I think the lunar ESAS is a fine plan with much potential for engineering growth, both for the Moon and Mars. And as I predicted months ago on this forum, of COURSE it wasn't going to please everyone. But I guarantee you all, as sure as you're reading this, if China, Russia or Japan decided to got to the Moon, their mission architectures wouldn't deviate that much from America's design. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!! LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>