12" refractor?...<br /><br />Um, I don't think they go that big. <br /><br />If you're looking to buy a scope, buy a reflector (specifically a newtonian or dobsonian telescope).<br /><br />They're the biggest bang for your buck, as they are more portable, larger, and cheaper than refractors. And size does mean a lot in astronomy.<br /><br />The actual design advantages of a refractor over a reflector are minor, and best appreciated by people with lots of experience. I.e. a beginer won't notice the positives, and won't know how to deal with the negatives. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p align="center"><font color="#c0c0c0"><br /></font></p><p align="center"><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">--------</font></em></font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">----</font></em></font><font color="#666699">SaiphMOD@gmail.com </font><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">-------------------</font></em></font></p><p><font color="#999999"><em><font size="1">"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- </font></em></font><font size="1" color="#999999">The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>