Americans are not on Mars, never went to the moon too - 2

[bigbrain]

You wrote:<br />“Go outside tonight as soon as the stars become visible. Mark their position in the sky. Note the time. Wait 4 hours then look at their position again. Their position has changed. Magic!”<br /><br />Not at all magic. The earth turns around itself, therefore it seems that the stars move. <br /><br />You wrote:<br />“Get in a vehicle. Look outside the window and not the position of the stars. Travel in the vehicle, noting all turns or deviations from a straight line, for 3 hours at 60 kph and note the position of the stars. I bet you'll see that their position has changed. Even more magic!”<br /><br />Not at all magic. If you look at the stars behind you for example, they are not the same you see in front of you.<br /><br />You wrote:<br />“Get in a vehicle. Look outside the window and not the position of the stars. Travel in the vehicle, noting all turns or deviations from a straight line, for 3 hours at 60 kph and note the position of the stars. I bet you'll see that their position has changed. Even more magic!”<br /><br />Those who live near equator turn around terrestrial axis at about 1,500 kph. Only if they went in the opposite direction at 1,500 kph, they would see the stars in the same position, because the earth turns around itself.<br /><br />You wrote:<br />“Now that you know what happens when you turn and travel in relationship to the stars position and the time/velocity traveled, you can navigate using the stars. <br />If you can orient a craft in space so that the stars line up according to a predefined pattern, then you can know that craft's position in space. Using time honored calculations from Newton et al, you can then plot a course if you know the velocity you need and the amount of time needed at that velocity to get to another point in space. You can even make course corrections along the way by resighting your craft's position. Simple. We're talking about very short distances with very small allowances for error that are acceptable for interplan

 

[bigbrain]

You wrote:<br />"I've been thinking it through, and I have determined that BigBrain is right. I'll try to give an explanation. <br /><br />In order to go to Moon or Mars, you must go very fast. <br />In order to avoid crashing when you arrive, you must slow down. <br />Slowing down requires brakes. <br />Brakes are devices that put pressure on wheel rims. Spaceships have no wheels. <br />Ergo, we could not have gone to Moon or Mars". <br /><br />Thank you. Finally someone who agrees with me.<br />

 

[telfrow]

LMAO..<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />No clue... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Have you remained without words?<br /><br />

 

[telfrow]

It's getting pretty late over there in Europe, isn't it? <br /><br />What? Almost 11:00 pm....midnight? Isn't it past your bedtime? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Are you too European?

 

[telfrow]

No, BB, I'm not. <br /><br />And BTW, I don't think you are either... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[rubicondsrv]

Stop trying to fool us, we have seen you post in perfect english by accident so why keep trying to sound like a fool. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Do you not like my English or my reasonings?

 

[skyeagle409]

bigbrain,<br /><br />You have absolutely no clue as to what was presented to you.

 

[votefornimitz]

Now to completly but into a thread that i haven't posted on yet....First off, the parralanx (spelled correctly?) method of navigation uses stars, and that with clouds and the atmosphere between it, it makes complete sense for a starsgip to navigate via stars if a oceangoing vessel can, also mars is going in an almost circular orbit around the sun, so, probes can head mars off, so to speak. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[huey_pilot]

Get over it bigbrain, Americans went to the moon and landed probes on Mars.<br /><br />Oh, and I suppose that the Russian landings on Venus and the European landing on Titan were fake too? What do you have to say about these facts?

 

[luciusverus]

Yup.......... They're fake too........!!

 

[bigbrain]

You wrote:<br />"Get over it bigbrain, Americans went to the moon and landed probes on Mars. <br />Oh, and I suppose that the Russian landings on Venus and the European landing on Titan were fake too? What do you have to say about these facts?"<br /><br />This our world is a little sphere in the universe but with a lot of people who want to sell us a pup.<br /><br />There is for example plenty of idiots that try to convince us they have seen some UFO. <br /><br />Maybe in any galaxies there are other people, ok? <br />To come to us they ought to cover light years of distance, so they would have developed an incredible, dreadful technology, they would be enormously intelligent, much more than me.<br /><br />But what do they do when they arrive here?<br /><br />They tremble with fear and play hide-and-seek.<br /><br />Who are those idiots that think they can be afraid of us?

 

[telfrow]

And what, pray tell, does that barely understandable tirade have to do with the question he asked about the landings on Venus and Titan?<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

You wrote:<br />"...barely understandable tirade ..."<br /><br />Are you a silly person too?

 

[yevaud]

As we used to say in the Medical industry:<br /><br />"Etiology suspect of Neuralogic origins."<br /><br />It's all in his head. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Are you a silly person too?</font><br /><br />Translation: Am I an idiot...<br /><br />Am I a silly person? Yes...I even have my walk registered with the Ministry.<br /><br />http://guardian.curtin.edu.au/cga/art/tv.html<br /><br />So what does your post have to do with the question about Venus and Titan?<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Men are from Mars...<br /><br />Women are from Venus...<br /><br />Big Brain's from Titan. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Link moved to previous post.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Big Brain's from Titan. </font><br /><br />Well, he says he's from Europe (which is highly doubtful, IMHO)....but if he is, I think he lives here:<br /><br />http://www.troll-mountain.no/index.php?m=sider&m_action=vis&id=1<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

<br /><br />bigbrain---This our world is a little sphere in the universe but with a lot of people who want to sell us a pup. <br /><br />Sky---And, those who try to pass along a $3 bill in an effort to make us believe that we never went to Mars, Titan, Venus nor the moon. and that the Earth is flat.<br /><br />bigbrain----There is for example plenty of idiots that try to convince us they have seen some UFO. <br /><br />Sky---I saw one and so have my Air Force compatriots.<br />

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Sky---I saw one and so have my Air Force compatriots. </font><br /><br />He knows that Sky...he's trolling.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

telfrow,<br /><br />I wonder if the kid is still in high school.

 

[telfrow]

It's either that or he's one of our "regular" posters pulling our leg. I lean toward the second explanation. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>