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[jtkirk1701]

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[cello]

that's our point of view. you will be surprised that most people consider dog perfumery more important than a vessel. and can't catch an idea, why to go to space. or even look up. unfortunately, we are not majority.

 

[spacefire]

and we'll call that vessel...Enterprise? <br />Right, captain Kirk? <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>

 

[jtkirk1701]

enterprise? i don't know what they would name it. china is on <br />move. when everybody has rockets, we should have vessels of some kind that move and work in space. they talk about sending four astronaunts to the moon. eventually they will have to have more than four on the moon. there may also be others there from other countries. so with everyone flying about in space if feel we should stay a jump ahead.

 

[gulcrapek]

There's a company, I forgot which, which is developing I think a launch vehicle and has long term plans for an "Odyssey class" vessel to be assembled in space...

 

[qso1]

It all faces one insurmountable obstacle...what I call the cost barrier. A barrier tougher than the sound barrier, the man on the moon barrier, maybe even the speed of light barrier. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[jtkirk1701]

cost is true. think of this ...you build a vessel that could carry or push or pull a large amount of wieght. Be able to slow it <br />down and put it into orbit and unload it or place it on the surface....then reload what ever may need to come back. they say there is enought rigolif on the surface of the moon to concret the planet earth conpletely. the H3 molecule seems to be of intrest. and of course the tourist industry is bitting at the bit. to get it started usually takes a government push. while the russa, china, japan, the esa......build rockets to just visit the moon and beyound. we can make sure that when they get there they can stay at our motels or spacetels? america is ready to move into space not just visit space.<br />

 

[qso1]

On building a vessel:<br />The Saturn-V was what it took to get 3 men, a CSM and LM to the moon for landing. A total of about 45 tons. The Saturn could put 100 tons give or take a few to LEO.<br /><br />Of course, if you launched 35 Saturn-Vs with base equipment and crews to the moon, including some kind of return vehicle, technically doable but costly. And keep in mind, the cost barrier is a barrier that was put up by the public (With much media assistance) and politicians who want a share of the government pie for their interests.<br /><br />This is about the best give or take a few tons that we can do with chemical rockets with one exception.<br /><br />Getting to LEO. If private enterprise is able to crack the cost barrier at LEO, the rest can fall like the proverbial dominoes. Getting to LEO is the worst part of the cost equation.<br /><br />Spacetels, good play on words...I called them Orbitels in a graphic novel I wrote. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>My borrowed quote for the time being:</strong></p><p><em>There are three kinds of people in life. Those who make it happen, those who watch it happen...and those who do not know what happened.</em></p> </div>

 

[jtkirk1701]

so building expendalbe ships to get to the moon and is guess reusable ships to get back from the moon is cost effective?<br />are they not at this time building the larger rockets. could not the vessel be assembled in space. they are building 2 space ports one in new mexico and the other in dubi. in 2008 you can orbit the earth 6 times for 200,000 dollars. onece the vessel is ready cargo could be shot into space in spall amount. also could you not build a good size complex in space tow it to the moon and then lower it to the moon? <br />i got one more crazy question....could a vessel get into a syncranised orbit and lower what it has brought to the surface by means of cables and thrusters being that tne moons gravityis only one 6th of earth?