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MeteorWayne

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I judged it a bit dimmer than delta, which is where my +3.2 came from. To refine the estimate I defocused delta to be the same size as the comet then compared the brightness, came up with basically the same result. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Today's APOD shows the expansion of the coma over the last few days. Wow!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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On this page is a map showing the path of 17P/Holmes through June (the bottom map)<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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I also have animations showing the expansion, brightening, and subsequent dimming.<br /><br />I concur that it has definitely dimmed, especially as evidenced by the brightness of the stars seen through the coma. The first couple days they weren't even visible. Now they're visually observable through a modest scope and the camera tells the whole story.<br /><br />That said, my astrometrics show that the expansion of the outter coma continues at a steady rate given any 24hr period. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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The stars behind the coma now were not there a day or two ago.<br />It is moving about 1 minute a day in both RA and Dec. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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adrenalynn

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There were other stars of similar mag behind the coma, however.<br /><br />I've been plotting it over the USNO catalog limiting to 16.7Mag. Doing a plate solution is the best way to get a feel for how much expansion (and speed there-of) there is in the coma.<br /><br />I can observe to about 16Mag here, photograph to 21Mag without "extraordinary measures" <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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Here we are some images I took from my trip last night.<br /><br />Monday 30th October 2007.<br /><br />Location: Dymchurch, Kent, United Kingdom.<br />51 degrees, 1' 26" North. 0 degree, 59' 20" East.<br /><br />Olympus OM10 with 50mm & 70 - 220mm Zoom lens.<br /><br /><font color="yellow">Some of the images below, need to be clicked on in Imageshack to get the full resolution</font><br /><br />Comet 17/P Holmes.<br /><br />Comet 17/P Holmes & Northern Perseus.<br /><br />Comet 17/P Holmes, Northern Perseus & Moonlit Cirrus clouds.<br /><br />Comet 17/P Holmes, Perseus & Pleiades / M45. <br /><br />Close up of Comet 17/P Holmes.<br /><br />The below not quite related to Comet 17/P Holmes I know, but I still took them last night.<br /><br />Moon over the English Channel. <font color="yellow">Also Mars can be seen rising over Folkestone, Kent, UK.</font><br /><br />Moon shining through Cirrus Clouds & moon arc on left. <font color="yellow">The lights on the coast<br />are Folkestone. My home town Ashford is about 17 KM / 11 Miles inland off the <br />left.</font><br /><br />Close up of moon arc in Cirrus Clouds.<br /><br />Below, not too easy to take from the UK, as this part of the sky is at best very low.<br /><br />http://img135.images</safety_wrapper <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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adrenalynn

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Nice, Andrew! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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Thanks Adrenalynn,<br /><br />Compared to your images, they are probably a bit rubbish, but I enjoyed taking <br />them & sharing them here.<br /><br />I will probably go back either tomorrow or more likely Thursday & get a few more.<br /><br />I don't know, but is Comet Holmes fainter today? I does look larger, no doubt.<br /><br />Perhaps the Coma is dispersing & the comet will fade back to obscurity?<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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adrenalynn

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It was definitely dimmer with a larger coma last night. Not up for me yet (still daylight/just sunset on the left coast).<br /><br />JLRO will see light in about an hour, and Holmes should be worth observing at about 20:40 (out of the light muck)<br /><br />After that, I'll probably take a shot at a couple nearby Messiers.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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adrenalynn

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If you're gonna have a peek at it, I'd do it soon. Haven't calculated yet, but from my vantage, looks like the brightness is down nearly a half mag, and the coma continues to expand. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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Thanks Adrenalynn,<br /><br />That's what I thought.<br /><br />Comet 17/P Holmes is definately on the wane. Will take another look tonight.<br /><br />It is bright & sunny here right now (a little chilly 2 C / 36 F). If stays clear, should get another good look.<br /><br />The moon has now waned & is rising later enough now to see Holmes against a 'dark' sky.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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alokmohan

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Was it visible in Kolkata.There was some hue and cry about UFO.Hope its not mr.Holmes.
 
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i could see it quite clear here in halifax nova scotia. clear sky all night. Local paper had a write up on it. I'm 99% sure it is what I saw looked like perseus had a bit of a hunchback i used all of your directons to find it if I am right it was behind perseus and with 2 of his brighter stars formed a perfect triangle i dont have the advantage of a telescope yet(still trying to find one) and my binocs(8x40) didnt give it any justice other than no matter how much i tryed to focus it stayed a giant fuzzball in the sky. so I am certain i was looking in the right direction. thanks a million guys you all rock excellent advice in finding it. to the naked eye it looked the same all night till morn but dimmed a bit I am assuming due to the sun starting to come up. ty Jason
 
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<font color="yellow">and with 2 of his brighter stars formed a perfect triangle </font><br /><br /><font color="yellow">matter how much i tryed to focus it stayed a giant fuzzball </font><br /><br />That certainly sounds like Holmes - Grats on finding and observing it!<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>.</p><p><font size="3">bipartisan</font>  (<span style="color:blue" class="pointer"><span class="pron"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode" size="2">bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən</font></span></span>) [Adj.]  Maintaining the ability to blame republications when your stimulus plan proves to be a devastating failure.</p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ff0000">IMPE</font><font color="#c0c0c0">ACH</font> <font color="#0000ff"><font color="#c0c0c0">O</font>BAMA</font>!</font></strong></p> </div>
 
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ty I am looking forward to 2 hours from now so i can see it again I take everyone around to see saying "there it is right there" but for some strange not everyone is as excited as I am the wife keeps sying "ok ok there it is stop talking about it its only a comet" but for me it's my first I missed haley so this is exciting I wasnt into the stars like I am now ohhhhhhh i cant wait for a telescope
 
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Location: Ashford, Kent, United Kingdom.<br /><br />51 degrees, 8' North. 0 degree, 53' East. <br /><br />I've just been outside & have been looking at Comet Holmes with my 7 X 50's.<br /><br />What has become more obvious, that the coma has expanded enormously, but there is<br />a bright, well defined centre.<br /><br />To the naked eye, Comet Holmes as faded somewhat. The eastward movement is noticable, <br />somewhat further away from Mirfak, than only on Monday, when I took the images<br />a few posts up on Monday.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Something here a little different.<br /><br />Inner solar system as seen from Comet 17/P Holmes.<br /><br />Mercury is at magnitude +3.85 & is only 14% illuminated.<br />Venus is at magnitude +1.08 & is 28% illuminated.<br />Earth is at magnitude +0.98 & is only 6% illuminated.<br />The Moon is at, or just below naked eye visibilty at magnitude +6.87<br />Mars is at magnitude +1.87 & is 28% illuminated.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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Just got back from some dark sky observing. Yes the center has dimmed, but the comet is so much larger than last weekend.<br />Just with the naked eye it was so easy to see it's diameter.<br /><br />Through binoculars it was sureal. You see all these pinpoint background stars, and this big fuzzy ball floating in front of them.<br /><br />The only thing it's missing is the tail. Best comet I've seen since Hale-Bopp.
 
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I saw it too, not very highly magnified though...<br />It seemed impossible to focus to me, though that just might be the fact its mostly a cloud of debris now.... <br /><br />This was the fuzzy ball just north of Perseus right? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>
 
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Yep, that was it. There is a tiny star like center, but it's likely too small for binoculars. I can only see that when I get the scope on it.<br /><br />The coma is getting much larger and fainter as the dust spreads out, but the total magnitude seems to be holding around Mag +3 to +3.2<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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It was cloudy last night & again today, so I have not seen it for a couple of days now.<br /><br />At least I got to see it well on Monday.<br /><br />Thanks for all of your updates.<br /><br />It looks like Holmes is slowly fading back, but it is worth while keeping a watch, in case<br />another outburst occurs.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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