Wow! I was surfing tonight and found this website of the International Space Agency, really, no joke!<br /><br />Checked the U.S. Trademark Office and sure enough they are listed.<br /><br />Here is the website: https://www.isa-hq.com<br /><br />Wow! Did a search on google and found this as well.<br /><br />www.kcn.ru/tat_en/science/ans/journals/rasj_cnt/04_2_9.html<br /><br />Seems this group had its start right here at Big Red, that’s Cornell if you don't know.<br /><br />I am very excited to see such an endeavor, and hope they succeed. With such an Organization, we could be to Mars in 10 to 15 years, or less maybe.<br /><br />Great idea! Wonder why I have not seen anything about such an important effort here on space.com?<br /><br />Just wanted to share this, as I think it’s a great effort and should be supported.<br /><br />Eric,<br />Big Red Country
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looks like rick dobson`s efforts. he`s a problematic poster here & (as far as i know) www.marssociety.org forum. i`d stay away from him. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
quasar2,<br /><br />I see?<br /><br />So as an official spokes person for the Mars Society!<br /><br />Can you please explain to me why your organization is now in the business of distributing smear campaigns about people and organizations in these message boards?<br /><br />Is the Mars Society aware of the fact you are using their name, and making comments on their behalf?<br /><br />You say this dobson person is problematic!<br /><br />I have never seen or heard from this person, or this organization, on space.com?!<br /><br />I am not a political person by nature, but your comments, and the fact I have never seen or heard about this dobson person, or this organization which I mentioned in my original post, makes wonder why?, and if this is due to some type of political foul play?<br /><br />They seem to have been around for some time, the late 80's early 90's.<br /><br />The idea is sound, and warrants discussion and consideration!<br /><br />As a scientist, I would find it most repugnant, if this person, and this group, have some how been restricted or improperly banned from space.com, one of the main space discussion forums on the internet, because of some political foul play, or false complaints by single minded political pundits or zealots.<br /><br />I am also bothered by the fact you are telling people to stay away from this person?! Who are YOU to say such things?<br /><br />This makes me even more suspicious of your intentions and motives in these regards.<br /><br />Eric,<br />-----------<br />Apollo, Why Did We Stop! Dammed If I Know?
Eric<br />I applaud your efforts to organize an international Mars effort. <br />I recommend you start by getting the spyware off your website.<br />
Bwahahahahaha!<br /><br />LOL <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
if u don`t believe me, i can lookup dobon`s email adress, & you`ll see what i`m talking about. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
& there he is w/ the little guitar. now that took me all of 2 seconds to find him. see the pictures of the guys on the front? he`s the one in upper left. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Interesting!<br /><br />Hmm, Seems a MAJOR FRONT PAGE STORY on your so-called troublemaker is breaking as we speak!<br /><br />http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/14491_space.html<br /><br />I feel sorry for you folks, who hide in the dark like little weasels, and stab people in the back!<br /><br />Seems this dobson guy is up front, and more of a gentleman, than you baaaaad goats.<br /><br />I think space.com leadership will kick themselves in the behind, when they figure out they were hood winked by you folks! As it is my suspicion, that dobson and the isa group were wrongly censored off space.com.<br /><br />Just my educated guess!<br /><br />I think there is an old saying, that some of you folks may want to take heed of! It goes something like, what goes around, comes around, and in many cases 10 fold.<br /><br />If I were you folks, I would be looking for a real deep rat hole to hide in.<br /><br />Eric,<br />--------------<br />Apollo, Why Did We Stop! Dammed If I Know?
SDC ain`t here as some kinda sounding board for unbalanced individuals. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
---------> Oh yes it is! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <---------- <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>
I see?!<br /><br />Sooo, You mean of course like, for example:<br /><br />Robert Hutchings Goddard, The Crazy Rocket Man!<br /><br />The Wright Brothers, The Crazy Bird Men!<br /><br />Thomas Alva Edison, The Crazy Wizard!<br /><br />Henry Ford, The Crazy Horseless Carriage Guy!<br /><br />Nikola Tesla, That Crazy Electric Guy!<br /><br />Albert Einstein, The Inferior Race Guy!<br /><br />George Washington Carver, The Inferior Race Guy!<br /><br />Ida Henrietta Hyde, The Inferior Race Lady!<br /><br />Galileo Galilei, The Crazy Criminal & Trouble Maker!<br /><br />Benjamin Franklin, The Crazy Criminal & Trouble Maker!<br /><br />Leonardo da Vinci, The Crazy Criminal & Trouble Maker!<br /><br />Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, The Trouble Maker!<br /><br />Ludwig van Beethoven, The Low Class Nobody!<br /><br />Here is a link to a writer I think you folks will find to of interest, and writes well for your level of understanding.<br /><br />http://members.lycos.co.uk/mmwcforum/mmwcforum/joc/a/a1.html <br /><br />I think dobson the Crazy Trouble Maker will be remembered far after you goats and mindless robots and gossipers are gone!<br /><br />Just an educated guess!<br /><br />Eric,<br />---------------<br />Apollo, Why Did We Stop! Dammed If I Know?
yup, & free space has it`s moments too. & then there was the crash. so, some individuals may not be aware of SDC`s past. but some people are unforgettable. i made the mistake of trying a dialogue between a very wise & decent person over @ 1000 planets & Mr Dobson. this was before i was aware of his nature. some of us on there were debating an ISA, & coincidentally dobson had just started on here. i was eventually forgiven for it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Ah! Wacko! Hmm?<br /><br />I see, so since you have surely meet this man in person, and are not basing your comments on rumor, gossip, or purposeful lies!<br /><br />Can you please tell me what your meeting with this man was like, and where you met him?<br /><br />As far as his nature?<br /><br />I am sure after a person has been kicked in the gonads a few times by the lower classes of society, I am sure a person may be a little grumpy and on edge at times.<br /><br />As far as this organization being fake?<br /><br />It would seem a number of Attorneys are on staff or retained, and the organization has valid State and Federal registration as far back as 1990!<br /><br />They also seem to be registered with both the U.S. Trademark & Copyright offices!<br /><br />As far as some remarks I have seen here, I would think the nature of these comments would be liable for civil law suit for defamation of character?!<br /><br />As far as myself being a yes man??<br />I am no ones yes man!<br /><br />As far as knowing Mr. Dobson, I will now have to admit that I do in fact personally know Mr. Dobson.<br /><br />He is a most kind person and a very honorable, highly intelligent, and respectful Gentleman and Diplomat!<br /><br />I did make a post on Mr. Dobsons request as he advised me that he, and the International Space Agency were falsely censored and banned from space.com.<br /><br />I wanted to see firsthand what Mr. Dobson was referring too, so I made a post regarding recent events to test the waters.<br /><br />I am both appalled and angry at what I have seen here, and what has been falsely stated about Mr. Dobson and the International Space Agency.<br /><br />A number of other ISA Board Members & Advisors have been monitoring this post at my request as well.<br /><br />For the public record, I am Mr. Rick Berkshire, Attorney at Law, Berkshire Law Firm in Omaha, Nebraska. My name and Law Firm are listed in the yellow pages.<br /><br />I personally know Mr. Dobson, and a few of his other legal staf
Hmm?<br /><br />I see! Sooo...<br /><br />Coming from a person who uses the username of: crazyeddie! 
<br /><br />I will place your comments high on my list of things to remember!<br /><br />LOL! Poor Goats!
<br /><br />I will place your comments high on my list of things to remember!<br /><br />LOL! Poor Goats!dude, all the energy you`re putting into this could be used for good purposes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Like I said before!<br /><br />I only wonder if you folks would spout your propaganda, lies, and smear campaigns if people knew whom you were, and could see your face?<br /><br />It is obvious you’re very skilled in using words like wacko and such, which easily manipulates the weak of mind, and children.<br /><br />It is also obvious your are skilled in the art of deception and manipulating an unsophisticated and un-savvy public, who have little or no experience with those of your kind.<br /><br />I find it odd that a major news and information organization like Space News would allow their public information resources to be used and abused by the likes of you folks. Well I guess we all know who controls the Media anyway, as you folks, the communists, socialists, and far left tried to use the same techniques to defame and undermine Bush, and you failed. People are starting to wake up to Evil like you folks, and are starting to think for themselves more, and begin to be critical in their thinking. I only hope it is not to late?<br /><br />I have also noticed that many of you are Anti-American and Anti-Christian Zealots and have I.P. addresses in Canada and the U.K., and have basically hijacked Space.Com for your own purposes and agendas.<br /><br />Shame on Space.Com leadership, and Shame on the Space.Com members in America, for allowing these people, antagonists, and outsiders to take over your site, and control your opinions so easily.<br /><br />Not one person has made a critical reply to these folks and their lies, or have asked Why/How/Who?<br /><br />Like I said earlier, poor Sheep & Goats!<br /><br />It is sad that a major forum with major influence and impact in the Space Community is controlled and manipulated by such people, with little or no controls or even an intelligent response from the Space.Com membership.<br /><br />Forums like Space.Com, like the Media Giants that controls Space.Com, have been corrupted and over run by people who seek to manipulate and control
Crazy Eddie, Secret Society Goat & Agent Of Evil<br /><br />You are very typical of the standard Disinformation Specialists.<br /><br />You use mind manipulating words like UFO, WACKO, WOO WOOs, BOGUS! These words have great impact on simple, inexperienced, and uneducated minds, children, and a naive public.<br /><br />Never the less, are all fact less lies, untrue, and have nothing what so ever to do with the International Space Agency or Its Purpose, Goals, Efforts, or People!<br /><br />Furthermore, you, and those Evil Ones like you, hide in the shadows using fake identifications, multiple usernames, and are beyond public review. You are skilled at infiltrating venues of Public Mass Media, like Space.Com, to manipulate & alter public opinions and views, and attack and slander with impunity.<br /><br />If you are indeed an upstanding American citizen, we would like to see your name, picture, and resume published for all to see, as is all the Members of the ISA Leadership, for all the Public to see!<br /><br />You will not do this because, first and foremost, it is you who is the Real Wacko & Fake!<br /><br />Secondly, you are a Criminal and have spread Lies and Disinformation which has Wrongly Defamed Mr. Dobson, and the International Space Agency, and its People, and you know that you would be sued in a Court of Law, and charged with a number of Crimes.<br /><br />Thirdly, you are not even an American, but an Agitator from out side the U.S.A. abusing our Freedoms for your own hidden agendas and purposes.<br /><br />You, and those like you, are an ever-present Evil hiding behind Genuine American Freedoms to weave your Lies, Disinformation, Propaganda, and Smear Campaigns.<br /><br />Lastly, companies like Space.Com may hide behind legal mumbo-jumbo that they are not indeed responsible for the actions and disinformation of their posters, but they are in principle and in spirit supporting Evil people like you by their silence and condoning such malicious actions and behav
While Eric_apallo and crazyeddie are on opposite poles on many issues, I see little virtue in the things that either of you post on this thread. Let's try to be tactful polite, and open minded. Such vitrol suggest to me that you are both lying.<br /> Why not tell us why you think Dobson is on the right track, if you have some knowledge of the basic sciences? I don't do links, especially links alleged to have spyware. Lawyer boo hiss. Neil
eric/rick says: <font color="yellow">I see, so since you have surely meet this man in person, and are not basing your comments on rumor, gossip, or purposeful lies! </font><br /><br />No, we are basing our opinions on experience this this guy. <br /><br />eric/rick says: <font color="yellow">As far as knowing Mr. Dobson, I will now have to admit that I do in fact personally know Mr. Dobson. </font><br /><br />So you started off your first post as a new member with a lie. Really good start.<br /><br />eric/rick says: <font color="yellow">I did make a post on Mr. Dobsons request as he advised me that he, and the International Space Agency were falsely censored and banned from space.com. </font><br /><br />About a year ago, possibly longer, Rick launched a massive SPAM attack against Space.com. He posted the same long message on every forum within a few minutes, and within only minutes of signing up. That is SPAM. In addition, it included solicitations for funding for his supposed organization. That is also SPAM. I politely asked him to leave the message on one of the forums, and delete it from the rest of the forums. I informed him of the applicable sections of the Space.com Terms of Service.<br /><br />His reply, within hours, was to threaten lawsuits for libel against both myself and Space.com. My experience with this whacko predates even Space.com, where he had launched similar attacks against other science forums.<br /><br />eric/rick says: <font color="yellow">I wanted to see firsthand what Mr. Dobson was referring too, so I made a post regarding recent events to test the waters. </font><br /><br />You, like Rick Dobson (probably one and the same) did not respond to comments from members as if you were “testing the waters”, but rather in a clearly confrontational and belligerent manner. You reaped what you sowed.<br /><br />eric/rick says: <font color="yellow">I personally know Mr. Dobson, and a few of his other legal sta</font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p style="margin-top:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Our Solar System must be passing through a Non Sequitur area of space.</strong></font></p> </div>
It is interesting that you so freely and so often call other people nasty names and make multiple irrelevant vitriolic remarks about them, while claiming that others can be sued for saying much less, far less often.<br /><br />What is clear from your diatribe here is that you are attempting to goad SDC members into a flame war with your nasty namecalling. That in itself is a violation of the TOS of Space.com Uplink, and is grounds for warning or banning. The very fact that you are still allowed to post is a credit to the lenient attitude of Space.com administration. I recommend that you edit or remove all of the ad hominem attacks in your posts on this thread.<br /><br />It is also clear that you are attempting to goad SDC members into posting their real name on the open forum. There is a good reason why that is not often done, and you have just provided the perfect example. Your viscious attacks in these few posts leave little doubt that preventing you from aquiring personal information about members is prudent. There are simply too many irrational, vindictive predators out there.<br /><br />My conclusion, after reading the eric_apollo posts:<br /><br />At least one member of ISA is a mean, vindictive person, not the kind I or anyone I know would want to be associated with.<br /><br />If eric_apollo and rick dobson are indeed two separate people, then the ISA has two at least such members.<br /><br />The type of negative, aggressive, belligerent attack demonstrated by the eric_apollo poster is probably why the ISA is still only a couple of desperate people after 18 years.<br /><br />It appears that eric_apollo is going out of this way to get himself banned from Space.com, with multiple violations of the TOS. I presume the reason is so that he can self-righteously complain of unfair treatment. Again.<br /><br />One more comment. Considering your vitriolic comments about democracy and evil and Space.com and America, I certainly woudn't want you as my attorney.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p style="margin-top:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2" color="#ff0000"><strong>Our Solar System must be passing through a Non Sequitur area of space.</strong></font></p> </div>
Subject: User Name: Mental_Avenger (Communist) & Freinds<br /><br />To Whom It May Concern,<br /><br />The above person, user name Mental_Avenger has continued to purposely spread lies and disinformation about the International Space Agency and Mr. Rick Dobson.<br /><br />This person has taken a number of user names on Space.Com and on other Space Message Boards, to spread their lies and disinformation.<br /><br />This person has, and is, working either with, or on the behalf of, some unknown organization or group that has been conducting a focused smear and propaganda campaign now for a number of years against the International Space Agency and Mr. Rick Dobson.<br /><br />This person has been baiting people, and entering posts which the International Space Agency has made, with the "specific purpose" of slandering, causing trouble, and spreading lies & disinformation. And to specifically disrupt and derail these positive posts, and to chase people away. This persons malicious and vindictive actions have been constant and very threatening.<br /><br />We are asking that these slanderous and illegal acts be stopped, and that we obtain the personal information of this person for legal action for criminal defamation of character and slander, and to report this person to Law Enforcement for making terroristic threats against the Chairman & CEO of the International Space Agency, Mr. Rick Dobson. This person "Mental_Avenger" has been making a number of terroristic threats against the Chairman & CEO of the International Space Agency, Mr. Rick Dobson.<br /><br />The International Space Agency or Mr. Dobson has never done anything wrong on Space.Com, and has never been anything less than positive, or has presented anything other than uplifting and factual information to the Space.Com community and posting board.<br /><br />It is criminal to allow this person "Mental_Avenger" to defame, smear, and attack legitimate organizations and people with impunity. This is not a fre
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