Where Did The Big Bang Take Place?

[jeepmonkey]

Obviously, we don't know if the Big Bang actually happened, but is there any evidence on where we might have occured?<br /><br />Also, would there be any (energy, mass, etc.) at the place where the Big Bang occured, or would everything have been shot out across the universe?

 

[mooware]

It occurred everwhere at once.<br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[newtonian]

JeepMonkey - If you take the jeep to where the monkey is, you have found the spot!<br /><br />In harmony with mooware's post.<br /><br />Actually, it is hard to describe, as the center of our universe would be the location, but trying to see the big bang we would likely have to look in all directions, as we do when observing the CMBR (=cosmic microwave background radiation).<br /><br />If the big bang occurred 15 billion years ago at a location 15 billion light years plus one light day away, then we will see the big bang tonight!<br /><br />Assuming we initiallly left that location FTL ( faster than light).<br /><br />Will you be watching the sky tonight? Would you be looking for a point source, or all directions???<br /><br />If so, you are more likely going to see effects from sunspot 798 - as in aurora.

 

[rhodan]

We are still inside the Big Bang, so the Big Bang happened everywhere around us, and in a way, is still happening all around us. The whole Universe, all of its trillion galaxies, dark matter and vast almost empty spaces, was once all concentrated in a singularity, an infinitely small point. That singularity went pop and expanded into the known Universe.

 

[jeepmonkey]

Great replies.<br /><br />Maybe I should have posted my question a little differently.<br /><br />Do we have any idea where the singularity was when it "blew up"?

 

[fortytwo]

They don't really. This to me really hurts the theory.<br /><br />Scientists seem like bible thumpers getting questioned on the origin of God when the big bang theory is questioned.

 

[contracommando]

<b>Can we find the place where the Big Bang happened?</b><br /><br /><br />The Big Bang is often described as a tiny bit of matter, but that's an oversimplification. If the Big Bang occurred in a specific point in space, spewing galaxies in all directions, then we would expect our galaxy to be one of many galaxies sitting on an expanding shell of galaxies, with the center of that shell being the point of the "Bang." This, however, is not what we see, and not what the BB predicts. <br />If we were on a shell of galaxies, we would see many galaxies when we looked in directions along the shell, and few galaxies when we looked perpendicular to (up out of or down into) the shell. Moreover, distances and red shifts in such a scenario would depend on the direction we were looking. As we looked tangent to the shell, we would see many nearby galaxies with small red shifts. As we looked down into the shell, we would see more distant galaxies with higher red shifts. (Up out of the shell we would see only empty space.) This is not what we see. Galaxies, distant and nearby, are evenly distributed all around us. The number of galaxies and their red shifts are completely independent of which direction we look (we say that they are "homogeneous"), and that homogeneous distribution is also "isotropic," meaning that no matter where in the universe you were, you would see exactly the same average distribution of galaxies and red shifts. <br />No, that little point of matter that was the Big Bang was not a little point of stuff inside an empty universe. It was, in fact, the entire observable universe. There was no "outside" of that point into which it could explode. In fact, the Big bang was not an explosion at all; it was simply the very hot state of the early universe. Distances between objects were much shorter back then, but the universe was still homogeneous and isotropic. Wherever you were in the early universe, you would see a homogeneous, even, distribution of matter and energy arou

 

[alkalin]

In reality, anything is possible, as yet, since we do not know any ultimate rule it seems. In math, anything within the limits of equations occurs, usually, but sometimes not. So of course time and space is part matrix. Therefore, there is no causality and common sense. So follow the yellow brick matrix, er, I mean road.

 

[astroboy3k]

It happened at my bed room last night, when I was banging this hoe I met from some bar.

 

[Saiph]

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[newtonian]

ContraCommando - Good post.<br /><br />What we actually see fits a different model, the Biblical model of an expanding fine gauze:<br /><br />(Isaiah 40:22) . . .There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell. . .<br /><br />The actual observations, with amazing computer simulation enhancements, to show a stretching fine gauzelike appearance, with threads and filaments.<br /><br />Note that this illustration does not involve any shell or any preference in any direction - we are indeed expanding in all directions.<br /><br />Any point on the fabric of space would seem like the center, since all points expand from all other points, and more distant points expand faster.<br /><br />Unless bound, as in Job 38:31 - in which case expansion is successfully resisted, as in our local section of universe being bound, more or less, to the Great Attractor in the Virgo cluster.<br /><br />To really locate the big bang, one must have other reference points.<br /><br />Here I refer to one possible interpretation of:<br /><br />(1 Kings 8:27) . . .“But will God truly dwell upon the earth? Look! The heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens, themselves cannot contain you; how much less, then, this house that I have built. . .<br /><br />If our heaven or universe is but one of many within a much larger universe, or heaven of the heavens, then the big bang did indeed occur in a location withing that larger universe.<br /><br />The implication is that we are not expanding into nothing and this therefore leaves open the future possibility of interaction with other universes.<br /><br />Astronomers theorize about other universes and do consider the possibility our universe may one day interact with another universe - if it is not already doing so beyond our visibility horizon.<br />