I am virtually appalled.<br /><br />And I mean that for real. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
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I LOVE Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home. I remember saying to a friend as we left the theater in 1986; "They'll never make a movie as good as that again" and I think that was true. Although "First Contact" was a very good film, it is "Generations" that always has an emotional impact for me -- A very good friend of mine became ill and died within DAYS of seeing it with me and other friends. I always think of Paul James when I watch "Generations". <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>One Percent of Federal Funding For Space: America <strong><em><u>CAN</u></em></strong> Afford it!! LEO is a <strong><em>Prison</em></strong> -- It's time for a <em><strong>JAILBREAK</strong></em>!!</p> </div>
"The Wrath of Khan" was easily my favorite Star Trek movie <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />. The "suicidal" training exercise the Kirk was the only person to have ever beaten...Khan had the best lines of any villian in the Star Trek series..and like your just stated, the "feeling old" (throwing away his broken glasses) . It was a great movie, whether you are a fan of Star Trek or not.
<font color="yellow">and I loved it how Picard had really met his match in this woman, and the fact that she managed to shake him up enough to change his mind." </font><br /><br />Great scene...<br /><br />"... and I.... will make them PAY for what they've done!"<br /><br />
Another good scene..<br /><br />Search for spock. Kirks son has just been killed by the Klingons on the planet surface. Upon learning this, Kirk backs up and stumbles to the floor in front of his captains chair. <br /><br /> "You Klingon b*%^*#@ you've killed my son"
Kirk wouldn't have put up with that nonsense. He would have seduced her and then kicked Borg ass. And then he would have seduced her again.
He would have seduced the Borg queen too, and then she would become confused and all the Borg everywhere would self destruct.<br /><br />Kirk is the Austin Powers of space.<br />
Speaking of ST-4, there was a scene in the pick-up truck between Kirk and the girl about Spock. The lines went something like, Don't mind him, he's done a little to much LDS!! Now that is funny when you think that those initials stand for Later Day Saints of the Mormons!<br /><br />That was what my mind picked up on there.
ST-4 is absolutely chock full of little gems like that. What makes that movie so much fun -- besides the "time-traveller fish-out-of-water" humor -- is the very obvious delight in all the cast. They all clearly had a grand time making this one. A delightful little romp.<br /><br />I love the scene towards the end when the Norwegian whalers fire their harpoon, but it bounces off the wing of the cloaked Bird of Prey (which oddly isn't creating any wind or noise or anything; damn those cloaking devices are good!). Then it decloaks and they make an immediate about-turn.... It's very funny.<br /><br />I also liked Kirk's evident embarassment as he watches, unable to intervene, as Spock mind-melds with Gracie. Again, a very well-played scene. Shatner gets a bad rap for his acting at times, but he's got superb comic timing. I think he's best when he's playing for laughs. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em> -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
Is that the one that Spock directed? He seemed quite good at bringing out the best in his actors.
You sure that wasn't South Park?<br />After all, Kenny looked like an astronaut! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
<font color="orange">Kirk is the Austin Powers of space.</font><br /><br />(Pistolpete doing a Kirk impression, and a damn fine one I might add.)<br /><br />I... shagged her rotten, baby.... Shagged... her rotten.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
That...was....very....good<br />Just think what they could have done with those storylines, and what we can see in TV and movies now.<br /><br />WhooooHOOOOOO <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
my favourite episodes from STTNG are here:<br /><br />http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4035<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />
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<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>http://asteroid-invasion.blogspot.com</p><p>http://www.solvengineer.com/asteroid-invasion.html </p><p> </p> </div>ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />Seriously, that is the funniest thing ever.<br /><br /><br /><br />Modulating the subject a tad, what I reall want to know about starfleet is where are the enlisted personell?. The US Navy has enlisted personell operating nuclear reactors on submarines, so why is the holodeck janitorial technicial an officer when, in the Navy, they would use a seaman to clean... uh... well... uh... anyway, my point being where are the enlisted people in Star Trek? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Modulating the subject a tad, what I reall want to know about starfleet is where are the enlisted personell?. The US Navy has enlisted personell operating nuclear reactors on submarines, so why is the holodeck janitorial technicial an officer when, in the Navy, they would use a seaman to clean... uh... well... uh... anyway, my point being where are the enlisted people in Star Trek?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />I've read that this has something to do with the way Gene Roddenberry envisioned Starfleet in the beginning. Just as the culture was egalitarian, so too was the military. When I read this, it was just one stray remark in an unrelated article, so I haven't had any luck finding it again. I found something else, though, that might be linked -- when TNG began and Gene once again had creative control, he decided to make Starfleet as "un-military" as possible.<br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>so why is the holodeck janitorial technicial an officer when, in the Navy, they would use a seaman to clean... uh... well... uh... anyway, my point being where are the enlisted people in Star Trek?<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />To quote something I read on a Trek forum -- "This is a starship. What toilet?"<br /><br /><br />Regarding favorite scenes...<br /><br />- the "Row, Row, Row your Boat" scene from Final Frontier saves that movie for me. Particularly "I am sorry, doctor. Were we having fun?"<br /><br />- Star Trek IV -- one long collection of favorite scenes.<br />- Same for TUC. <br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <em>"Those who dwell among the beauties and mysteries of the earth are never alone or weary of life." - <strong>Rachel Carson</strong></em> </div>
All those yeomen and the dudes roaming the halls were enlisted. I am confident most of the sercurity guys that got snuffed on away missions were SPCs
Great. <i>I</i> was a Spec. 5.<br /><br />Fortunately, they didn't make me wear a red shirt. I kinda would have stood out in all that green. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
Holy crap, you must be old as dirt. I thought they did away with SPC-5 back in the early 70s. lol<br /><br />I was a "buck sgt" on AD with the USAF. They did away with that rank several years ago as well.
He's not old as dirt.<br />Humus and peat maybe, but not dirt. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
<font color="orange">when TNG began and Gene once again had creative control, he decided to make Starfleet as "un-military" as possible. </font><br /><br />Well, the Enterprise sure was heavily armed for a non-military starship. <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /><br /><br />Anyway, Roddenberry was a true hippy when it came to his vision of the future. Unfortunatly, cold hard reality comes crashing into the side of it at about 90 mph like a freight train on a car that's stalled out on the tracks. I don't care how egalitarian the future is, there will need to be some sort of chain of command. With a thousand-or-so odd people on the Enterprise you will need some enlisted guy with a GED to do the dirty work (I don't care how far into the future it is, there will allways be dirty work). And, of course you will need the most critical eliment in any military-based chain of command: NCOs (Non-Commisioned Officers, aka Sergents, Petty Officers, ect.) to find the dirty work for the prvates/seamen/airmen/crewmen/whatever to do. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><em>So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.</em></p><p><strong>-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai</strong></p> </div>
No, 77-83. I understand they eliminated the Sp5 and above after that. Something like that.<br /><br />"Old as dirt."<br /><br />Damnit Top, don't say that &%$#@! to me! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
I came in in 84 and don't remeber ever seeing a Spec-5. The only way I know about em is because I read about it in a military history class
One of my teachers at the ADA school was a Spec. 7, just getting ready to retire. I suppose If I had stayed in, my next promotion would have been to a hard-stripe E-6. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>
Memory is getting fuzzy, what was the reason for the distinction between Spec-5,6,7 and the NCO of equivalent grade? What determined whether you became Spec-5 instead of SGT?
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