R:Empire State building space

[nec208]

<p>I'm talking about building a SSTO the size of the Empire State building. Big engines, thick walls, stronger than a battleship. Outside of Earth's atmosphere, wouldn't it be more efficient because everything would scale up, including the velocities. Like, say you have something like SS1, but a hundred times bigger. Drag notwithstanding, shoouldn't it be able to attain speeds a hundred times larger than the regular SS1?&nbsp;&nbsp; Just something I'm throwing around, please feel free to refute my argument!&nbsp;</p><p>_________________________________________________________________________________________________</p><p>&nbsp;<strong><font size="2">Power is the problem why we cannot build ships like star wars ,stargate so on.It would not get of the ground do to not <u>powerful enough</u>.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Ty to make ship like stars wars the size of car to take your cat in space would not work.SSTO is very big problem and scfi- like stars wars ,stargate and Empire State ships are very very very big SSTO .<u>And we cannot even make small SSTO</u>.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Look at any rocket the engine and fuel is <u>way bigger</u> than the mass going up in space.It takes 400+ punds of fuel for every 1 pund to go into space.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">The power is problem why&nbsp; Empire State ships&nbsp; like star wars and stargate do not work.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">1.not fuel efficient</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">2.crude engine ( lack of power)</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">3.propulsion&nbsp; problem.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">We are just larning how to get up in&nbsp;space and back.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Any of the above 3 fixed than may be in 100 years you may see&nbsp; scifi- more reality.</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[nec208]

<p>spelling not Empire State building space&nbsp;a space ship that looks like a Empire State building.</p><p><br />&nbsp;<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[spacefire]

<p>How about all the systems? Electronics, batteries, life support etc...</p><p>in a bigger ship, the relative weight would be less than in a smaller ship, and you could increase the payload ratio.</p><p>Also, and I'm not claiming I really know what I am talking about <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />&nbsp;, but maybe it is more efficient and cheaper to build structures with a better&nbsp;strength/weight ratio on a larger scale?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Moderators, if you could please tack this new thread to the end of my original thread, it would take some fo the confusion away as to what we are discussing.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[nec208]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>How about all the systems? Electronics, batteries, life support etc...in a bigger ship, the relative weight would be less than in a smaller ship, and you could increase the payload ratio.Also, and I'm not claiming I really know what I am talking about &nbsp;, but maybe it is more efficient and cheaper to build structures with a better&nbsp;strength/weight ratio on a larger scale?&nbsp;Moderators, if you could please tack this new thread to the end of my original thread, it would take some fo the confusion away as to what we are discussing. <br />Posted by spacefire</DIV></p><p><font size="2">There is no SSTO do to problems of 400 punds of fuel&nbsp;for every one pund to go up in space.The SSTO is a pipe dream like fusion power,anti-gravity ,wormholes&nbsp;or plasma guns.</font></p><p><font size="2">And if any SSTO does come out it will be very small and crude and no where like the schi-fi movies.Not to say it will cost more than multi stage rocket with a capsule that splash-down in the ocean.</font></p><p><font size="2">I don't see government giving money to some thing that cost more and more advance <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cry.gif" border="0" alt="Cry" title="Cry" />than some thing that is safer and less advance and cost less.The government can hardly fix potholes and build roads that alone give money to rocket research.</font></p><p><font size="2">The education and healthcare are in desperate need of cash not say infrastructure like EMS and fire.I don't see government&nbsp;giving money to space planes and SSTO when multi stage rocket with a capsule are safer and less advance and cost less.</font></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>