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<p>Hey folks,</p><p>So the time was around 11:45PM to 11:55PM on Saturday, June 14th, 2008.&nbsp; The location is San Diego, CA.&nbsp; I was driving home, facing west.&nbsp; Then I (and the rest of my family) see a falling object in the sky.&nbsp; It&nbsp;appeared to be way&nbsp;out over the Pacific Ocean.&nbsp; The flame trail was clearly visible and orange. The object itself was covered in green flames.&nbsp;&nbsp; Did anyone else happen to catch this event?&nbsp; If so, what was it?&nbsp; A giant rock?&nbsp; A satillite? Perhaps made of copper since it was burning with green flames?</p><p>&nbsp;Thanks for your time.</p><p>Don</p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hey folks,So the time was around 11:45PM to 11:55PM on Saturday, June 14th, 2008.&nbsp; The location is San Diego, CA.&nbsp; I was driving home, facing west.&nbsp; Then I (and the rest of my family) see a falling object in the sky.&nbsp; It&nbsp;appeared to be way&nbsp;out over the Pacific Ocean.&nbsp; The flame trail was clearly visible and orange. The object itself was covered in green flames.&nbsp;&nbsp; Did anyone else happen to catch this event?&nbsp; If so, what was it?&nbsp; A giant rock?&nbsp; A satillite? Perhaps made of copper since it was burning with green flames?&nbsp;Thanks for your time.Don <br />Posted by UTS_D</DIV><br /><br />The North American Meteor Network has received 2 other reports of this event so far.</p><p>It most likely was a large meteor, since no reentries of man made debris were expected at that time.</p><p>If you can, please fill out the NAMN fireball report form to add to our knowledge!</p><p>http://www.namnmeteors.org/fireball/namnreport.html</p><p>Meteor Wayne</p><p>Writer, NAMN Notes</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The North American Meteor Network has received 2 other reports of this event so far.It most likely was a large meteor, since no reentries of man made debris were expected at that time.If you can, please fill out the NAMN fireball report form to add to our knowledge!http://www.namnmeteors.org/fireball/namnreport.htmlMeteor WayneWriter, NAMN Notes <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /><br />Cool!&nbsp; Yeah, I'll go fill out the report.&nbsp; I really wish I had a video camera at the time, but I guess you can't really plan these kinda things.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>thanks for your help.</p><p>&nbsp;Don</p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Cool!&nbsp; Yeah, I'll go fill out the report.&nbsp; I really wish I had a video camera at the time, but I guess you can't really plan these kinda things.&nbsp;thanks for your help.&nbsp;Don <br />Posted by UTS_D</DIV><br /><br />The general Murphy's Law of the Universe is that if you had a camera, you wouldn't have seen it, just as an experienced meteor observer such as myself will never see such an event. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>BTW, if anyone should ever be so inclined to real the monthly NAMN Notes, they are here:</p><p>http://www.namnmeteors.org/namnnotes2008.html</p><p>It's a bit technical for the lay audience, but has some alleged value for the meteor observer.</p><p>To learn more about meteor observing, start at the NAMN home page:</p><p>http://www.namnmeteors.org/</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p>Just an update, so far between the AMS (Amereican Meteor Society) and the NAMN, there are 24 reports of this fireball.</p><p>I will do some analysis and post the results here.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Just an update, so far between the AMS (Amereican Meteor Society) and the NAMN, there are 24 reports of this fireball.I will do some analysis and post the results here. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Wow MW you rock!&nbsp; I did not know there was an AMS or NAMN.&nbsp; Cool.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I was fortunate to see a fairly large event, 20 yrs ago or so.&nbsp; It was large enough chunks came off.&nbsp; At the time it was a even a little scary.</p><p>2 places you would love to visit:</p><p>Cape Lookout NC, darkest sky I've ever seen.</p><p>Table Rock NC,&nbsp; also very dark (middle of Linville Gorge wilderness) but it is a peak, so the city lights though in the distance, are visible and hurt the horizon visibility.&nbsp; Laying on back looking straight up "priceless".</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I look forward to your analysis of the CA event.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p> <font color="#0000ff">                           www.watchnasatv.com</font></p><p>                          ONE PERCENT FOR NASA! </p> </div>
 
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<p>Wow, that's amazing! I'm guessing around these days most meteors will be happening around the Pacific Coast for now. I'm hoping maybe I'll see one one day, here in the east coast! The thing is when in usual times you spot a meteorite, you usually don't have a camera and can't&nbsp;capture it at that moment, the amazing details you can see. But I wonder, where do you think the meteor's location was headed for? I'm really hoping it didn't hit an area were people live, just a deserted place. But then again, I'm sure whoever found the meteor's hole has taken a picture of it! Good luck on maybe seeing a next one! =)</p><p>Mystical_Midnight</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Wow, that's amazing! I'm guessing around these days most meteors will be happening around the Pacific Coast for now. I'm hoping maybe I'll see one one day, here in the east coast! The thing is when in usual times you spot a meteorite, you usually don't have a camera and can't&nbsp;capture it at that moment, the amazing details you can see. But I wonder, where do you think the meteor's location was headed for? I'm really hoping it didn't hit an area were people live, just a deserted place. But then again, I'm sure whoever found the meteor's hole has taken a picture of it! Good luck on maybe seeing a next one! =)Mystical_Midnight <br />Posted by Mystical_Midnight</DIV></p><p>Bright meteors (Fireballs or Bolides) can occur anywhere, why would you think the west coast is preferred. I'm just curious why you would think that, so I can correct the perception. My calling is to educate...I love it! <br /><br />Well, as is usual with inexperienced meteor observers, the path is all over the place. Very few people actually know where north is, and what is 30 degrees or 60 degrees elevation. Even most astronomers, or other "experts" such as pilots or cops. Even more so, because they assume they are always right. <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /></p><p>Part of the analysis process is assessing the suspected accuracy of the data, and what makes the most sense. For example, even the time listed for this event (which is undoubtedly all the same spectacular one) range from 2320 to 0015 PDT. In reality it lasted 5 or 10 seconds, yet the reports span almost an hour. </p><p>Most people don't understand the importance (or have the means and experience) to record accurate data. Most don't know that if there is a sound it can be 5 or 6 minutes later. So I have to look at the totality of the observations and make some intelligent judgement.</p><p>The good news is there are a few fireball cameras on the west coast, so we may be able to get some irrefutable data to use as a baseline...but so far none of those sites have reported anything yet.</p><p>If anyone reading this wants to learn what is important, take a look at the fireball reporting form, and see what you need to&nbsp;record. Learn how high the north star is at your latitude (It is your latitude, for example I'm at 41 north, so the north star is at 41 degrees elevation) and where it is, so you can judge elevation, and at least know where north is wherever you are.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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Copper isn't needed to explain the green colour; it can be caused by the ionisation of oxygen in the atmosphere. Copper is very rare in meteors; oxygen is very common in the atmosphere. So I would tend to think that green meteors are caused by oxygen ionisation in most cases. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>http://orionsarm.com  http://thestarlark.blogspot.com/</p> </div>
 
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