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arobie

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What about all the tie fighter squadrans the death star carries? Surely those can take out the puny borg cube. They have anough of them.
 
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jcdenton

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I don't know about TIE fighters, they go down pretty easily.<br /><br />As you can tell I'm a Borg fanboy <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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arobie

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Yes but there are 600 Tie Fighter Squadrons on the Death Star. Any where between 6-12 fighters for squadron. Minimum of 3,600 fighters, maximum of 7,200 fighters. Thats alot of fighters. Even the minumum would be able to overwhelm a borg cube. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
 
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oscarb44

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TIE fighters would be useless against the Borg. They have no way to modulate the frequency of their weapons. The Borg would adapt to the effects of the TIE fighter's turbo lasers and it would be all over. Also, unless memory fails me, TIE fighters are not shielded. The Borg weapons would serious F*** them up. Final results.... Borg 3600 (7200 max) TIE fighters 0
 
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arobie

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Ok, so the Tie Fighters would be no good. How about all the weapons on the death start and other ships that are always with the Death Star.<br /><br /><b>Weapons</b><br />5,000 turbolaser batteries<br />5,000 heavy turbolaser batteries<br />2,500 laser cannons<br />2,500 ion cannons<br />768 tractor beam generators<br />One Superlaser<br /><br /><b>Other Craft</b><br />4 Capital Ships<br />3,600 Lambda-class assault shuttles<br />2,480 blast boats<br />1,860 drop ships<br />1,400 AT-ATs<br />1,400 AT-STs<br />178 Mobile Command Bases<br />1,420 repulsortanks<br />1,420 repulsorcraft<br />355 Floating Fortresses<br />4,843 Juggernauts <br />
 
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oscarb44

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Oh sure, the Empire could probably kick the &%$#@! out of a Borg cube, if they had it outnumbered a million to one. I still think a couple of rednecks with shotguns and a case of bud-lite could take em all on.
 
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nacnud

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There is a load of Borg cube vs death star comments over at Comic Book Universal Battles, but my favourite has got to be this one... <font color="yellow"> <br /><br /><br />Gotta go with the original, the one the only Death Star (tm). The Borgs will charge up their weapons to assimilate the Death Star and. . . nothing will happen! Just as the Ion Cannon blast is closing on them the Bong's last sight will be a mysterious message flashed across all screens and channels. It reads. . .<br /><br /> "Do you remember who does your special effects?" Signed, Industrial Light and Magic A subsidiary of Lucas Film Inc.<br /><br /> Cut to explosion, followed by shots of the Imperial Death Star crew celebrating their second victory ever. Sad really . . .<br /></font><br />
 
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drwayne

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My money is on Space Ghost!<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>
 
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arobie

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Oh yea, I forgot to add my sources. I got all that info from here after a quick google search.
 
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jcdenton

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I have doubts about the defensive capabilities of the Empire. If a rag-tag squadron of x-wings were able to penetrate all those defences, what's there to stop a borg cube from doing the same. Besides without any shielding, there's nothing preventing the Borg from beaming directly to the command center of the Death Star. It also took a huge squadron of starfleet vessels to destroy the borg cube in Star Trek: First Contact. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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arobie

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Actually, the Death Star does have shields. The only reason the X-wings could get through was because of their size. The Borg cube is MUCH bigger than an X-wing. The holes, fluctuancies in the shields are not big enough to allow a Borg Cube to pass.
 
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oscarb44

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But the holes in the DS shield are big enough to allow Borg drones to beam into the command center and assimilate the officers.
 
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a_lost_packet_

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Even in science-fiction, shields are not meant to take an unlimited amount of abuse. Modulation/smodulation. At some point, Borg shields would be overloaded just by sheer firepower. Considering the capabilities of the Death Star, it probably would not take very long.<br /><br />Borg may be able to penetrate defenses by beaming in. However, there certainly are alot of personel on-board the Death Star. Not to mention, internal defenses and such. It's why Luke's mission to rescue the princess was considered suicidal. Borg aren't indestructible though. I imagine it would be a hellish fight. But, the Empire would be victorious.<br /><br />It would be an interesting combat to see.<br /><br />Victory to the Empire! Well get those rebellious, traitorous, lying rebel scum.... and their little dog too! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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crossovermaniac

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<font color="yellow">However, there certainly are alot of personel on-board the Death Star.</font><br /><br />If the Borg does beam through the Death Star's shields, those personnel would be turned into Borg drones, which in turn, will turn other personnel into Borg drones causing the Borg to increase their numbers exopentially. The Borg ship is to the Death Star what a mosquito carrying yellow fever is to a human. A human can easily swat a tiny mosquito, but the real threat is the infection hiding inside of it.
 
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arobie

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I don't think the turning into a borg drone is instantaneous. If a borg needles a personnel, the other personnel will have time to kill him/her before the person become a borg drone.
 
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crossovermaniac

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In ST:FC, it only took seconds for borg nanoprobes to assimulate crew members. And killing off your crewmembers won't be an option. Borg technology can bring back the dead as seen on ST:Voyager.
 
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a_lost_packet_

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Hmmm.<br /><br />Well, there is no way the Empire is going to be bested by some puny Borg cube! Anyone here have some suggestions as to how we can save our beloved and benevolent Emperial Forces from these dastardly and fiendish Cubes?<br /><br />Hmm.. Shooting them comes to mind. Preferrable while they are out of transporter range... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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crossovermaniac

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<font color="yellow">Hmmm.<br /><br />Well, there is no way the Empire is going to be bested by some puny Borg cube! Anyone here have some suggestions as to how we can save our beloved and benevolent Emperial Forces from these dastardly and fiendish Cubes?</font><br /><br />Are you forgetting to take your medication?
 
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jcdenton

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<font color="yellow">More to the point......what WAS The Purpose underlying the construction of The Death Star???</font><br /><br /><i>"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station."</i> - Tarkin <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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drwayne

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So the Deathstar is somewhat of a "Doomsday Machine"?<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>
 
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strandedonearth

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According to the novels, the scientists who designed the Death Star were told it was to break up dead planets so the heavy core metals could be mined. Of course, they were brainwashed to ignore the 'Death Star' moniker. But the basic purpose was "Your planet will join the Empire, or your planet will become an asteroid belt." The superlaser also makes a mess of Rebel capital ships.<br /><br />"Join the Empire, they said. See the Galaxy, they said. And here I'm counting sand grains on Tatooine."<br />
 
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cryogenius

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Visualize a Vulcan Jedi Knight! How the "Force" will flow through their logical mind. Their emotions in under control. They could use the "Force with pinpoint accuracy to the .0000000000000017754%!!
 
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oscarb44

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cryogenius:<br /><br />Mankind has achieved temperatures of 0.0001Kelvin. that is only one ten thousandth of a degree above absolute zero. Whatever the case..that's mighty damn cold!
 
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