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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>All I ask is when you see this bright light 50 times brighter than any star moving in a wobbleing east west north pattern do you think all the people are lieing and putting there show in jeperdy or do you think they put the light in digitaly. <br />Posted by roboter</DIV><br /><br />Mee_mac I watched that episode#33 and after watching it closely it didn't amaze me as much as the first time I saw it but I would still love to go there myself just to see what thousands of people say they saw. I think the farm is located in Trout creek WA. I did see some real bright lights swerving towards the end of the program but its not enough to prove anything to me except it does raise my interest in seeing them for myself. Theres millions of camcorders out there and you would think if there was anything to see they would have recorded something without dispute by now,Ill just keep going out and looking and also waiting to see some real video.
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>All I ask is when you see this bright light 50 times brighter than any star moving in a wobbleing east west north pattern do you think all the people are lieing and putting there show in jeperdy or do you think they put the light in digitaly. <br />Posted by roboter</DIV><br /><br />Mee_mac I watched that episode#33 and after watching it closely it didn't amaze me as much as the first time I saw it but I would still love to go there myself just to see what thousands of people say they saw. I think the farm is located in Trout creek WA. I did see some real bright lights swerving towards the end of the program but its not enough to prove anything to me except it does raise my interest in seeing them for myself. Theres millions of camcorders out there and you would think if there was anything to see they would have recorded something without dispute by now,Ill just keep going out and looking and also waiting to see some real video.
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Mee_mac I watched that episode#33 and after watching it closely it didn't amaze me as much as the first time I saw it but I would still love to go there myself just to see what thousands of people say they saw. <br />Posted by <strong>roboter</strong></DIV><br /><br />First I agree with you about the going there. It's beautiful country even without any UFO's or the like.&nbsp; I watched the episode in question and it was pretty much as I feared.&nbsp; Nothing they captured and showed on video looked any different from the many satellites and meteors I've seen.&nbsp; The one time they thought they saw something moving, then stop and then change direction .... they didn't show it on the show.&nbsp; They showed everyones faces going "ooh" and "aaah" but didn't bother to keep the sky framed.&nbsp; </p><p>They note that the "NASA database" didn't show any satellites over them at that time.&nbsp; Turns out this wasn't true and you can check for yourself if you want (you know the location, insert 8/13-14/2008 for the dates).&nbsp; But you don't have to, you can view the video made by the Above Top Secret guys who where also there at the same time as the PRS team.&nbsp; It and a long discussion of what they saw can be found here.</p><p>Then there was the false drama.&nbsp; The something in the woods. They go chase this unseen it.&nbsp; The find a "den".&nbsp; They don't go back in the daylight.&nbsp; What?? &nbsp;Imagine a "den" or animal in the WA woods. Who'd a thunk it. Then 2 females walking down the road hear "something moving" and get "scared". They pan their spotlight down towards the noise ("splashing around") and ... what appears to me to be a rock in the river ... they then ask "what's that ?" and [cue dramatic music] "get your knife out".&nbsp; After the commercial they come back to say (what was obvious to me) "oh, it's just water".&nbsp; Duh.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>So I was underwhelmed to say the least.&nbsp; I give them some credit for recognizing, on tape, a plane and&nbsp;a meteor (Perseids peaking about then) instead of playing them up. </p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Mee_mac I watched that episode#33 and after watching it closely it didn't amaze me as much as the first time I saw it but I would still love to go there myself just to see what thousands of people say they saw. <br />Posted by <strong>roboter</strong></DIV><br /><br />First I agree with you about the going there. It's beautiful country even without any UFO's or the like.&nbsp; I watched the episode in question and it was pretty much as I feared.&nbsp; Nothing they captured and showed on video looked any different from the many satellites and meteors I've seen.&nbsp; The one time they thought they saw something moving, then stop and then change direction .... they didn't show it on the show.&nbsp; They showed everyones faces going "ooh" and "aaah" but didn't bother to keep the sky framed.&nbsp; </p><p>They note that the "NASA database" didn't show any satellites over them at that time.&nbsp; Turns out this wasn't true and you can check for yourself if you want (you know the location, insert 8/13-14/2008 for the dates).&nbsp; But you don't have to, you can view the video made by the Above Top Secret guys who where also there at the same time as the PRS team.&nbsp; It and a long discussion of what they saw can be found here.</p><p>Then there was the false drama.&nbsp; The something in the woods. They go chase this unseen it.&nbsp; The find a "den".&nbsp; They don't go back in the daylight.&nbsp; What?? &nbsp;Imagine a "den" or animal in the WA woods. Who'd a thunk it. Then 2 females walking down the road hear "something moving" and get "scared". They pan their spotlight down towards the noise ("splashing around") and ... what appears to me to be a rock in the river ... they then ask "what's that ?" and [cue dramatic music] "get your knife out".&nbsp; After the commercial they come back to say (what was obvious to me) "oh, it's just water".&nbsp; Duh.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>So I was underwhelmed to say the least.&nbsp; I give them some credit for recognizing, on tape, a plane and&nbsp;a meteor (Perseids peaking about then) instead of playing them up. </p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Boy, some UFO researchers y'all are! <br />Posted by <strong>jim48</strong></DIV></p><p>You wanna see an UFO.&nbsp; I got ur UFO right here ...</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/5/f6843e5e-4023-4fdf-95ea-4fd62355f244.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Boy, some UFO researchers y'all are! <br />Posted by <strong>jim48</strong></DIV></p><p>You wanna see an UFO.&nbsp; I got ur UFO right here ...</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/5/f6843e5e-4023-4fdf-95ea-4fd62355f244.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>First I agree with you about the going there. It's beautiful country even without any UFO's or the like.&nbsp; I watched the episode in question and it was pretty much as I feared.&nbsp; Nothing they captured and showed on video looked any different from the many satellites and meteors I've seen.&nbsp; The one time the thought they saw something moving, then stop and then change direction .... they didn't show it on the show.&nbsp; They showed everyones faces going "ooh" and "aaah" but didn't bother to keep the sky framed.&nbsp; They note that the "NASA database" didn't show any satellites over them at that time.&nbsp; Turns out this wasn't true and you can check for yourself if you want (you know the location, insert 8/13-14/2008 for the dates).&nbsp; But you don't have to, you can view the video made by the Above Top Secret guys who where also there at the same time as the PRS team.&nbsp; It and a long discussion of what they saw can be found here.Then there was the false drama.&nbsp; The something in the woods. They go chase this unseen it.&nbsp; The find a "den".&nbsp; They don't go back in the daylight.&nbsp; What?? &nbsp;Imagine a "den" or animal in the WA woods. Who'd a thunk it. Then 2 females walking down the road hear "something moving" and get "scared". They pan their spotlight down towards the noise ("splashing around") and ... what appears to me to be a rock in the river ... they then ask "what's that ?" and [cue dramatic music] "get your knife out".&nbsp; After the commercial they come back to say (what was obvious to me) "oh, it's just water".&nbsp; Duh.&nbsp;&nbsp; So I was underwhelmed to say the least.&nbsp; I give them some credit for recognizing, on tape, a plane and&nbsp;a meteor (Perseids peaking about then) instead of playing them up. &nbsp; <br />Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV>I agree most of the program is for ratings,The flying man was bull but your right on going there even if its just for the scenery,they said thousands of people have been there,wheres the videos?<br />
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>First I agree with you about the going there. It's beautiful country even without any UFO's or the like.&nbsp; I watched the episode in question and it was pretty much as I feared.&nbsp; Nothing they captured and showed on video looked any different from the many satellites and meteors I've seen.&nbsp; The one time the thought they saw something moving, then stop and then change direction .... they didn't show it on the show.&nbsp; They showed everyones faces going "ooh" and "aaah" but didn't bother to keep the sky framed.&nbsp; They note that the "NASA database" didn't show any satellites over them at that time.&nbsp; Turns out this wasn't true and you can check for yourself if you want (you know the location, insert 8/13-14/2008 for the dates).&nbsp; But you don't have to, you can view the video made by the Above Top Secret guys who where also there at the same time as the PRS team.&nbsp; It and a long discussion of what they saw can be found here.Then there was the false drama.&nbsp; The something in the woods. They go chase this unseen it.&nbsp; The find a "den".&nbsp; They don't go back in the daylight.&nbsp; What?? &nbsp;Imagine a "den" or animal in the WA woods. Who'd a thunk it. Then 2 females walking down the road hear "something moving" and get "scared". They pan their spotlight down towards the noise ("splashing around") and ... what appears to me to be a rock in the river ... they then ask "what's that ?" and [cue dramatic music] "get your knife out".&nbsp; After the commercial they come back to say (what was obvious to me) "oh, it's just water".&nbsp; Duh.&nbsp;&nbsp; So I was underwhelmed to say the least.&nbsp; I give them some credit for recognizing, on tape, a plane and&nbsp;a meteor (Perseids peaking about then) instead of playing them up. &nbsp; <br />Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV>I agree most of the program is for ratings,The flying man was bull but your right on going there even if its just for the scenery,they said thousands of people have been there,wheres the videos?<br />
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Boy, some UFO researchers y'all are! <br />Posted by jim48</DIV></p><p>Nice to see you're as serious as ever Jimbo. <br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Boy, some UFO researchers y'all are! <br />Posted by jim48</DIV></p><p>Nice to see you're as serious as ever Jimbo. <br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I get off the couch, buddy. In fact I spend more time watching the sky at night than 99.999% of the people on earth. And my time is documented. And I've NEVER seen anything I could not eventually identify.That's what I consider real observations. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>The operative word is EVENTUALLY.&nbsp; </p><p>I've seen lots of UFO's.&nbsp; One turned out to be a golden&nbsp;eagle (wasn't sure at first if it as a golden or a bald eagle so it was initially unidentified).&nbsp; Another was a rock -- I identified it and got out of the way.&nbsp; Then there was a wind-blown leaf -- close inspection showed it to be maple.</p><p>There are effective means of prolonging the lack of identification and sometimes even in aiding the mind in perceiving objects in the sky, many perfectly legal if you aren't driving.</p><p>&nbsp;<img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:pObV_qA7ff413M:http://www.vinospritbolaget.com/images/jack-daniels.jpg" alt="See full size image" width="80" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;<img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:mnkH2uGiDV9wXM:http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jstanek/me519/hw6/data/jstanek.budweiser.bmp" alt="See full size image" width="80" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ZxO8bCb3aJWUHM:http://www.avenuevine.com/movabletype/archives/TanquerayRangpur-w.jpg" alt="See full size image" width="54" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And sometimes the flying saucers seem pretty appealing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/0/6b275ad2-d93c-4e29-a042-af0c9a575a63.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I get off the couch, buddy. In fact I spend more time watching the sky at night than 99.999% of the people on earth. And my time is documented. And I've NEVER seen anything I could not eventually identify.That's what I consider real observations. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>The operative word is EVENTUALLY.&nbsp; </p><p>I've seen lots of UFO's.&nbsp; One turned out to be a golden&nbsp;eagle (wasn't sure at first if it as a golden or a bald eagle so it was initially unidentified).&nbsp; Another was a rock -- I identified it and got out of the way.&nbsp; Then there was a wind-blown leaf -- close inspection showed it to be maple.</p><p>There are effective means of prolonging the lack of identification and sometimes even in aiding the mind in perceiving objects in the sky, many perfectly legal if you aren't driving.</p><p>&nbsp;<img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:pObV_qA7ff413M:http://www.vinospritbolaget.com/images/jack-daniels.jpg" alt="See full size image" width="80" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;<img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:mnkH2uGiDV9wXM:http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jstanek/me519/hw6/data/jstanek.budweiser.bmp" alt="See full size image" width="80" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img style="margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-right:0px;border:1px" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ZxO8bCb3aJWUHM:http://www.avenuevine.com/movabletype/archives/TanquerayRangpur-w.jpg" alt="See full size image" width="54" height="80" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And sometimes the flying saucers seem pretty appealing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/0/6b275ad2-d93c-4e29-a042-af0c9a575a63.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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I appreciate Mee_n_Mac telling me about ATS, Above Top Secret. Its a interesting website and even has experts who filmed at trout creek WA. at the same time Paranormal States team was out there. I would recomend anybody who's interested in UFO's just to get another insite into whats going on,if anything, to watch them on ATS. They have video and taped noises they can't describe and its worth 30 min. just to see a unbiased show taped at the ranch thats supposedly a major hotspot for all kinds of activity. Roboter
 
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I appreciate Mee_n_Mac telling me about ATS, Above Top Secret. Its a interesting website and even has experts who filmed at trout creek WA. at the same time Paranormal States team was out there. I would recomend anybody who's interested in UFO's just to get another insite into whats going on,if anything, to watch them on ATS. They have video and taped noises they can't describe and its worth 30 min. just to see a unbiased show taped at the ranch thats supposedly a major hotspot for all kinds of activity. Roboter
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And sometimes the flying saucers seem pretty appealing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by DrRocket</DIV><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/1/04290310-6782-4882-8113-0572fd4ad178.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And sometimes the flying saucers seem pretty appealing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by DrRocket</DIV><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/1/04290310-6782-4882-8113-0572fd4ad178.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi all, I have been just doing some research online for anything interesting related to the UFO&rsquo;s , like any reports, findings, sightings and anything related to them. This is nothing like my job, but just an interest in the unknown world that has created an eager inside me to know about them. Do you people have anything that would interest my search on them? <br />Posted by jeffhardy111</DIV><br /><br />getting back to the original op</p><p>http://www.ufoevidence.org/news/newstext.asp?id=368</p><p>this one espically of interest sinces its from a former US astronaut.....</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi all, I have been just doing some research online for anything interesting related to the UFO&rsquo;s , like any reports, findings, sightings and anything related to them. This is nothing like my job, but just an interest in the unknown world that has created an eager inside me to know about them. Do you people have anything that would interest my search on them? <br />Posted by jeffhardy111</DIV><br /><br />getting back to the original op</p><p>http://www.ufoevidence.org/news/newstext.asp?id=368</p><p>this one espically of interest sinces its from a former US astronaut.....</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>getting back to the original ophttp://www.ufoevidence.org/news/newstext.asp?id=368this one espically of interest sinces its from a former US astronaut..... <br />Posted by lildreamer</DIV><br /><br />But of course in this case it is "what he was told", not what he witnessed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>getting back to the original ophttp://www.ufoevidence.org/news/newstext.asp?id=368this one espically of interest sinces its from a former US astronaut..... <br />Posted by lildreamer</DIV><br /><br />But of course in this case it is "what he was told", not what he witnessed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But of course in this case it is "what he was told", not what he witnessed. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /><br />Maybe Dr. Mitchell was listening to Story Musgrave.&nbsp; I wonder how he got his name, Story? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But of course in this case it is "what he was told", not what he witnessed. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /><br />Maybe Dr. Mitchell was listening to Story Musgrave.&nbsp; I wonder how he got his name, Story? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Maybe Dr. Mitchell was listening to Story Musgrave.&nbsp; I wonder how he got his name, Story? <br />Posted by et_earth</DIV><br /><br />That is not true. Musgrave was never mentioned in the link.</p><p>It was reports that were told to Mitchell....nothing he or any other astronaut personally witnessed. So it's an anectodote, nothing more.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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