Space Shuttle Return to Flight - Pt. 3

[shuttle_rtf]

Don't tell me "Blinky" is his official nickname? <img src="/images/icons/crazy.gif" />

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Don't tell me "Blinky" is his official nickname?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />I don't believe so, though I have started a strictly one-man, unofficial campaign to have the moniker 'Blinky' adopted by the cooler posters to Uplink.<br /><br />If you check out footage of him, he does seem a compulsive blinker. Could be a nervous reaction to public speaking though I have obviously never seen him without a camera on him, so perhaps it is nominal eyelid cycling. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[ozspace]

Yes, I can see the likeness to Blinky Bill, the world famous koala! And his favourite word is “Extraordinary!”<br /><br /><br />refer: http://www.blinkybill.com.au/yoramgrossemtv/characters/ch_blinky.html

 

[shuttle_rtf]

How much is it worth to put Mike "Blinky" Griffin into an article? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[SpaceKiwi]

Hehehe, probably not worth quite as much as your <b><i>former</i></b> NASA accreditation to '114's launch! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_rtf]

Chicked out for the aforementioned reason. Still, it was on there, on site, for five minutes <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[franson_space]

What's your gut feeling on if the launch will happen in July?

 

[mrmorris]

<font color="yellow">"What's your gut feeling..."</font><br /><br />I'm betting his gut says it's 50-50. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[shuttle_rtf]

50/50 <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[drwayne]

Schroedinger's cat will come up any time now. <br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[najab]

Schroedinger's cat? I thought I'd heard it was dead.

 

[mrmorris]

<font color="yellow">"Schroedinger's cat..."</font><br /><br />Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. Depends on whether a neutron decays... <br /><br />And someone would have to let it outside the box as well, of course. Otherwise it's not going anywhere. <br /><br />*edit* Forgot my SPCA disclaimer.<br /><br /><br />** There's only a 50% chance that any animals were harmed during the creation of this theoretical exercise.

 

[nacnud]

Well the cat has been in the box for getting on eighty years, I don't think there's much doubt about it now, it's not going to be in rude good health.

 

[SpaceKiwi]

Schroedinger had a cat? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />With the 50/50 and gut-feeling cliches to the fore, I wonder how long it will be before STS-114 and paralysis by analysis are mentioned in the same sentence.<br /><br />P.S. An answer for najaB's question here. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[najab]

><i>Schroedinger had a cat?</i><p>Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. You'd have to look inside the box to see - it's possible, after all, that it was empty.</p>

 

[robot_pilot]

>Looks like it was that Diffuser that's been pinpointed as the cause of the extra cycling.<br /><br />I know this is probably old hat, and this is a really long thread - but I couldn't resist posting. I'm still not 100% convinced it WAS the diffuser... the testing (which was done down at Stennis, incidentally, and not MSFC) was not in a tank that reflected the LH2 tank shape. I was not part of the testing but I was told that it was in a room, with streamers and instrumentation to show the flow patterns. Seems to me that the interior of the LH2 talk would reflect gas jets where a room would not.<br /><br />Guess we'll find out if in the next launch attempt - still not sure it was wise to cancel a third tanking test based on those results.<br /><br />

 

[najab]

Yes, it is true that the testing wasn't high-fidelity to the flight environment, <i>but</i> the diffuser in the 'problem' tank was non-spec, plain and simple. The flow rate through that diffuser configuration during testing matched what was seen during the tanking test to a 'T'.<p>If all the bananas in your house have disappeared, and there's a monkey sitting on the kitchen floor with a pile of banana skins all around him - why are you going to look for an elephant?</p>

 

[SpaceKiwi]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>If all the bananas in your house have disappeared, and there's a monkey sitting on the kitchen floor with a pile of banana skins all around him - why are you going to look for an elephant?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Wait, now there's a monkey and elephant too?! Just what kind of menagerie is this Shroedinger character running?! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>

 

[drwayne]

What hath I wrought with one little humorous comment?<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>"1) Give no quarter; 2) Take no prisoners; 3) Sink everything."  Admiral Jackie Fisher</p> </div>

 

[shuttle_rtf]

Although it was somewhat conclusive that as soon as the switch is made to a double dutch weave diffuser, there's over-cycling?

 

[scottb50]

Doctor it hurts when I do this!<br /><br />Then don't do it. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_rtf]

A JSC guy's just come on our forum and claimed Griffin is changing the Shuttle mandate from 28 launches to retirement to no more than 23 and no less than 15.

 

[shuttle_rtf]

Nice turnaround from one of our guys (Jason Harris) with some quotes found from Griffin at the Paris Air Show...so that's moved from source to article.<br /><br />"I'll be very strong on this. We know that we cannot execute 28 flights between now and shuttle retirement."

 

[najab]

><i> no more than 23 and no less than 15.</i><p>Hmm...that sounds about right: this manifest lists 23 flights, notice that ifm ost of the U(L)Fs disappear, there are 15 or so assembly missions.</p>

 

[haywood]

So the "Cupola" mission would be the last one to "cap it off", so-to-speak.<br />