Captain Kirk’s Star Trek: The most/least racist television

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LEAST RACIST:
The core crew of the Enterprise consisted of 2 White Americans, 1 Western European, 1 Eastern European, 1 Asian, 1 African American, and 1 alien. With Spock, the alien, excluded, this is an adequate representation of human cross-culture where traditional racist mores would be expected and obvious. Instead we see no distinction created or inferred based on any of the character’s ethnic heritage. Scottie is quite obviously a Scotsman and has even been seen in kilt, but is accepted by all as having no equal in the engine room, nor as a lesser choice for third in command. Sulu, the Asian, navigates the Enterprise, and is subject to the same dangers and fate as his non-Asian shipmates. The fact that he is non-white is rarely, arguable never, pointed out at all. During the series, Chekov must have represented the enemy in the Cold War to television viewers. He even speaks with a thick Russian accent bordering on a speech impediment. Is Chekov ever looked down on, excluded, or singled out? Never. O’hura, besides being the only female, is black. Many character interactions with O’hura border on sexism, but that’s the point. There is never a color issue. In contrast, the white American ship’s doctor, “Bones” McCoy, is the only member with a nickname, and is the only one with a conflicting temperament. Now there is Spock, the alien. In many episodes his alien heritage, including the fact that he is half-human, is the focus of conflict. In a sense, Spock serves to represent any or all those of a minority ethnic culture and the struggles they face in being inherently different than the majority in several ways. A major focus of the series as a whole was not only the successful struggle undertaken by Spock in these matters, but by the majority as well. Always a happy, resolved outcome follows any Spock-versus-Human conflict. So, not only did Kirk’s Star Trek demonstrate a non-racist human society, but served to teach us, through the alien, Spock, how the Utopia would be achieved.

MOST RACIST:
Captain Kirk’s Star Trek unabashedly thrust stereotypical racism into American households during its tenure. Captain Kirk, the self-serving, dominating white-American hero (from Idaho no less) led a band of rubber-stamped subservient ethnic minorities including a Western European, an Eastern European, an Asian, and an African American. Each character is cast into a proper mold befitting common racist sentiment. Scottie, the Scotsman (how trite) is loud, quick to fib, and rumored to have a weakness for liquor- is there a Scottish racist stereotype missed? Not since Mr. Bojangles has there been a portrayed character as repressed due to ethnicity than Mr. Sulu. Never doing unless he is told, never speaking unless spoken to. It’s not surprising the Asian was cast as the closest thing to a robot. Pitiful. Captain Kirk is not a big man, but be sure that Mr. Chekov, the Russian, is a full six inches shorter. Americans had nothing to fear of the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War, especially if the enemy were small and of slightly lower intelligence, as was Chekov. There is no more a sickening portrayal of racism on television than in the character of the sexy communications officer O’Hura. In order to omit the obvious fact that she is black, she is made into an inanimate object of lust. The BlackMan has been destroyed on Captain Kirk’s Star Trek, and such is the lot of his woman. McCoy, the white ship’s doctor, carries unashamed prejudice and disdain toward the alien shipmate, Spock, who is really the only source of character conflict due to being “different.” This episode-to-episode conflict seems to suggest that if only Spock would himself realize his “place” as do the other ethnic minority characters, there would be no conflict.
 
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ZenGalacticore

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IIRC, Kirk was from Iowa. And Scotty, though he be a Scot, is just as white as Great White Captain.

And in case you didn't know it, Russians are white too.

At least they had Asians and Africans on the show. I don't see too many minorities on "Lost in Space", the "Outer Limits", or "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" or the original "Battlestar Galactica". And the two latter were years after the original 'Star Trek".
 
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Start Trek amplified ethnicity in order to show that even though these people came from different cultures and backgrounds, they were equal and just as human (even if they weren't) as anyone else. It's also a message that cultural diversity should be celebrated and not denigrated.

Uhura wasn't portrayed as a sex symbol. She was portrayed as MORE than just a sex symbol. She was a highly competent professional who ably demonstrated her knowledge and skill on the show. She was part of the bridge crew and, several times, her seniority was displayed off the bridge as well.

Checkov was "Russian" and, yes, there was some sensationalism there. But, Checkov was also Star Trek's answer to the younger generation. It's common knowledge his "Beatles' like" look was aimed at bringing in the younger crowd. He was the "young punk kid" of Star Trek, his nationalism was just a nice hook showing that eventually even America and Russian will cooperate with each other.

Scotty, well, Scotty is just awesome. Scotty was a man's man. Engineer, scotch drinker, ladies' man and a brawler when he needed to be. So, Scotty liked scotch. /shrug Still, his character's amplified cultural differences were part of the "Melting Pot" idea of Star Trek. Scotty's professionalism and huge range of knowledge was unequaled. Don't forget, the Scots have a very, very long tradition of innovation, science and invention. You'll recognize a few names on this list. Even Spock deferred to Scotty's knowledge when it came down to engineering and "making something work." I imagine if there was a "real" Star Trek Universe out there somewhere, staff meetings would inevitably get bogged down as Spock and Scotty babbled on to each other about the relative merits of flux capacitors in manipulating warp fields, heedless of the blank stares and empty gazes of the rest of the Command staff...

Sulu wasn't subservient. Heck, running around with a rapier, even though it annoyed the cast to no end, showed just how diverse Sulu's character was. No katana or or weird oriental weapon for Sulu! Instead, Sulu takes on a classic Three Musketeer personae. That's pretty wild. It's an acceptance of cultural diversity. Sulu was Kirk's right-hand man when it came down to taking the ship from point A to point B. Remember, the Enterprise was a military style ship. Just because Kirk gave Sulu orders doesn't mean they were commenting on his race. Sulu was a pretty awesome character.

I think one thing about Star Trek that was a bit shocking to some was the fact that they emphasized cultural diversity. Everyone was NOT the same. Not only were they from widely varying cultures, the characters were free enough to express their cultural heritage within the Star Trek society. Scotty wore a kilt with his dress uniform. Uhura learned swahili first (IIRRC) when her memories were wiped instead of English. Spock's alien culture was embraced many times and even his music was appreciated. Even McCoy's "hick Southern country doctor" image did not degrade his overwhelming image of medical competency.

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ZenGalacticore

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Adding to what Alp said, Chekov was Roddenberry's answer to Davy Jones in 'The Monkees', who at the time were as popular as the Beatles with the younger kids and even some of the older kids (1968).

And Dr Mckoy was a Southerner, and a Georgia doctor, but he was not a "hick", any more than a doctor from Ohio or upstate New York would be a hick, just a Southerner who happened to be somewhat country. ;) :)

And Sulu, fourth in line of command, didn't talk with a caricatured Asian accent. This was a first in American Television and Film, as before, on the rare occasion that real Asians were cast in featured roles at all, the silly accents were always used. In fact, when George Takei won the role of Sulu, he excitedly called his parents and emphasized that he would not have to do an Asian stereotyped accent.
 
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a_lost_packet_":28rnoha7 said:
Uhura wasn't portrayed as a sex symbol. She was portrayed as MORE than just a sex symbol. She was a highly competent professional who ably demonstrated her knowledge and skill on the show. She was part of the bridge crew and, several times, her seniority was displayed off the bridge as well.

Except that while she was depicted as being technically very competent and would occasionally man the helm in emergencies, she was never given command of the bridge when the other senior officers were absent, even though she clearly outranked other officers who were given that duty. If memory serves me, didn't they actually give Chekov, a mere ensign, the bridge in one episode, even though Uhura was a lieutenant? Ouch! And while her character was initially written with more complexity and a far more active role in mind in terms of the plots (recall her singing ability was featured in some episodes), she was soon relegated to a status where the only lines she got in many episodes was "hailing frequencies open, captain".
 
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ZenGalacticore

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I don't think Chekov ever took command. Instead, I believe it was Lt. Sulu that took the con, briefly, in one episode. Darned if I can remember which one.

But Uhura definitely had some man-killing thighs and child-bearin' hips! :lol:
 
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a_lost_packet_":2eehxhd9 said:
Start Trek amplified ethnicity in order to show that even though these people came from different cultures and backgrounds, they were equal and just as human (even if they weren't) as anyone else. It's also a message that cultural diversity should be celebrated and not denigrated.

Uhura wasn't portrayed as a sex symbol. She was portrayed as MORE than just a sex symbol. She was a highly competent professional who ably demonstrated her knowledge and skill on the show. She was part of the bridge crew and, several times, her seniority was displayed off the bridge as well.
Uhura was so important a figure in America at the time that when Nichelle Nichols considered quitting in season 1 she got a call from Dr. Martin Luther King telling her that not only was he a big fan of the series but that her role was too important to young blacks, especially young black women, for her to do so. She of course stayed encouraging the likes of Dr. Mae Jemison, who specifically named Uhura as her inspiration to join NASA and become an astronaut.

Then there was the Kirk-Uhura kiss in Plato's Stepchildren which broke all kinds of new territory on 1960's US TV.

Chekov took command of the bridge in ST-V.
 
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drwayne

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Checkov took over on scanners so much one wonders if someone had him in mind for a blue uniform.
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Much is made in certain circles, usually in the course of contrasting Kirk and Picard, of the way that
the command structure of the Enterprise is portrayed. For the most part, we seldom get to see
the department heads commanding their sections (with some minor exceptions in Medical). One
can easily get the impression that Kirk does all the ordering about at all levels.

Practically, I think this is a product of the way the TV series was made, with the main characters
and a bunch of ---essentially extras being what we saw. You don't get to see the command team
running their teams because of this. You don't get to see Sulu or Uhura develop and utilize their
command skills.

This "tunnel vision" really becomes clear as one reads novels, and as ST:TNG goes forward.

Wayne
 
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docm":2gv2lfv4 said:
Then there was the Kirk-Uhura kiss in Plato's Stepchildren which broke all kinds of new territory on 1960's US TV.

Bingo.

I'm old enough to remember back in the 60's when this series made it's debut. Compared to the regular fare that networks offered, Star trek not only pushed down barriers, but smashed through them. You have to remember that back in those days, people's (and the censor's) attitudes were very different. TV played it pretty safe back then, and controversial topics such as divorce, single pregnacy, racism were ignored.

But with Star Trek, a heck of a lot of social issues were raised. Trust me, this show broke a lot of barriers. Mention has been made about the subserviant roles some of non-white origins played. True, it can be interpreted that way. But it is equally important to remember that back in those days, no other show did it at all. If a captain had a crew, they were all white. One major TV show, Bonanza, was running the same time as Star Trek, and holy cow, just look at their character line-up. All white males, and their cook, a little Chinese...

Personally, I have great respect for Roddenberry for raising a lot of social issues that were previously avoided on TV.

Issues depicted in the various series include war and peace, the value of personal loyalty, authoritarianism, imperialism, class warfare, economics, racism, religion, human rights, sexism and feminism, and the role of technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek
 
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jim48

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Interesting thread. I always viewed Star Trek as a cop show, with Kirk as Elliot Ness or Steve McGarrett or Robert T. Ironside, leading an elite group. OP fails to make a convincing case for the show being racist, although there was a sense of superiority whenever Kirk explained or defended the Federation, a sort of 23rd century white man's burden. That smacked more of elitism than racism though. Some credit has to go to the network, which did not like any of the all white cast of the first pilot save for Jeff Hunter but agreed to the cast we came to know and love.
 
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There certain episodes that dealt with very specific sensitive issues of the day. I;m a trekker not a trekkie so I can't quote chapter and verse which episode did what but here's what I remember. Episode that dealt with racism, the guys who were half black and half white on opposite sides. Episode that dealt with over population and birth control where the people were so packed together they brought Kirk to their planet to introduce a disease. Episode that dealt with social status about the cloud people and the miners who had no status and many more.
 
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docm

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One of my favorites besides that list: Balance of Terror, Space Seed (Khan), Journey to Babel and Amok Time.

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Episode that dealt with racism, the guys who were half black and half white on opposite sides.
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. Frank Gorshin got an Emmy nomination for his role as Bele.

Episode that dealt with over population and birth control where the people were so packed together they brought Kirk to their planet to introduce a disease.

The Mark Of Gideon. An excellent piece of writing by George Slavin and Stanley Adams and acting by all concerned.

Episode that dealt with social status about the cloud people and the miners who had no status and many more.

The Cloud Minders. Environmentalism before most people knew what it meant and another maximum effort all 'round. Ranked #68 on TV Guides 100 greatest TV episodes of all time. It also won a Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation.

Series high points: Hugo Awards for The Menagerie and The City On The Edge Of Forever; Hugo nominations for Naked Time, The Corbomite Maneuver, Mirror Mirror, The Trouble With Tribbles, The Doomsday Machine and Amok Time and 3 Supporting Actor Emmy nominations for Leonard Nimoy, an Emmy nomination for Best Dramatic Series in 1967 and a Writers Guild of America Best Dramatic Episode Award to Harlan Ellison for The City On The Edge Of Forever.
 
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jim48

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I think you got a little mixed up on "The Cloud Minders", Doc. Harlan Ellison didn't write that. One of the best social commentary shows was "The Return of the Archons", from a story by Gene Roddenberry and wonderfully directed by Joe Pevney. This was the one that convinced many that Star Trek was at least agnostic, given this wonderful slap at organized religion! "It... is the will of Landru."
 
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drwayne

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"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. Frank Gorshin got an Emmy nomination for his role as Bele"

One of the few episodes in which there is a shot from the transporter pads looking out into
the transporter room.
 
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docm

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jim48":174ichla said:
I think you got a little mixed up on "The Cloud Minders", Doc.
Right you are....I was thinking ahead to the achievement's paragraph and his contribution to "The City on the Edge of Forever."

This was the one that convinced many that Star Trek was at least agnostic, given this wonderful slap at organized religion! "It... is the will of Landru."

Donno if that was a slap at religion or cultism. Remember that in the Balance of Terror there was a very poignant chapel scene between Kirk and Weapons Specialist Martine after her fiance' dies.
 
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docm":23sjgwjm said:
Donno if that was a slap at religion or cultism.

On that planet, Laundu was not just some cult. It was the religion on the planet. So it was definately a slap against mainstream, organized religion.

In the original pilot the second in command was a woman. Network execs nixed that, if not we might not have had a Mr. Spock! They chose the original crew well, a diverse cross section of humans, because on Roddenberry's Earth we are all equal. TNG kept that tradition going. The commander of Deep Space 9 was black and the head of Security was a female alien. With half the crew Federation and half Mahki (sp) Voyager was probably the most diverse of them all. But each show that came after Star Trek at least tried to continue the tradition that Gene Roddenberry started. It was ground breaking TV at the time and Iwas proud to have been able to watch it all.
 
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jim48

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Speaking of Captain Kirk, something I've always wondered about. I knew that William Shatner was raised an orthodox Jew in Canada, but I've always wondered what kind of a name Shatner is. I recently watched a 1999 Legends of Television interview with him in which he revealed that the family name was Schecter or Schacter or something like that. An aunt quickly changed that to Shatner on his birth certificate!
 
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docm

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He's Ukrainian-Jewish and the original family name was Schattner. It was his paternal grandfather Wolf Schattner who insisted on changing it by removing the 'c' and one 't'.

I am not a Starfleet commander, or T.J. Hooker. I don't live on Starship NCC-1701, or own a phaser. And I don't know anybody named Bones, Sulu, or Spock. And no, I've never had green alien sex, though I'm sure it would be quite an evening. I speak English and French, not Klingon! I drink Labatt's, not Romulan ale! And when someone says to me 'Live long and prosper', I seriously mean it when I say, 'Get a life'. My doctor's name is not McCoy, it's Ginsberg. And tribbles were puppets, not real animals. PUPPETS! And when I speak, I never, ever talk like every. Word. Is. Its. Own. Sentence. I live in California, but I was raised in Montreal. And yes, I've gone where no man has gone before, but I was in Mexico and her father gave me permission! My name is William Shatner, and I am Canadian!

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