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skyeagle409

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bigbrain---This is only a pretext because you can not confute my reasonings. <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />For someone who continues to get it all wrong, there is not much you can say about your reasoning skills.<br /><br />bigbrain---How does it work this "retrograde rocket burn"? <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />How does the space shuttle return to Earth? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
 
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telfrow

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<font color="yellow">How does it work this "retrograde rocket burn"? </font><br /><br />I'm not going to waste my time explaining it. See:<br /><br />http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov/HAS/cirr/ss/2/4.cfm<br /><br />www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/jplbasic/bsf_03.pdf<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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yevaud

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In a related note, I discover that "Earthsister" lives all of 25 miles away.<br /><br />If you read the news, and it says that there was a minor nuclear accident in Norwood, Massachusetts... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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bigbrain

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Thermionic wrote:<br />"I've been thinking it through, and I have determined that BigBrain is right. I'll try to give an explanation. <br /><br />In order to go to Moon or Mars, you must go very fast. <br />In order to avoid crashing when you arrive, you must slow down. <br />Slowing down requires brakes. <br />Brakes are devices that put pressure on wheel rims. Spaceships have no wheels. <br />Ergo, we could not have gone to Moon or Mars".<br /><br />Thank you again, thermionic. You are the first who says intelligent things.<br /><br />Hey, telfrow, perfect dude,<br />I have seen these sites:<br />http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov/HAS/cirr/ss/2/4.cfm <br />www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/jplbasic/bsf_03.pdf <br /><br />BUt they do not explain how a rocket can perform that "retrogade rocket burn".<br /><br />Perhaps does it turn of 180 degrees and burn?<br />How can it turn of 180 degrees?<br /><br />Explain, waste your time, super intelligent dude.<br /><br />I think nobody in this thread has understood the "retrogade rocket burn". <br /><br />Is this another brain-wave of NASA (New Animation Softwares Agency)?
 
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yevaud

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Gyroscopically turn the vehicle 180 degrees, or small attitude rockets to flip it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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telfrow

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<font color="yellow">Is this another brain-wave of NASA (New Animation Softwares Agency)?</font><br /><br />Yep...there's a reason I won't waste any of my time trying to explain it to you. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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skyeagle409

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bigbrain--- How can it turn of 180 degrees? <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />Are you serious? Perhaps, you are just here for the attention.<br />
 
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telfrow

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<font color="yellow">bigbrain--- How can it turn of 180 degrees?</font><br /><br />He can't be serious - that's one of the reasons I ignored it. He's just here to troll. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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telfrow

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<font color="yellow">Gyroscopically turn the vehicle 180 degrees, or small attitude rockets to flip it. </font><br /><br />I predict BB will contend this is impossible...<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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skyeagle409

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bigbrain---you think Nasa has the capacity to drive a probe to Mars and land it on its surface. <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />Why not? After all, cruise missiles fly their missions after launch with no further inputs from human hands and some fly mulitple missions as well.<br />
 
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skyeagle409

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telfrow---He's just here to troll<br /><br />telfrow,<br /><br />Ditto!
 
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yevaud

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Of course not. I predict some sort of answer such as, "how can a rocket turn 180 degrees when you can't see it, and you can't find Mars..." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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bigbrain

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Do not say stupid things.<br /><br />If you turned your rocket 180 degrees and burn to brake, you would put your rocket in the same condition of lunar module with the big difference due to high speed. <br />Your rocket would turn like a spinning top.
 
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yevaud

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Why do you think one vector has wildly different physical characteristics than another? Speaking of making no sense.<br /><br />If one vector of flight makes a rocket always "spin like a top," then any other vector would do precisely the same thing. And clearly it doesn't. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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bigbrain

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Hey, suoer dude,<br />You wrote:<br />"He can't be serious - that's one of the reasons I ignored it. He's just here to troll". <br /><br />I can be very serious, but I like to say intelligent things with a little humour.<br /><br />You instead use this pretext not to answer my questions, because you do not know anything<br />and then you do not confute my reasonings.
 
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telfrow

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Yevaud:<br /><br />You win yet <i>another</i> stuffed animal of your choice.<br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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telfrow

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<font color="yellow">You instead use this pretext not to answer my questions, because you do not know anything and then you do not confute my reasonings.</font><br /><br />If your "reasonings" made any sense, or had any basis in reality, I'd refute them. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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bigbrain

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You wrote:<br />"Why not? After all, cruise missiles fly their missions after launch with no further inputs from human hands and some fly mulitple missions as well". <br /><br />I would suggest you to repeat primary school because for you to turn on the gas and to land on the moon are the same thing.<br /><br />
 
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bigbrain

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You wrote:<br />"Why do you think one vector has wildly different physical characteristics than another? Speaking of making no sense. <br />If one vector of flight makes a rocket always "spin like a top," then any other vector would do precisely the same thing. And clearly it doesn't". <br /><br />Try to reason:<br />You can draw with a pen a vector that oppose to another and nothing happens. You can draw it red or green.<br /><br />If you were God in the universe, try to oppose with your hand to a rocket that comes against you at 30,000 kilometres per hour.<br /><br />It is very different, is not it?<br /><br /><br />
 
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skyeagle409

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bigbrain---You wrote: <br />"Why not? After all, cruise missiles fly their missions after launch with no further inputs from human hands and some fly mulitple missions as well". <br /><br />bigbrain----I would suggest you to repeat primary school because for you to turn on the gas and to land on the moon are the same thing. <br /><br />sky---LOL!!! Goes to show that your school left you in the mud-of-ignorance. <br /><br />The companies that build space probes also use their expertise in technology to build defense-related equipment as well and look what you had posted! You are a real comedian to say the least.<br /><br /><br />Tell me, are your really serious or are you normally that way?<br /><br />
 
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yevaud

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Try to reason: <br /><font color="yellow">You can draw with a pen a vector that oppose to another and nothing happens. You can draw it red or green. <br /><br />If you were God in the universe, try to oppose with your hand to a rocket that comes against you at 30,000 kilometres per hour. <br /><br />It is very different, is not it?</font><br /><br />That answer makes no sense. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
 
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skyeagle409

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bigbrrain----Your rocket would turn like a spinning top. <br /><br />bigbrain, <br /><br />We all heard it from you before and the facts continue to prove you wrong. Haven't you forgotten the Delta Clipper so soon? You are just making a laughing stock out of yourself for all to see.<br />
 
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telfrow

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http://www.pioneeraero.com/1-13_del_cli.htm<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>
 
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spacechump

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Now why didn't you comment on MY post bigbrain? Is it because your tiny mind couldn't understand it?<br /><br /><i>What is Delta Clipper</i><br /><br />You see? There is this big thing called Google <br /><br />Learn to use it you big brain you.... <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
 
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