Thats a very interesting article indeed. Many thanks for taking the trouble to find it and post it! It leads me to certain thoughts about this subject..<br /><br />We know that time dilation happens, and we have an equation to describe its effects in a simple, general way. But the equation is <i> only truly validated after the journey has ended. </i> It doesn't help us understand what is actually happening during the trip. Especially as relativistic doppler effect precludes us from knowing what is <i> actually </i> happening to the traveller.<br /><br />I think the problem with a lot of the theoretical examples of time dilation is that relativistic doppler effect complicates the "observation" element of the experiment. This business of "time dilation being symmetrical between two inertial objects" is only ever illustrated by things like observing flashing lights, or radio signals. What I mean here is that the nature of light itself gets in the way of our understanding. We know that the speed of light is always observed to be the same, irrelevent of your actual velocity. If you are travelling at 0.5c, photons do not overtake you looking like they are travelling at 0.5c too.. they still move at c, relative to you.<br /><br />If we violate the laws of thermodynamics in order to observe the experiment, would that change the effects we see? I mean, if the traveller and the resting observer could monitor each other in <i> real time, </i> using some form of instantaneous transmission for instance, what would they see? I haven't seen any illustrations of this example, but it might help us understand the problem.<br /><br />If, as I am wondering, our current theory is only relevent when doppler effected observations are made, maybe there is some form of quantam-like element at work here. If we think of time dilation as a wavefunction of possibilites, we can only know the result <i> when the observation is made </i>? But any observation is doppler effected and therefore not an observ <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>