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MeteorWayne

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<p>Here's a story with some pictures of the fragments; there's more than one, hit next in the photo block.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/28/AR2008112801930.html</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">Here's a story with some pictures of the fragments; there's more than one, hit next in the photo block.&nbsp;<font color="#000080">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/28/AR2008112801930.html </font><br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</font></DIV></p><p><strong><font size="2">Hi Wayne,&nbsp;</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Fascinating stuff.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">I have been following this story, though had not posted anything as had nothing sensible to say. But now I think I do.<br /> </font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">So looks likely that it's from a type C asteroid. Tend to orbit the Sun in the outer part of the asteroid belt & many of Jupiter's outlier moons (the outermost retrograde family, including Pasiphae, Sinope, Ananke, etc) also appear to share the same basic spectral traits as do the Mars moons Phobos & Deimos.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Some main belt type Cs do come closer in like the 66 x 48 x 46 KM wide 253 Mathilde, image below</font></strong>.<br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/9/8380539b-a966-4f7b-b924-ae48ec305d9b.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p><p><br /><strong><font size="2">Perhaps this meteorite may have come from a similar sort of asteroid? Also are some type Cs thought to orginate from extinct comets, where the ices have been sublimated, through many perihelia possibly leaving behind a rocky interior, perhaps like asteroid 3200 Phaethon?<br /> </font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">I can certainly imagine that these fragments will be studied for years to come. &nbsp;</font></strong></p><p><font size="2"><strong>Andrew Brown.&nbsp;</strong></font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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<p>It's almost like from a movie.</p><p>First the video of the meteor with incredible brightness, then the researches (including a young hot woman?) finding the remains on a frozen pond (minus the flesh eating bacteria).</p><p>Is this thing real or is it some sort of viral marketing strategy?&nbsp; </p>
 
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<p>Here is a tmporary website witha number of pictites of some of the recovered meteorites:</p><p>http://skyriver.ca/astro/bruce/meteorite.htm</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Here is a temporary website with a number of pictures of some of the recovered meteorites : http://skyriver.ca/astro/bruce/meteorite.htm <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p>I saw several beautiful ones last night, and a few a few nights ago.&nbsp; More than I normally see.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p>Oh wow!!!! I have been ignoring this thread for a couple days, good thing I saw that video! </p><p>That is very spectacular, I can't believe how bright it got! It lit up the sky like daytime!</p><p>Thanks for sharing the Youtube link, Centsworth. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000">Techies: We do it in the dark. </font></strong></p><p><font color="#0000ff"><strong>"Put your hand on a stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with that special girl for an hour and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.</strong><strong>" -Albert Einstein </strong></font></p> </div>
 
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I love stories like the one from the mailing list you posted, Wayne. I wish it had happened a bit further West and South, though... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I love stories like the one from the mailing list you posted, Wayne. I wish it had happened a bit further West and South, though... <br />Posted by rybanis</DIV><br /><br />Here's a followup that goes with the picture link I posted just above...</p><p>&nbsp; It's been an exciting and tiring couple of days since last I wrote my first <br />report Friday night from the Marsden Hotel in rural Saskatchewan. I'm now home <br />safe and sound after two expeditions into the field to hunt for meteorites. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Saturday morning Frank Florian and I continued our expedition as <br />representatives of the Telus World of Science - Edmonton. We prowled the area by <br />car, getting out to explore a few small ponds and examine various suspect rocks <br />by the side of the road and in the ditches. Eventually we approached the farm <br />where the original finds had been made. The farmer, Ian Mitchell, was hanging <br />out at the entrance restricting access to just Dr. Hildebrand and his research <br />crew from University of Calgary. He had met us the previous day during the media <br />scrums when Frank had interviewed him on camera for a planned exhibit at TWoSE's <br />Space Place gallery, and I had passed him an RASC IYA2009 calendar in <br />recognition of his good will towards the scientific community. Our own good will <br />was repaid immediately, as rather than turn us away Ian said he realized we were <br />serious in our pursuit, and directed us towards a remote group of beaver ponds <br />in a corner of his property well away from other searchers. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We headed in that direction, took a wrong turn and spent quite a little time <br />on dry land exploring a cart path and a stubble field, still without success. <br />There were many "meteor-wrongs" including terrestrial rocks, clods of dirt, <br />vegetative matter such as wood chips, and animal droppings. With all my <br />experience observing meteors I reassured Frank that we needed to persist, and <br />that our patience would be rewarded. I added hopefully, "We need a little one <br />for you, a little one for me, and a big one for the science centre!" Little did <br />I know that was exactly how things would unfold. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Eventually we scrambled and slid down a steep and slippery embankment into <br />the coulee where we located the beaver ponds. A preliminary scan turned up <br />nothing, but on our second trip to the biggest pond Frank found a meteorite roughly 2-3 cm in all dimensions embedded in the ice. A&nbsp; <br />few minutes later I found one of the same size -- what a thrill that was! A <br />little while later I came across a somewhat larger specimen maybe twice as large <br />that we had to chip free of the ice. Finally Frank found a very small meteorite <br />of about 1 cubic cm. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We were running out of light so scrambled back up the embankment with our <br />finds safely wrapped and stored. We returned to Ian Mitchell, who recorded our <br />finds for Dr. Hildebrand but as I had hoped, told us to keep the meteorites we <br />had found. We promised to bring them first to Dr. Chris Herd at the University <br />of Alberta (Frank delivered them today), and once Chris is done with them, to <br />use them for display purposes at the science centre. I am hopeful but not <br />assured of getting "my" first, smaller fragment to use in conjunction with <br />school and public talks. I expect I'll be speaking frequently of the Lone Rock <br />meteorites during IYA!<br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tired and happy from our successful expedition, Frank and I returned to Edmonton late Saturday, our meteorites, <br />images, and memories safely in tow. But at 6 the next morning, I was right back <br />on the road, this time accompanying Edmonton RASCals Alister Ling and Franklin <br />Loehde who were keen to do their own search. Even though I no longer had the <br />"in" of officially representing the science centre I thought my local knowledge <br />of the people and the area might be of use. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Alas, our ~six-hour search turned up nary a meteorite among the three of us. <br />We explored the train tracks and some small ponds on public land which may have <br />already been picked over or else they were outside the fall zone. As chance had <br />it at mid-day we encountered Les Johnson and family; the discoverers of the <br />large 13 kg meteorite had decided to return it to the land owner, Al Mitchell <br />(brother of Ian). Les took us to the exact point where he had discovered the <br />monster, and there was a ~10 cm deep indentation on the ground in which the <br />meteorite fit perfectly. Les said he had actually found it just beside the hole; it had hit and bounced out. As <br />it happened Al Mitchell was still in the area, as was Dr. Alan Hildebrand of U. <br />of C., Dr. Martin Beech of the University of Regina, and the big meteorite <br />itself.&nbsp; <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The door to private lands thus opened, Dr. Hildebrand could scarcely refuse <br />our offer to help, and for the rest of the day we traipsed through parts of the <br />A.Mitchell property, through grassland and cow pastures, areas of heavy brush <br />and frozen marshes where a broken ankle was a misstep away. Franklin took a <br />tumble at one point and I nearly fell a couple of times, but luckily no harm <br />done.&nbsp; We tried to focus particularly on frozen ponds where meteorites will not <br />survive the spring thaw. Our search was more exhausting than exhaustive ... I'm <br />sure it would take a coordinated team of a hundred people a week to properly <br />search the full extent of the fall area, some of which is completely <br />unsearchable. <br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; One last thing: on Friday when the press scrum took place, I scouted around the area with my trusty 10x50 binnies and spotted a second <br />small slough which when seen from a little further down the road had a very <br />likely black suspect projecting out of it. It was in a fenced area, so I <br />couldn't get close to it, but I told Ellen Milley (the grad student who made the <br />original find) about my preliminary observation, and she undertook to check it <br />out a.s.a.p. On Saturday the farmer confirmed that it had indeed been a <br />meteorite and an interesting specimen at that; and yesterday Dr. Hildebrand told <br />me it was an "oriented meteorite", which as he explained it doesn't tumble on <br />the way in and therefore develops a distinctive cone-shaped melt pattern. <br />Alister later told me the shape of the Apollo capsules (or was it the heat <br />shields? this was on the ride home) was designed in part by the aerodynamic <br />structures formed naturally by oriented meteorites. I keep telling people I'm a <br />meteoricist, not a meteoriticist, but I'm learning! Unfortunately, I never did <br />get to see this particular specimen ... yet. Maybe I can coax a picture from somebody on the research <br />team at some point. <br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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