STS-120/(10A) Update

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SpaceKiwi

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Thanks Guys. I know I've caught a live cross to the clock start in the past, so they've done it before, but perhaps you're right that it's not an 'everytime' event.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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earth_bound_misfit

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Alrightly, starting to get excited. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> </p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------- </p><p>Wanna see this site looking like the old SDC uplink?</p><p>Go here to see how: <strong>SDC Eye saver </strong>  </p> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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Watching the reply of the conference today. More questions about the suspect RCC panels. Didnt they get enough answers at the FRR conference? Time to put the issue to bed now i think
 
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bobblebob

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Media guy just asked "are you confident the shuttle will come back safely?"<br /><br />Im sure hes going to say "no, i think its going to blow up on reentry. next question"
 
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thereiwas

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Is there sufficient instrumentation on board to indicate whether, in the event of a fatal TPS failure, that this coating was or was not at fault? I remember that Columbia, being an early model, had a lot more instrumentation in the wings that helped diagnose the failure. Have the newer shuttles been retrofitted with the same?
 
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<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Is there sufficient instrumentation on board to indicate whether, in the event of a fatal TPS failure, that this coating was or was not at fault?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />If there was <b>any</b> expectation of further degradation in the RCC panel coating during this flight, I seriously doubt they would be GO for launch on Tuesday. Wing instrumentation takes the form of impact sensors. As it's not believed that the RCC anomolies are as a result of impact damage, there would be no relationship between data gathered from those sensors and a possible failure.<br /><br />The on-orbit inspections with the OBSS will likely furnish all the data mission engineers need to assure themselves that the RCC is in good health, and ready to return the Orbiter safely in a couple of weeks.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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As stated in the conference today, most if not all launches have had some "wear and tear" for want of a better phrase to the panels
 
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jimfromnsf

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""Just been trying to find out who writes the software for the onboard computers but ont having any look. Anyone know? "<br /><br />The primary on board computer software was developed by Rockwell. They still maintain it as a part of Boeing. "<br /><br />Actually IBM developed PASS and Rockwell developed the BFS
 
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usn_skwerl

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tuesday, what direction will they be launched towards? NE or SE?....just wondering if we might be able to see this one up along the east coast. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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MeteorWayne

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They only launch at one angle up the coast to the ISS. It's a few hundred miles offshore.<br /><br />At night you can see it as far as New England.<br />I've seen it several times in NW New Jersey (not far from you).<br /><br />I have tried twice during the day without success. By the time it gets up to us, the solid rockets are gone, and there's just "a bright moving star" (not unlike a daytime Iridium flare), which so far has been overwhelmed by daylight.<br /><br />Wayne <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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cello

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"Launch of STS-120 will be available in High Definition"<br />"Satellite = AMC 6"<br /><br />aha, 12 degrees below horizon <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" />
 
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silylene old

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<font color="yellow">The problem seems to exist in the bond between this outer coating and the main 'guts' of the RCC itself. They initially believed it was an oxidation problem between the two surfaces, and could characterise the rate of degradation by this (relatively-speaking) understood process. </font><br /><br />Do you or anyone know the CTE's (coefficient of thermal expansion) for the base layer and the outer coating of the RCC? If the CTE's of these two materials differ by more than a slight amount, it is really quite difficult for any bonding agent to reliably hold them together without delamination through cycles of heating/cooling. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><em><font color="#0000ff">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</font></em> </div><div class="Discussion_UserSignature" align="center"><font color="#0000ff"><em>I really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function.</em></font> </div> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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Im abit confused now. I thought there was a 60% of favourable weather for launch?<br /><br />However just listening to the conference and Kathy Winters said there is a "60-percent chance of KSC weather prohibiting launch". So that would make a 40% chance of favourable weather?
 
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MeteorWayne

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I didn't hear it but they usually do state the chances of <b>unfavorable </b>weather in the briefings. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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rocketwatcher2001

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The way I hear it now is 40% Go, 60% No Go. I'm still going to be there at the riverside. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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rocketwatcher2001

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<font color="yellow">Wait and see. </font><br /><br />alok-<br />Yes Sir. Do you ever plan to visit here to watch a launch? It's awesome, I hope you get the chance some time. If you do, I'll show you the best places to see it from. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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I hope to go at some point too.<br /><br />Looks like the weather may not co-operate. <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /> .<br /><br />Lets hope the forecast changes for the better.<br /><br />I can only dip in & out of the forums at the moment, as some troll (not here on SDC btw)<br />decided to put a virus in my system, so having to use another computer @ work for now.<br /><br />Hopefully I will be back properly soon.<br /><br />Andrew Brown. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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"Conditions in Florida are expected to improve to 60 percent "go" on Wednesday and Thursday, but forecasters are predicting out-of-limits winds and rain showers at all three of NASA's emergency runways in Spain and France both days"<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html<br /><br />If we dont get up by Thursday, how is this going to effect STS-122?<br /><br />
 
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rocketwatcher2001

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<font color="yellow"> hope to go at some point too. </font><br /><br />I'll be happy to show you around, also. That goes for everybody wanting to come down for a launch or landing. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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bobblebob

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Im hoping to fly out for a launch sometime in 2009 <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <br /><br />Is their free viewing areas aswell as the ones that you can book tickets for? I will try and get tickets but if they all sell out be good to know i have a backup
 
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SpaceKiwi

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Hey SG, as per usual I'd just like to wish you good management and good luck with your duties on Console today. It doesn't seem like the weather gods are giving you the full 'two-thumbs-up' for launch, but hopefully you'll be able to catch a break in the wet stuff before the window opens.<br /><br />And, to Discovery and the intrepid STS-120 crew ... godspeed and good luck for a successful mission and return to Earth. It seems like I've been awaiting this mission practically since I arrived here. It will be fantastic to finally see some more habitable volume added to ISS.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero?  Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
 
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rocketwatcher2001

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There are lots of good places to see it without buying a ticket. Where I'll be tomorrow is one of 2 places, depending on how things work out with my schedule. I'll either be at the riverside across the street from J.C.Penny's on US 1, or at the Chain of Lakes tower near Brevard Community College. Both places let you see the launch pad very well. You can get a few miles closer if you cross the Rt. 406 causeway, but you can't see it on the ground because of the trees, but as soon as it lifts off, you can see it great. <br /><br />The tickets that you can buy to see it on the NASA causeway are really great too, I saw STS 51D from there in 1985, but back then, you didn't need a ticket, they would give you a car pass on a space available basis. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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