Apollo Moon Hoax

[lampblack]

Lordy, the Apollo moon hoax people have always struck me as being a bit odd.<br /><br />The initial launch of the Saturn V rockets were viewed by thousands of people on site -- and by millions more on television. So, countless witnesses verify that those big-ass rockets sent <i>something</i> into space.<br /><br />The engineering tests of the lunar lander and the third-stage rocket that had to fire for insertion into lunar trajectory -- all witnessed by scores of people, and thoroughly documented. They verified that the equipment actually worked as advertised. Given the fact that it worked, what would be the point in using it for fakery?<br /><br />The landings of the Apollo capsules in the Pacific Ocean were witnessed by scores of people onboard the Navy vessels in the recovery fleet. Witnesses included numerous members of the news media. Thus, the hoax-mongers are proposing that the U.S. government went to the trouble of shooting the Apollo capsules into space -- and that the astronauts sat in low earth orbit while NASA faked the moon landings.<br /><br />While on the moon, the astronauts during four of the missions set up reflective mirrors that remain there to this day. Even now, astronomers are bouncing lasers off the things, accurately measuring the distance between the earth and moon. Here is a relevant link. How might they have gotten there -- if astronauts didn't put them there?<br /><br />Photographic evidence exists of the astronauts placing these "lunar retroreflectors" on the surface. The fact that land-based lasers can still get a reflection back provides empirical evidence that they are still there.<br /><br />It'd be easy to continue on this way for pages. If this were a criminal trial and NASA stood indicted on the charge of having actually sent men to the moon, there would be no option really but to convict. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[lampblack]

<font color="yellow">Ah, the flag again.</font><br /><br />Thanks for this point-by-point response to all of the hoax stuff. I'm not sure I'd be able to withstand the tedium of having to go through all of that.<br /><br />Regarding the flag: I am almost certain that I recall Walter Cronkite explaining that the American flag on the moon was crafted with wire woven into the frabric -- so that it would appear to be "flying" despite the lack of air.<br /><br />The stiffness of the wire ensured that it continued to "blow." <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[dragon04]

Once anyone uses an easily and obviously debunkable example as proof in the preponderance of their case, it invalidates the rest of their prosecution.<br /><br />If I were a "conspiracist", I'd stick to the very few things that yet defy explanation in the mundane.<br /><br />I'm not one to plant a diamond of truth underneath a mountain of dung. It devalues the diamond. The diamond's value stands on its own or does not. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[bonzelite]

if the moon shots were faked, then all of the lunar samples returned are bogus and all research data gleaned and analysed are faked. as well, back in 1969, no such special effect capabilities existed to stage and present the myriad lunar conditions. look at the most sophisticated films of the time, ie, 2001 Space Odyssey, and despite how awesome that looks even by today's CGI standards, is in no way --ever-- as comparable in realism to the video footage of the astronauts on the moon's surface. <br /><br />what i'm saying is that there was simply no possible way to simulate lunar conditions with the technology of cinema, certainly video, of the time. it simply didn't exist. the footage is real. even simulated lunar CGI effects today do not fully give you the actual lunar environent as filmed and taped in the 1960s and early 1970s. <br /><br />

 

[logicize]

At the very least, it is a new question.<br /><br />"What's so amazing about this pole? Incredibly, the astronauts were able to hammer this into the ground without ever getting near it.<br /><br />http://www.rense.com/general80/smoking.htm<br /><br />Who is Ted Twietmeyer you may ask.<br /><br />"Ted Twietmeyer is a brilliant author!"<br /><br />http://www.data4science.net/index.php?project=book

 

[origin]

Well the moon hoax crowd has convinced me. Convinced me that they're nuts...<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[brigandier]

I don't see any "zig-zag patterns". Those red lines look like they were arbitrarily drawn in

 

[bmaone23]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>At the very least, it is a new question. <br /><br />"What's so amazing about this pole? Incredibly, the astronauts were able to hammer this into the ground without ever getting near it. <br /><br />http://www.rense.com/general80/smoking.htm <br /><br />Who is Ted Twietmeyer you may ask. <br /><br />"Ted Twietmeyer is a brilliant author!" <br /><br />http://www.data4science.net/index.php?project=book <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote> "<br /><br /><br />Disreguard the fact that the visible footprint is closer than arms length away from the post and just ALLOW the conspiracy to be true ....OH YEAH, and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, he is the president of the FLAT EARTH SOCIETY

 

[lsbd]

never ceases to amaze me that these "woo-woo" guys continually trot out "proof" of their conspiracy that does nothing except make them look more and more ********.<br /><br /><br />although...i guess it is possible that all the apollo astronauts had T-Rex arms, in which case the conspiracy must be true. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[logicize]

Note the position of the astronauts arms. See the similarities to the T-Rex now. Also, how small the astronaut appears relative to the petrified salamander.<br /><br />Astronaut with Salamander

 

[abq_farside]

Salamander?? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em><font size="1" color="#000080">Don't let who you are keep you from becoming who you want to be!</font></em></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

Apparently, you are all blind to the truth!<br /><br />That is no rock! Obviously, it is the ancient fossilized skull of a dinosaur! I have proof! Look at my illustration and you can clearly see the outline of the dinosaur's skull!<br /><br />NASA COVERS UP DINO SKULL ZOMGZ! <br /><br />It's a NASA coverup I tell ya!<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

You owe me a new keyboard <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

Well, I shouldn't be doing this but my elite cyber spies have managed to capture an elusive SDC Moderator Keyboard. Here ya go!<br /><br />SDC Moderator Control Board - EYES ONLY! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[weeman]

Here's a better one:<br /><br />http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2001/04/088-bluescreen/ctrlaltdel.jpg<br /><br />I laughed for about a full minute when I saw this <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000">Techies: We do it in the dark. </font></strong></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>"Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.</strong><strong>" -Albert Einstein </strong></font></p> </div>

 

[vogon13]

Your picture is a hoax.<br /><br />I have it on good authority the perma ban button is red.<br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000"><strong>TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#339966"><strong>So many people, so few recipes !!</strong></font></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>Let's clean up this stinkhole !!</strong></font> </p> </div>

 

[dragon04]

And if you will note, another important <b>lie</b> has been exposed in the image of the Dinosaur skull.<br /><br />There is conclusive, photographic evidence that the Cow clearly did <b>not</b> jump <b>over</b> the Moon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!".</em> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

But did the fork and spoon...uhhh....make a spork? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[CalliArcale]

Please; this is a family board!<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

What is the point of this post?<br /><br />The intention is to port all current data over to the new BB software.<br /><br />Besides, I assure you, like tadpoles rising from the mud, so shall the apollo hoax BS rise again no matter what. <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[lampblack]

Right... you shouldn't believe in those alleged trans-Atlantic flights, either. They're a fraud perpetrated by profit-seeking airlines.<br /><br />You only see the flights take off. But do you <i>really</i> believe that an aircraft loaded down with several hundred people could fly all the way across an ocean?<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[qso1]

Especially at 35 or 40,000 feet. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[kerberus]

How could there be Moon landings? It has already been conclusively proven that the Moon is only a projection beamed up from the Nevada desert. <br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[lampblack]

Yeah... sort of like the Bat Signal. I thought <i>every</i>one knew that. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#0000ff"><strong>Just tell the truth and let the chips fall...</strong></font> </div>

 

[billslugg]

I have a 9 year old nephew who was mute until he suddenly started talking one day at age 3-1/2. The first words out of his mouth were : Hey, Bill what is that thing up in the sky? I have always wondered about that." It was the Moon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p> </div>