A CIVILIZATION on MARS? 1B/200M Years Ago? (Pt. 4)

[maxtheknife]

Well, you say 'fit' is a relative term. I say it isn't. We used available data to determine the most likely anchor points. Nobody had a problem with the decision.<br /><br />I'm saying if you want to try the AOC geometry model w/ the pentagon realigned, go ahead. That's perfectly acceptable. Let's see what happens to the model. I think the question is, what is the most likely position of this supposed pentagonal pyramid? So far, I'm liking our model better than RCH's. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

[telfrow]

And here's the area with (approximate) 20 degree angles indicated...there are more. I just got tired of doing it. I imagine, if we saw it through to the end and connected all the lines, we could build a pentagon in there somewhere <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Well, you say 'fit' is a relative term. I say it isn't. We used available data to determine the most likely anchor points. Nobody had a problem with the decision. </font><br /><br />And I still don't have a problem with it. I'm satisfied with it. It throws off the alignment by five degrees...and that throws everything else in the geometric model off by five degrees as well. <br /><br />I'm just saying that a true "fit" on only one of the angles is not enough to "confirm" anything....there's too much open to "extrapolation." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Just thought I'd briefly interrupt:<br /><br />Norman H. Horowitz, 90, Explorer of Mars, Dies<br /><br />By WARREN E. LEARY <br />June 4, 2005<br /><br />Dr. Norman H. Horowitz, a biologist and geneticist who did pioneering work in biochemical synthesis and designed experiments that looked for life on Mars, died Wednesday at his home in Pasadena, Calif. He was 90. <br /><br />Full Story <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[centsworth_II]

RE: Data Weasel<br /><font color="yellow">"...there will be considerable misunderstandings. I doubt the term will catch on."</font><br /><br />Right. Collection of, and analysis and interpretation of data are highly regarded activities in the science world. However the term "weasel" is applied to humans to denote negative attributes. Maybe data hounds seek a "bad boy" image which the ferocity of the weasel, would give. Unfortunately, ferocity is not what springs to mind when one is described as being a weasel.<br /><br />Maybe there is a better term for those who enjoy collecting, analysing and interpreting data.<br /><br />How about <b>Data Hog</b>? Nope. Still too negative.<br /><b>Data Fox</b>? Implies and intelligent use of data, but still smacks of slyness in a negative sense.<br />Or, the afore mentioned <b>Data Hound</b>, <b>Data Dog</b> or, better yet, <b>Data Dawg</b>? Implies use of data in service to mankind. The whole "man's best friend" thing. Data analysists could greet each other, "Yo! What up dawg?"<br /><b>Data Elephant</b>? Good memory is very desirable in a data analyst, but the term is a little unwieldy. It doesn't slip easily off the tounge.<br /><b>Data Snake</b>? Poetic, but no!<br /><br /><br />Moving away from amimal monikers. How about <b>Dataphyle</b>? Members could wear tee shirts that proudly state "I (heart) Data".<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Data Hound....How about Dataphyle?</font><br /><br />I like them both. But here's another idea...when most people think of individuals who enjoy collecting, analyzing and interpreting data, they think of nerds. So....how about <b>The Nerd Herd</b>? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[yevaud]

You Data-Dawg, you!<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Data Dawg. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> It does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[centsworth_II]

<font color="yellow">The Nerd Herd?</font><br /><br />Hmmmmm... I suppose the determination of whether "nerd" is negative is verrry subjective.<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Yes, and when it's time to go hunt some data down, we can set you to it with the cry, "Release the Hounds!"<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Forget The Nerd Herd. I'd have to buy a pocket protector. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />"Data Dawgs" is much better. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[centsworth_II]

There's McGruff, the crime dog. How about Newton, the data dawg? I see a kids' show here, introducing kids to the wonderful world of data collection. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Arf!<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

How about this for the t-shirt?<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[centsworth_II]

<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />The kids will love it. Just what we need to get science education back on track. Data can be fun! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobw]

I saved that picture in case this place ever gets avatars. (not intended to be avatar advocacy, just a funny thought) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Well, it just goes to show that I have <b>way</b> too much free time on my hands. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[yevaud]

<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br />I love it! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

Gentlemen,<br /><br />Your new unit patches are in....<br /><br /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Hell, I *am* SDC "Old Guard."<br /><br />It doesn't pay squat, but I believe we get to wear those old military uniforms, with the bear fur shako's, and carry ceremonial swords. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

What are the criteria? I joined about a year before the "great crash," and have been posting ever since. That's - what? - two plus years? But I am <b>old</b>....do I qualify? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[maxtheknife]

That's a pretty good example, Telfrow... Keep going.... That's what I was after when you posted this image.

 

[yevaud]

I suppose that if you were around for people like Yale, PLC, Llovingo, Harmonicaman, Stickhippie, et al, then you qualify. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[telfrow]

I remember Llovingo, I think. But maybe I should just start off as a Junior Data Dawg and work my way up to Old Guard. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[telfrow]

Hey Max... a "heads up!"<br /><br />Mission to Mars is on the SciFi Channel...<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>