Delta II GPS2R Explosion: Where can I find a nice HQ video?

[llivinglarge]

Would Nasaspaceflight have it?

 

[j05h]

There's a copy of it on youtube.com and might be one on google video. <br /><br />pretty impressive shower of flaming debris. I'll post a link later if you can't find it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[radarredux]

Here it is on YouTube.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtkhYzIkCR0<br />

 

[MeteorWayne]

"A problem with the vehicle."<br /><br />How understated <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[j05h]

Thanks RadarRedux! <br /><br />i'd like to point out that the failure was a solid rocket booster, not the main liquid engine. SRBs are dangerous. <br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[llivinglarge]

I don't care where the failure started at, the end result was something resembling the day of Armageddon...

 

[rybanis]

<i>Thanks RadarRedux! <br /><br />i'd like to point out that the failure was a solid rocket booster, not the main liquid engine. SRBs are dangerous. </i><br /><br />If you look really closely, you can see the SRB in question behaving...erm...less than optimally right before the explosion. I think the casing had a multi-foot long crack that had gasses spewing forth. <br /><br />Quite a few people lost cars that day, IIRC. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Any idea what date this was? I have only witnessed one launch, and it was from Orlando, a good distance away (business trip). However, this could be the one I saw. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

It probably wasn't now that I think about it. The one I saw blow up was a nighttime launch. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

It was January 17 1997. The nighttime failure was the first Delta 3 on August 27 1998. There was not much explosive force to it, however.<br /><br />A Titan 4 exploded at sunrise on August 12 1998 as well, back to back failures.<br /><br />Before those three you have to go back to 1987 for the previous launch failure here (not counting upper stage). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[rybanis]

Oh the Delta III, what an awkward bird. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Yes that's probably the one I saw (8/27/98) . IIRC, it went over 30 seconds before "it just didn't look right" to me. Then I had to run back up to the hotel room to find out what happened.<br /><br />{huff and puff} <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[j05h]

<i>> I don't care where the failure started at, the end result was something resembling the day of Armageddon...</i><br /><br />I care! NASA wants to fly astronauts on a similiar, dangerous technology. We can argue failure stats all day, but the truth is that solid rockets have fast, nasty failure modes that liquid motors don't have. <br /><br />J <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[llivinglarge]

SRB failure isn't anything new... Challenger anyone?

 

[radarredux]

> <i><font color="yellow">SRB failure isn't anything new... Challenger anyone?</font>/i><br /><br />Although, humans have flown into space using ~100 SRBs since then without a single failure (roughly 50 launches with two SRBs each).</i>

 

[radarredux]

> <i><font color="yellow">solid rockets have fast, nasty failure modes that liquid motors don't have.</font>/i><br /><br />Another issue, however, is how well the design of the system can absorb the failures and still protect the lives of the crew.<br /><br />For example, if the Challenger crew had been in an Orion capsule with an escape rocket and perched on top of the center tank, they probably would have had a much better chance of surviving the SRB failure.</i>

 

[holmec]

That was spectacular! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#0000ff"><em>"SCE to AUX" - John Aaron, curiosity pays off</em></font></p> </div>

 

[j05h]

<i>> That was spectacular!</i><br /><br />Here's another version, 2 minutes for a news program. Complete with the "movie guy" voice over:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDnkEOKR1BE <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>

 

[thereiwas]

The Russians had a very spectacular *liquid* engine failure in the late 60's that effectively put an end to their moon plans. It was their N1 rocket I believe. So solid engines are not the only dangerous type.<br /><br />I agree with von Braun's point that you should not put men on a rocket that you can't throttle or shut off.

 

[j05h]

<i>> The Russians had a very spectacular *liquid* engine failure... I agree with von Braun's point that you should not put men on a rocket that you can't throttle or shut off.</i><br /><br />I don't mean to present liquid rockets as a panacea, accidents happen. There is wisdom in the past. The N1's plumbing was to complex and the explosion wiped out a group of Soviet generals and scientists. Von Braun had the right idea. <br /><br />Josh <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div align="center"><em>We need a first generation of pioneers.</em><br /></div> </div>