"Also, I assume there's a fair bit of equipment and consumables travelling up in Harmony? "<br /><br />No consumables and little extra equipment since the module is pretty heavy.
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MMT kids sit on the beach on a tarp with hardhats on. they "chirp" the office if hail smacks the tarp. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
<img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> LMAO! i was close. <br /><br />its kind of like the "weather station sign" at many airports; if the rock near the sign is wet, that means its raining. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
May skip the APU Hot Fire test and lots of other stuff, they usually write a big shuttle article daily, but this was a heavy roundup.<br /><br />http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5244<br />
Hi tech, but effective <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />I might set some up here next summer for a test. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
How come they're allowed to skip these tests? i would have thought the APU hot fire test would be pretty important?
BpCooper,<br /><br />Thanks for the numbers. Wow! The crawler sure does some heavy lifting! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> The secret to peace of mind is a short attention span. </div>
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Weekly Update from NASA:<br /><br />10.05.07<br />George Diller<br />Kennedy Space Center, Fla.<br />321-867-2468<br />george.h.diller@nasa.gov<br />STATUS REPORT: S-100507<br />NASA'S SPACE SHUTTLE PROCESSING STATUS REPORT<br /><br />Mission: STS-120 - 23rd International Space Station Flight - U.S. Node <br />2 (Harmony) <br />Vehicle: Discovery (OV-103) <br />Location: Launch Pad 39A <br />Launch Date: Targeted for Oct. 23, 2007 <br />Crew: Melroy, Zamka, Parazynski, Wheelock, Wilson, Nespoli and Tani <br />Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles <br /><br />On Sunday, STS-120 was transported via the crawler transporter to <br />Launch Pad 39A. The rotating service structure, which protects and <br />provides access to the orbiter at the pad, was rolled into position <br />on Monday. During the week, workers performed shuttle interface <br />testing, orbiter/external tank leak checks and launch pad <br />validations. The payload was installed in the orbiter on Thursday, <br />and the sensor packs were installed on the orbiter boom sensor <br />system.<br /><br />Loading of hypergolic propellants aboard Discovery is scheduled for <br />this weekend. Next week, the terminal countdown demonstration test is <br />scheduled with the STS-120 astronauts and the launch team. This <br />routine series of events includes emergency training procedures and a <br />launch countdown dress rehearsal. <br /><br />After the hail monitoring system at the pad showed possible hail in <br />the predawn hours of Wednesday, engineers fully inspected the space <br />shuttle but found no damage. There were no radar indications of hail, <br />though wind-driven rain may have been possible. The calibration of <br />the hail monitoring system sensors and associated instrumentation is <br />being assessed. <br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
LOL!<br /><br />the previously mentioned kids that sit on the tarp are also equipped with sanding blocks. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Whats this talk of a roll back for RCC panal replacement? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
Eh? I'm not aware of any issue concerning the RCC. Would you care to elaborate on what you've heard/are talking about?<br /><br /><br />EDIT:<br />Appears NSF are running a story concerning the potential replacement of three RCC panels.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
I trust shuttle_guy alot more than any website, if he is unware of a problem thats good for me <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <br /><br />Edit: cbs now reporting this:<br /><br />"Using a technique called thermography, Discovery's RCC panels were inspected as usual prior to the orbiter's roll out to the launch pad last week. Three of the shuttle 44 leading edge panels showed defects that have been in place for the last few flights"<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html<br /><br />
NSF spreading bad info? The L2-section of the site is usually the basis for articles and stuff on the site. L2 consists purely of NASA documentation and presentations. I wouldn't call it bad info as I've known about the RCC-consern for a couple of days, and I learned about it from L2. A presentation from the NESC to be exact, showing what the concern is and what the recommendation is.<br /><br />shuttle_guy, you should contact Chris Bergin about getting a membership of L2. NASA/contractor personell get free access. Then you can see what a wealth of information there is on the site, and that NSF rarely is wrong, and what is posted and written on that site actually comes from NASA/contractor personel!
Kimmern123...<br /><br />Shuttle_guy works for United Space Alliance.<br />I don't think he needs a membership to NSF to know what's what.<br />He has first-hand information that even NSF doesn't have.<br /><br />Boots on the ground.<br />
Looks like they have rolled back the RSS in preparation for the APU hot fire.<br /><br />http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45lh.html
I know he doesn't, and I'm very grateful for all the info he provides to this forum. Many USA people also are on NSF, and quite a few NASA-people as well. Much of the info on L2 and NSF comes from NASA/contractor-workers and sometimes even info they even know gets posted.<br /><br />I think shuttle_guy could be a good contributor to that site as well. So if you read this, contact Chris and he'll get things up and running 
I do wonder how long it's going to take for the first person to lose their job due to slipping too much info to NSF L2. It will happen eventually.
"NSF is known for spreading bad info."<br /><br />Wow Dave, I'm upset to read that from you, and I'd love to know why you'd think that is warranted.<br /><br />We've broken a hell of a lot of accurate news (note the RCC panel info, http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5249 a day to a day and a half before any other site, as just one example). <br /><br />Your comment came in reference to the RCC panel reference above. Yet that was true, yes? Just because you hadn't heard it did not mean it wasn't true and did not warrant you making up something about us providing false information, as you were wrong to do so.<br /><br />In fact, I'd like to know one example of where we've gotten the information incorrect?<br /><br />Find me one out of our content:<br />http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/cat.asp?cid=4<br />http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/cat.asp?cid=6<br />http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/cat.asp?cid=5<br /><br />You mention the APU Hot Fire - which was under consideration of being removed from the flow, as per Wayne Hale via Standup/Integration meeting, which is why we wrote "may" in our article on that, before noting it was re-installed into the flow for Thursday, later in the week.<br /><br />Our information comes from the HUNDREDS of USA and NASA managers and engineers on the site and via the vast amount of documentation other sites simply do not have the source base to compete with.<br /><br />Regardless, of all people, I'm shocked you would post such a comment, as it's simply not true and coming from you it is upsetting.
"I do wonder how long it's going to take for the first person to lose their job due to slipping too much info to NSF L2. It will happen eventually"<br /><br />You don't understand what L2 is. We would never put anyone at risk of this, as it is explained in the intro sections of that area of the site. We're picking up the ball PAO's dropped, we're not publishing anything SBU, ITAR, Export Controlled etc.etc.
"The shuttle Discovery's crew strapped in for a dress-rehearsal countdown today to clear the way for launch Oct. 23 on a critical space station assembly mission. NASA managers, meanwhile, met for a program-level flight readiness review but were unable to reach a consensus on whether to replace three suspect wing leading edge panels or to launch Discovery as is.<br /><br />Replacing the panels would require moving Discovery off the launch pad and back to its hangar for repairs, work that likely would delay launch for weeks if not longer. A decision on how to proceed is expected next week, after a headquarters-level flight readiness review Tuesday"<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html
How much power do the NASA Engineering Safety Center have? If there was a difference of opinion, can they overrule the engineers and demand a replacement of the tiles?<br /><br />Id imagine they would be easily swayed towards a replacement after the Columbia experience
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>If there was a difference of opinion, can they overrule the engineers and demand a replacement of the tiles?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br />Perhaps one of the experts will weigh in here on this but my understanding is, no, they have no power to 'overrule'. Their opinion and analysis will be carefully considered in the MMT/FRR meetings, and the ultimate decision to fly will lie there.<br /><br />IIRC, should STS-120 fly as-is, it won't be the first time a mission has gone ahead with some discenting opinion on the table and on record since RTF.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em><font size="2" color="#ff0000">Who is this superhero? Henry, the mild-mannered janitor ... could be!</font></em></p><p><em><font size="2">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></em></p><p><font size="5">Bring Back The Black!</font></p> </div>
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