they'll also look at the idea that the moon landing scenes were shot in slow-mo to give the impression of lower gravity.It's a neat trailer.&nbsp; Might even get no-moonies to tune in.&nbsp; ;-)Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax, Part III <br />Posted by CalliArcale</DIV><br /><br />Really won't make much difference to me, depending on the tests they conduct. I've seen them do many good ones, and I've seen them make such egrarious errors in physics that I was left screaming at the screen. So I'll have to see what tests they actually do. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Really won't make much difference to me, depending on the tests they conduct. I've seen them do many good ones, and I've seen them make such egrarious errors in physics that I was left screaming at the screen. So I'll have to see what tests they actually do. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Very true.</p><p>I have seen them come up with tests that have nothing much to do with whatever it is they are investigating and I end up having to change channels until a different segment comes on that I can watch without grinding my teeth.</p><p>I still find the show enjoyable and it's certainly better than some of the knockoffs they've come up with.&nbsp; I really, really, really hope they take some cues from Phil Plait and others who have dissected this myth at length.&nbsp; The answers to some of the "hoax" questions can get very technical. </p><p>Interesting, BadAstronomy blog on Discover Magazine!&nbsp; http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/</p><p>A very cool looking model of the lunar lander!:</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/3/687c157c-8e95-4c2f-936b-9046c962bb4b.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Very true.I have seen them come up with tests that have nothing much to do with whatever it is they are investigating and I end up having to change channels until a different segment comes on that I can watch without grinding my teeth.I still find the show enjoyable and it's certainly better than some of the knockoffs they've come up with.&nbsp; I really, really, really hope they take some cues from Phil Plait and others who have dissected this myth at length.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>I expect they will; Phil Plait and Adam Savage actually know one another, having met at various skeptical conventions.</p><p>The Mythbusting tests are "common household equipment" types of experiments, and sometimes are clearly conducted for little more than the fun of doing so.&nbsp; (I find myself wondering what they will blow up in the moon hoax episodes, as ridiculous explosions are something of a hallmark of Mythbusters).&nbsp; They also sometimes get fairly seriously offtrack.&nbsp; But to their credit, if you have a problem with what they do and you point it out to them on their website, they may do a correction or even further investigation in a future episode.&nbsp; Mind you, whether they do so will depend on how much viewer interest there is and whether or not it would be worth building into a future episode.&nbsp; (They are making a TV show, after all.)</p><p>It looked from the trailers like they were going to try to duplicate various Apollo images and footage in a studio using the proposed techniques offered by the moon hoax proponents.&nbsp;&nbsp; In other words, they won't so much be trying to disprove the moon hoax thing as they will be trying to test the plausibility of some specific moon hoax claims. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I expect they will; Phil Plait and Adam Savage actually know one another, having met at various skeptical conventions.</DIV></p><p>Awesome.&nbsp; Then, I can rest easy knowing that Adam can go directly to Phil if he has any questions or desires someone to look over their design. </p><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But to their credit, if you have a problem with what they do and you point it out to them on their website, they may do a correction or even further investigation in a future episode.&nbsp; Mind you, whether they do so will depend on how much viewer interest there is and whether or not it would be worth building into a future episode.&nbsp; (They are making a TV show, after all.)It looked from the trailers like they were going to try to duplicate various Apollo images and footage in a studio using the proposed techniques offered by the moon hoax proponents.&nbsp;&nbsp; In other words, they won't so much be trying to disprove the moon hoax thing as they will be trying to test the plausibility of some specific moon hoax claims. Posted by CalliArcale</DIV><br /><br /> I've been a big fan of Mythbusters since their first season. I went there once, forgot what it was about though.&nbsp; Several posters had already mentioned it so I didn't post.&nbsp; They have a good crew following them that looks to keep them honest.&nbsp; There are also some things/corrections/suggestions that get so "esoteric" that the audience might not find it entertaining.&nbsp; I can understand them putting such corrections on the back burner.&nbsp; I'm like the audience; I find it entertaining and enjoy the show very much.&nbsp; If I want "esoteric" I'll watch NOVA or something.</p><p>However, I have very high expectations of this episode!&nbsp; It's not just entertainment, it's a public service announcment! </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />Like I said, I will judge it when I see what tests they do in the episode.</p><p>They've done some really crappy ones, as well as some good ones.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>