Cindy Anthony (missing Caylee's grandmother) was just on Gretta Van Susteren/Fox News Channel

a_lost_packet_ · Sep 7, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You watch.. This will end up being a case of Former Cop Daddy calling in every favor he had to prevent his daughter from doing Life Without  Posted by dragon04</DIV>That's interesting.  I didn't know that.I don't follow these types of things very closely as most of what the popular media likes to focus on isn't facts but, pure speculation and sensationalism.  That doesn't make for a very interesting or even mildly entertaining problem->solution thinking process for me. We are, after all, discussing the fates of the lives of various human beings.  Speculation and fanatic sensationalim are things I find distasteful in such things.You're probably right. Daddy is going to call in every possible favor he can.  But, if they have enough evidence on her it won't matter.. or shouldn't matter.  One former cop isn't going to be able to coverup this particular case if it turns out they have enough evidence to convict.I'd like to know where these missing "players" are: The "babysitter", if she really exists, and the father.  I'd also wonder how her financials looked and if anyone has noticed her with large amounts of cash or the father or another relative having a sudden cash influx.  Selling babies isn't unheard of and despite the evidence of "decomposition" in the trunk, I'd not leave any avenue unexplored.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

coeptus · Sep 15, 2008

Unruly crowd outside Cindy's home got pretty nasty. Cindy was out running her ignorant mouth again. Tempers flared, much name calling and borderline physical assaults.    Seems to me, at some point, Judge Lynch is going to go into session and solve this mess once and for all.       <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> If not for bad Pluck, I'd have no Pluck at all . . . This is your vogon, posting under coeptus, and trying IE and Firefox to see if either is faster with fewer misloads. Erf !! </div>

starsinmyeyes44 · Oct 14, 2008

http://news.aol.com/article/mom-of-missing-girl-indicted-for-murder/211417?icid=200100397x1211489126x1200668893 Finally...they've indicted the mom for murder.  Just hope the evidence they have will hold up in court. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> In the book of life, the answers aren't in the back. Charlie Brown </div>

docm · Oct 15, 2008

And in Florida they have the death penalty and use it, often.  They also have a very short appeals process.  It's also very possible to convict without a body based on the physical evidence - decomp in the car, her DNA & hairs etc.Hopefully the mom ends up getting the needle.BTW: IIRC the baby's father died last year. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Oct 15, 2008

You know..  This whole thing is tiresome.  Every single night there are hours spent on this topic between various legal speculators on "News" channels rambling back and forth about things they couldn't possibly know using "evidence" they couldn't possibly have access to using opinions that couldn't possibly be informed.  WTF?Every... Single... Time.. something like this comes up, some news agencies want to recreate the friggin O.J. Trial.  I can't see one reason at all, none, nada, zilcho, zip, null set for the amount of blabbering yammering ingorance these people insist on yaulping across the airwaves when, in my opinion, those "news hours" could be more constructively spent presenting "news."Yeah, it's a sore spot with me.  I hate sensationalized pop-psuedo-reality-show journalism when it has absolutely no value except engendering the same appeal of driving past a train-wreck.  The depressing thing is that people do want to look and they do want to sit on their couches, munching popcorn and postulating about the unpostulatable...So, what do I do in response?  I rant about their worthless activities as if that makes me any better than they are.

GG me.  :/ <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

dragon04 · Oct 15, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You know..  This whole thing is tiresome.  Every single night there are hours spent on this topic between various legal speculators on "News" channels rambling back and forth about things they couldn't possibly know using "evidence" they couldn't possibly have access to using opinions that couldn't possibly be informed.  WTF?Every... Single... Time.. something like this comes up, some news agencies want to recreate the friggin O.J. Trial.  I can't see one reason at all, none, nada, zilcho, zip, null set for the amount of blabbering yammering ingorance these people insist on yaulping across the airwaves when, in my opinion, those "news hours" could be more constructively spent presenting "news."Yeah, it's a sore spot with me.  I hate sensationalized pop-psuedo-reality-show journalism when it has absolutely no value except engendering the same appeal of driving past a train-wreck.  The depressing thing is that people do want to look and they do want to sit on their couches, munching popcorn and postulating about the unpostulatable...So, what do I do in response?  I rant about their worthless activities as if that makes me any better than they are.

GG me.  :/ Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV>Mommy and Ex-Cop Daddy are Accessories After the Fact. Mark my words.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "2012.. Year of the Dragon!! Get on the Dragon Wagon!". </div>

vogon13 · Nov 8, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Mommy and Ex-Cop Daddy are Accessories After the Fact. Mark my words.  Posted by dragon04</DIV> "Ex-cop Daddy" is on record as saying the stench of death from the car was very apparent as he APPROACHED the car. He had a lot attendent at his side when he opened the trunk for fear of what he would find. (at this opoint he was aware granddaughter was missing, BTW)  Why he did not put his foot down and forbid Cindy from opening her ignorant farking mouth to the press is the mystery of the ages. Unbeleivable, just unbelievable craptasm.    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Nov 9, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> "Ex-cop Daddy" is on record as saying the stench of death from the car was very apparent as he APPROACHED the car. He had a lot attendent at his side when he opened the trunk for fear of what he would find. (at this opoint he was aware granddaughter was missing, BTW)  Why he did not put his foot down and forbid Cindy from opening her ignorant farking mouth to the press is the mystery of the ages. Unbeleivable, just unbelievable craptasm.    Posted by vogon13</DIV>What I want to know is this:With all this "Evidence" against her, why isn't she in prison right now?Or, could it be it's mostly just wild stabs in the dark? We have a missing kid.  A car that supposedly smells like a cadaver, some hair and reports of chloroform.  That's it.  That doesn't necessarily demand a conclusion of murder.  As crazy as that may sound, it's just the way it is."Could" she have murderd Caylee?  Darn right, she could have.  However, a murder charge isn't about proving what someone "could" have done.  It requires proof, beyond a reasonable doubt.  It requires a jury to examine the evidence presented to them and come to a decision with moral certainty that the defendent is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.O.J. was pronounced "Not Guilty" with grossly more evidence against him than this defendent has against her right now.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

vogon13 · Nov 9, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What I want to know is this:With all this "Evidence" against her, why isn't she in prison right now?She is incarcerated (AFAIK) now, awaitng trial. Or, could it be it's mostly just wild stabs in the dark? We have a missing kid. And enough inconsistent statements from the childs' primary caregiver to support a summary finding of gross neglect, at the very least.   A car that supposedly smells like a cadaverThe cadaver smell was commented upon by Caylee's grandfather, a retired cop, and one who is familiar with the smell. Caylee's grandmother was recorded saying the smell was like a dead body (she has nursing experience), and due to her recantation of that statement, I feel she is at the very least, an accessory after the fact.  Forensic testing confirmed the car had contained a human cadaver.  DNA testing of shed hair follicles, IIRC, indicates Caylee. , some hair and reports of chloroform.Chloroform was detected in car, and Casey's computer had been used to search for information on chloroform.   That's it.  That's plenty. That doesn't necessarily demand a conclusion of murder.  Casey coughing up a live kid at any time would refute the charge. As crazy as that may sound, it's just the way it is."Could" she have murderd Caylee?  Darn right, she could have.  However, a murder charge isn't about proving what someone "could" have done.  It requires proof, beyond a reasonable doubt.  I have doubts as to which means Casey Anthony employed to murder Caylee.  Burned alive ?  Manually strangled ?  Disembowled ? It requires a jury to examine the evidence presented to them and come to a decision with moral certainty that the defendent is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.Agreed   Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV>     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Nov 13, 2008

WOFL is reporting a bag(s) with bricks, a toy, and body parts has been recovered.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Nov 13, 2008

Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla hired divers to check out a lead.  Bones found are small, 2 1/2 inches long, one or more bags found. FBI on scene.  More toys discovered.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Nov 13, 2008

No confirmation yet on any of this.  Media is descending on the scene. Remains have been alternately described as bones or fingers and toes.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Nov 13, 2008

<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/5/28071102-e5c7-47f4-b5d2-a507e05fbb2a.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> Leonard Padilla    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Nov 15, 2008

And now Padilla is being investigated for perpetrating a hoax . . .    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Nov 15, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> And now Padilla is being investigated for perpetrating a hoax . . .    Posted by vogon13</DIV>Any links to info on that? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

vogon13 · Nov 15, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Any links to info on that? Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> From WFTV.com:<h1 class="Headline">Padilla Agrees To Polygraph Test As Search Resumes</h1>Friday, November 14, 2008 – updated: 10:17 am EST November 14, 2008ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The search for Caylee Anthony's remains got underway once again at Blanchard Park in East Orange County on Friday morning. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is heading the search with a team of volunteer divers even though he's facing an FBI lie detector test . . .    My take:  FBI doesn't polygraph on whims, Padilla is suspected of being up to sumthin'.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Nov 15, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> From WFTV.com

adilla Agrees To Polygraph Test As Search ResumesFriday, November 14, 2008 – updated: 10:17 am EST November 14, 2008ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The search for Caylee Anthony's remains got underway once again at Blanchard Park in East Orange County on Friday morning. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla is heading the search with a team of volunteer divers even though he's facing an FBI lie detector test . . .    My take:  FBI doesn't polygraph on whims, Padilla is suspected of being up to sumthin'.   Posted by vogon13</DIV>I remember seeing a blurb as I was flipping through channels regarding someone finding a bag with toys and possible bones in it in a body of water.  There was some guy yapping about how he had just side-scan sonar'd the entire area and could tell you how big a particular rock was in there.  He seemed to be complaining that there was no way that bag was in the water before the search began, or something like that.I didn't watch much of it because Nancy Grace was busy hamming it up for the cameras and I started to get nauseous.  After all, she's the one who seems to be giving this guy the most airtime out of anyone... just to get ratings.I hope he turns out to be a fraud and Nancy gets lambasted by someone for constantly giving this guy face-time on television.  All she does is make money off of human misery.  What's worse, even though some would say Lawyers do the same thing, she's not doing it for any client except herself.Anyway, does that jive with the possibilities surrounding his lie-detector test - That he planted this evidence? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

vogon13 · Dec 11, 2008

HWGA ?? Fox is reporting a set of remains in plastic bag and duct tape has been discovered near the Anthony home in a vacant lot. Size appears consist with the missing kid.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Dec 11, 2008

Dr. Baden has expounded on how much critical evidence might be preserved in the tape.  We could still have a good chance for conclusive forensic evidence. They also report body was found by utility worker using foilage for a bathroom break.  He saw the plastic and a a skull rolled out . . .  Ewwww. {the vacant lot looks like Dagobah, BTW}     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

docm · Dec 11, 2008

ABC NEWS story....IF this is Caylee I hope her mom ends up at the sharp end of a needle.Quote:Skull of a Young Child Found Near Home of Caylee Anthony's GrandparentsPolice: Child's Remains Belong to Missing Caylee Anthony Is 'an Assumption'<div class="dek"> Orange County police today declared the Orlando home of Casey Anthony an "active crime scene" after the skull of a young child was discovered this morning in a wooded area close by. Police speculate that the remains could be those of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, Casey Anthony's daughter. ."It is within close proximity, so there's always that assumption," Carlos Padilla of the Orange County Sheriff's Office told ABC News. "But right now it's just an assumption. "If we feel the need to go into [the house], we will get a search warrant," he said. Watch the Caylee Anthony story tonight on "Nightline" at 11:35 p.m. ET. More Friday on "Good Morning America" and "20/20." Sheriff Kevin Berry said in a news conference today that he did not know of any other missing children in the area it could be but it is "always a possibility." Orange County Sheriff's Office spokesman Jim Solomons said, "Everyone's going to be real quick to connect the dots back to the Anthony case but we're not prepared to do that at this time." The area around the remains, swarmed by more than two dozen officials including FBI agents, was searched by police previously but had been flooded at the time. The remains fell from a bag that was found at about 9:30 a.m. by an Orlando utility worker who reported it to authorities. >></div> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vogon13 · Dec 13, 2008

Wonder if that poor kid was alert/awake as her mom put the duct tape on her mouth . . . . I can also imagine hearing Cindy say the following to Casey: What do you need with all that duct tape and those plastic bags ??    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

docm · Dec 13, 2008

That's presuming Cindy wasn't in on it from the start as an accomplice.  Would explain some of her irrational behavior. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vogon13 · Dec 13, 2008

I have been strongly suspicious of Cindy being an accessory after the fact. I might be leaning towards Cindy realizing her lax parenting and unjustified defense of all Casey's lapses since childhood have resulted in the death of her granddaughter.Maybe not an offense to be prosecuted for (drat!), but something I sincerely hope Cindy has enormous difficulty in living with.  FWIW, I am thinking Cindy is a 'nutjob', but Casey is an unfeeling (towards others) narcissistic pathological liar.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Dec 19, 2008

From the 'lead up' just on Fox, I think we are getting a major announcement on the case at the top of the hour.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

vogon13 · Dec 19, 2008

Also, in the interests of justice, how about we depose Cindy Anthony for hours and hours, till she slips up (either due to guilt or fatigue) and then throw her worthless ass in jail too, for perjury, if nothing else ??     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> TPTB went to Dallas and all I got was Plucked !!So many people, so few recipes !!Let's clean up this stinkhole !! </div>

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