Phoenix Mars Lander.

[fractionofadot]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>OK, this is either a Martian landboat&nbsp;with a troop of Martians about to attack Phoenix&nbsp;or a piece of the spacecraft.You decide.From lg_347.jpg. <br /> Posted by Swampcat</DIV></p><p>Well spotted! </p><p>I'm at a loss to explain that, it's hard to gauge distance and size.&nbsp; </p><p>But we must err on the side of caution and turn the spacecrafts shields to maximum <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The Phoenix Mars Mission Gallery page must be overloaded. I hope somebody else is having better luck. <br /> Posted by Swampcat</DIV></p><p>It's hit and miss right now... tons of traffic i presume.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

<p>If that ain't a groundhog...<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" /></p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/7/b93f6a98-d4b2-4ba3-876a-805c3481ad1d.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>OK, this is either a Martian landboat&nbsp;with a troop of Martians about to attack Phoenix&nbsp;or a piece of the spacecraft.You decide.From lg_347.jpg. <br /> Posted by Swampcat</DIV></p><p>I'm not much for interpreting images, but could it be nothing more than a lighting artifact?&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm not much for interpreting images, but could it be nothing more than a lighting artifact?&nbsp; <br />Posted by derekmcd</DIV><br /><br />Ah, you're spoiling the fun <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />&nbsp;. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[aphh]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm not much for interpreting images, but could it be nothing more than a lighting artifact?&nbsp; <br /> Posted by derekmcd</DIV></p><p>It could be a bit of white ice exposed. Phoenix is, after all, resting on a bed of polar ice cap. </p>

 

[fractionofadot]

*note to self; have patience, stop colorizing images* <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[rybanis]

I'm trying to find news on when the next passover is going to be. Any clues? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm trying to find news on when the next passover is going to be. Any clues? <br />Posted by rybanis</DIV><br /><br />My timeline doesn't go past the midnight news briefing, but IIRC the passes were about every two hours. Andrew? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><img src="http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/md_382.jpg" alt="" width="500" /></p><p>incredible detail!!&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[3488]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">I'm trying to find news on when the next passover is going to be. Any clues? <br />Posted by rybanis</font></DIV></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>I'm not sure, but they are very frequent. There was word on the NASA TV broadcast, that a full 360 degree panorama will be available during the first sol, so it must be fairly frequent.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>Anyway, I'v had enough fun for one day, so goodnight all, well here it is 4:07 AM, just could not leave Phoenix until the first images were down. Proof she is OK.</strong></font></p><p><font size="2" color="#000000"><strong>Andrew Brown.<br /></strong></font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>incredible detail!!&nbsp; <br /> Posted by derekmcd</DIV></p><p>Wow! [edit:&nbsp; had same image before]</p><p><img src="http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/md_370.jpg" alt="" width="500" /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm not sure, but they are very frequent. There was word on the NASA TV broadcast, that a full 360 degree panorama will be available during the first sol, so it must be fairly frequent.Anyway, I'v had enough fun for one day, so goodnight all, well here it is 4:07 AM, just could not leave Phoenix until the first images were down. Proof she is OK.Andrew Brown. <br /> Posted by 3488</DIV></p><p>Get some well deserved rest, Andrew.&nbsp; Look forward to all your future insight.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[3488]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">My timeline doesn't go past the midnight news briefing, but IIRC the passes were about every two hours. Andrew? <br />Posted by Swampcat</font></DIV></p><p><strong><font size="2">Hi Swampcat, yes I think you are correct. About two hourly sounds correct.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">I wonder if the bright obect you found is the parachute, drawn out into a long shape on the surface, or as someone else said, exposed ice.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Anyway I am off to bed now.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">I WILL be back later, you can count on it. </font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Andrew Brown.</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

<p>Enjoy.</p><p>From the Surface Stereo Imager Right:</p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/0/ca98b299-317c-4673-b062-e5ed8fe062eb.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hi Swampcat, yes I think you are correct. About two hourly sounds correct.I wonder if the bright obect you found is the parachute, drawn out into a long shape on the surface, or as someone else said, exposed ice.Anyway I am off to bed now.I WILL be back later, you can count on it. Andrew Brown. <br />Posted by 3488</DIV><br /><br />Goodnight and get some sleep. I'm about the do the same, though at a civilized hour <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />&nbsp;. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

<p>Last one for the night I think.</p><p>Dust on the landing pads:</p><p><br /><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/12/766a6112-a654-46c7-bc6e-9c55697a0f13.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br />http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Forums/#</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<p>Thanks for all the images, Guys, I figured we would be able to rely on you to get the interesting stuff in here.&nbsp; The thing that strikes me immediately is the 'curvature' in each 'tile' making up the landscape.&nbsp; Even though it's relatively flat, there's still a lot more undulation in the surface than I was expecting.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>SK&nbsp; <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/1/6/11371ed5-c693-4ce1-a684-75a6959d7860.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[earth_bound_misfit]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> there's still a lot more undulation in the surface than I was expecting.&nbsp;SK&nbsp; <br /> Posted by SpaceKiwi</DIV></p><p>Yes, certainly looks like an erosion&nbsp; process has been taking place there. Question is, was it water or wind, or all the above. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

Just a reminder there is another press conference at 12am EST.&nbsp; Couple minutes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[fractionofadot]

they aren't speculating on what the white object is just yet as they were heavily compressed pictures <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[phaze]

<p>space.com reporter should've just asked "boxers or briefs?"&nbsp; it would've been about as informative!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

 

[derekmcd]

Just a few things I picked up from the press briefing... <br /><br />One guy was discussing the accuracy and used analogy of hitting on hole in one playing golf.&nbsp; Teeing off from Washington D.C. and hitting a 4 inch hole in Sydney, Australia 10,000 miles away.&nbsp; When he turned it over to the next guy, the next guy (sorry, forgot their names) said "you forgot to tell them the hole was moving."<br /><br />I got a pretty good laugh from that along with the rest of the press.<br /><br />They ended up down range from their target, not sure yet what happened without pure speculation.&nbsp; MRO will attempt imaging it over the next few days based on their best guesses and triangulate.<br /><br />Confirmed Meteorological mast has deployed.<br /><br />They showed some color images, but didn't say if they were false, nor could I find any on the net yet.<br /><br />Parachute deployed 6.5 seconds later than anticipated.&nbsp; Touchdown was 7 seconds behind.<br /><br />No dust on solar arrays or deck of the lander.<br /><br />No concern about the arm digging through the soil.&nbsp; Stated that only limit is solid ice... they can handle anything else.&nbsp; They do have a 'rasp' that shave the ice, though and can recover the shaving and bake it to analyze the vapor.<br /><br />A reporter asked about the white "thing" in the image.&nbsp; They said it was a polar bear.&nbsp; They said they really don't know, but didn't rule out it was the chute or heat shield.&nbsp; They said these images were low resolution images so they could get them out today.&nbsp; They will get much better resolutions in the coming days.<br /><br />They don't have an agenda quite yet, but looking at the available power source and how well it is working, they are guessing they will probably be able to cram more into their agenda than what they planned.<br /><br />Won't have a full 360 panorama, but guess maybe 120 degree in a one color image by tomorrow (mon.)... maybe full color 360 by tues.&nbsp; I didn't quite catch what they said.<br /><br />Ability to take 22 samples at&nbsp; 2 or 3 days per sample.&nbsp; That's what budgeted for their power.&nbsp; Probably won't start digging for a week.<br /><br />2pm EST daily briefings for the foreseeable future. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>

 

[fractionofadot]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>space.com reporter should've just asked "boxers or briefs?"&nbsp; it would've been about as informative!&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /> Posted by phaze</DIV></p><p>Yeah I was taken aback by that question </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[derekmcd]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yeah I was taken aback by that question <br /> Posted by fractionofadot</DIV></p><p>The question the SDC reported (I won't mention the name) asked was if they were living on Mars time since the craft has landed.&nbsp; Yeah, I was almost embarrassed by that question.&nbsp; I think they responded something like "of course... we have been for a while".&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div> </div><br /><div><span style="color:#0000ff" class="Apple-style-span">"If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing." - Homer Simpson</span></div> </div>