UFOs 101: Hype, uproar, disinformation and mystery: 'Here we go again.'

I think the government has reached a point where it wants sightings to be reported for national security reasons, due to the advent of drones and other potential technological spying apparatus. The situation for the last few decades has been so skeptical of reports that the Russians could probably paint some midgets green and land them in the U.S. and anybody with an important position who saw them could be too afraid to report it, for fear of being fired and confined to a mental treatment facility. And of course those who are not so well reputed would be dismissed for whatever they report.

Meanwhile, responsible people like military and commercial pilots have been reporting both visual and instrument detections that have unexplained anomalies that might be caused by unfriendly powers using devices that our government is unaware of.

Thinking back on past technological developments, things like the SR-71 would seem to be too high and too fast until there was some information leaked that made it credible. Now, we seem to be on the cusp of hypersonic airplanes and already have hypersonic missiles. And, there is stealth technology that probably makes things visible to the naked eye invisible to instrumentation. And then there is all sorts of technological spoofing to confuse targeting systems, that intentionally makes anomalous detections in sensing systems. And there are unmanned vehicles that can pull extremely high G maneuvers compared to what human pilots can withstand - it just takes more robust frame design and maybe artificial intelligence for autonomous mission execution.

So, clearly, there is good reason to want to know what these reports are really about. But, because the sensing systems that are used have classified capabilities, this is not something that can be fully discussed in the open literature.

So, from the public's point of view, I suspect the UAP term is going to just join the terms "Flying saucer" and "UFO" in the lexicon of media tabloids and Hollywood screenwriters without much change in tone.

But, I hope our government learns a lot in the process, even if they can't tell us about it.
 
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Leonard > Thank You USAF/CIA for lying about UFOs / UAPs. Why? ‘It’s The National Security, Stupid.’ ET is interesting Q, study away, but The Physics is big weapons business. Last breakthrough = ‘atom bomb’ … next … easier micro WMD? ‘Disclosure’ still good? Has ‘next gen’ Manhattan Project ever ended? In the 1990s, the most valuable intellectual property in human history, came free, with a turkey sandwich lunch, Travelers Food and Books, Union, CT. In the basement, literally stuck between the covers of two old 1970s Playboys, an old Kurt Gödel diary, written in Gabelsberger script, detailing secret work with Albert Einstein on quantum gravity (13th notebook / copy?). USAF/CIA worst nightmare, Physics in the clear. Now destroyed, per old scientists dictate, all sleep well. Question for the world is how to disclose physics as unified global community or destroy one another. Not job for USAF/CIA. Can the ‘Scientific Community’ lead as a Global community? Or only subscriber war with one another in typically tribal fashion? As Einstein entreated, “For All or Nothing.”
 
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This is pretty bad and dismissive. I mean, as a fellow Historian who graduated from UC Santa Cruz, this pander's to pro-government censorship and complacency with unregulated space agencies. Let's cut to brass tacks; the real concern here isn't that some far away alien civilization is being hidden from us- if they wanted to talk to us, they'd have done it already.

The problem here is MJ-12, aka Operation Majestic - 12, a clandestine group intended on reverse engineering that had no oversight nor did it have to report to Congress or the executive branch. The government and its agencies continue to pretend this group is not real or that more specifically, there are no agencies with space programs that operate outside of the US governments jurisdiction, but then when congress asked if investigators looked into these things, the investigators responded by saying they'd have to be told to do so "from a higher power"- members of Congress literally were told they don't have the power to tell these investigators what to investigate, and the question of whether the President holds such "power" was not appropriately answered. Notice, when questions about UAP that would go in and out of the ocean were brought up, all of that conversation was censored and stated that it would only be touched upon in private session. They continue to censor the truth and expected the public to be complacent with such a poorly done investigation, thus, they failed the American public.

The reason these excuses are no longer acceptable to the American public is entirely due to the government and its agencies notoriously being untrustworthy and purposely malicious - case in point; MK ULTRA. We American's cannot forget this, or otherwise, our government WILL repeat its mistakes and subject its citizens to harm again. We cannot forgive our government for such misdeeds, and if our government isn't happy with that response or being labeled as such, then they can do better and be more open with its citizens. That is a fact. So thus we must be skeptical of government agencies and corporate media's dismissive misinformation, and we must continue to scrutinize the lack of transparency of our government and its agencies, regardless of slanders of "conspiracy theories" from those that aren't even bothered to document these things in the first place.
 
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The UFO sightings are still insignificant "disinformation, fake news" that has no significant government and life-changing, society consequences. They still are in the realm of tabloid entertainment, until there is a confirmed contact or an alien abduction. Then the UFO conspiracy theories might become sci-fi come true, and an issue of: First Contact, To Serve Man, Independence Day, V, etc.
 
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First and foremost: Why is the quote in the title different from the quote in the last line of the article? A simple mistake or a more "click" worthy title by making the quote seem more sardonic? Secondly, the history is not lost on most people that have been interested by the topic for some time. The history is lost on newly interested parties that are allowing the govt to tell them that this has only been a recent issue.
Unfortunately, I do have to agree that so many people will not be satisfied until THEIR truth is confirmed. Humans have an INSATIABLE desire for a binary answer when you break it down. Are UAP a craft? Yes/No....Are they Earthly? Yes/No....Are they from our Universe? Yes/No....Does the govt have crashed craft? Yes/No.....If people do notnhave a concrete binary answer, they will manifest their own truth and they will FIERCLY defend their own truth. To them, it is a truth.....they did research....they found like minded people to support their claims....they interpret the information towards their truth.....it is comforting for them to realize a binary answer.
A PERFECT example of this is Missing 411. David Paulides has written a number of books on the topic. He is by a far margin the expert on the topic and his answer *shoulder shrug* "I dunno?"....he legitimately does not even want to speculate on the matter and I respect him a great deal to be brave enough to say "I....dont....know". So, you have the leading expert not knowing what is happening, yet, I PROMISE you if you go to a comments section in his videos or on his twitter, the vast majority of comments are people saying: "pppffftttt, it is so simple....it is *insert whatever pragmatic answer you want here*". If you speak to these people, they have not read the books, they have not watch documentary pieces on it, they take a small amount of info, for a binary answer in their head, commit to it, defend it and/or move on.
IT IS OK TO NOT KNOW SOMETHING! Just gather more data until a more clear view comes into focus....it may take time....but be comfortable not knowing along the journey.
 
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First and foremost: Why is the quote in the title different from the quote in the last line of the article? A simple mistake or a more "click" worthy title by making the quote seem more sardonic? Secondly, the history is not lost on most people that have been interested by the topic for some time. The history is lost on newly interested parties that are allowing the govt to tell them that this has only been a recent issue.
Unfortunately, I do have to agree that so many people will not be satisfied until THEIR truth is confirmed. Humans have an INSATIABLE desire for a binary answer when you break it down. Are UAP a craft? Yes/No....Are they Earthly? Yes/No....Are they from our Universe? Yes/No....Does the govt have crashed craft? Yes/No.....If people do notnhave a concrete binary answer, they will manifest their own truth and they will FIERCLY defend their own truth. To them, it is a truth.....they did research....they found like minded people to support their claims....they interpret the information towards their truth.....it is comforting for them to realize a binary answer.
A PERFECT example of this is Missing 411. David Paulides has written a number of books on the topic. He is by a far margin the expert on the topic and his answer *shoulder shrug* "I dunno?"....he legitimately does not even want to speculate on the matter and I respect him a great deal to be brave enough to say "I....dont....know". So, you have the leading expert not knowing what is happening, yet, I PROMISE you if you go to a comments section in his videos or on his twitter, the vast majority of comments are people saying: "pppffftttt, it is so simple....it is *insert whatever pragmatic answer you want here*". If you speak to these people, they have not read the books, they have not watch documentary pieces on it, they take a small amount of info, for a binary answer in their head, commit to it, defend it and/or move on.
IT IS OK TO NOT KNOW SOMETHING! Just gather more data until a more clear view comes into focus....it may take time....but be comfortable not knowing along the journey.
This pretty much nails it. The bigger problem isn't so much "are they real" as it is "what tangible evidence exists, and why is it being kept secret after such a long period of time".
Now, on the outside, most of this just looks like tinfoil hat wearing conspiracies about aliens being real - but if you trace it to its roots, this isn't per say about aliens; it is about the reality that unbeknownst to everyone, including congress, there may exists groups or organizations within our own government, operating on Agency Contingency Plans such that people can't know they exist, cause then they may find out things about what they've been doing, or specifically, building, they may be concerned what they're using it for(ie; sheltering systems built in secret in case of nuclear attacks to house essential members, extensive spy satellites compromising civilians devices, drones and other autonomous devices with air/sea capabilities that could preemptively attack a country leaving little trace, satellites that can attack and disable other nations satellites, etc). Most of these already exist, and have inadvertently become so obvious to the public that they forget that those things are run in a way that if our government doesn't collapse, the Contingency Government is still woven into the framework of our government such that it still has access and ability to hide what it's truly doing from the public.
Many agencies followed this skeleton frame work of government, such as the CIA and the NSA, well into the 70's until the Church Committee blew the lid on just a fraction of the things these agencies were doing without congressional oversight. If you paid close attention during the UAP congressional hearing, you realize that the topic of MJ-12 is brought up. As my comment above mentions with regards to MKULTRA, while it seems utterly ludicrous that Congress has to ask whether an agency or group within the government exists doing things without any oversight under the classification of national secrets, this isn't without precedent that the truth may be far more complex than what was previously known, and even more questionable, all answers were shuttered to backroom closed sessions.
The public has a right to know.
 
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The UFO sightings are still insignificant "disinformation, fake news" that has no significant government and life-changing, society consequences. They still are in the realm of tabloid entertainment, until there is a confirmed contact or an alien abduction. Then the UFO conspiracy theories might become sci-fi come true, and an issue of: First Contact, To Serve Man, Independence Day, V, etc.

While we don't know the nature or origin of UAP, there are a number of statements (compiled in the UAP Guide) from senior government officials around the world that imply they don't believe UAP have a conventional explanation, so it's ironic to say that someone who believes them is a conspiracy theorist. If you believe world governments and military are lying to mislead or cover up, by definition, you're the conspiracy theorist.

 

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