From a drop of water....

[Atlan0001]

Ad #625:

It's always tough reversing, turning, that "inverse square law" end for end, inside-out and outside-in!

It's always tough reversing, turning, 'time' end for end, inside-out and outside-in!

For every action forward, there is always an equal, opposite, reaction rearward (backward)! And vice-versa!

For every closing (contraction, compaction, concentration, implosion) there is always an equal, opposite, opening (expansion, scattering, spreading out, explosion), somewhere around in something! And vice-versa!

 

[Atlan0001]

It's a wonder sometimes how many can't put (+1) and (-1) together to make binary base2's '0' and/or '1' plus/minus (+/-) the Trojan.

The eternal superposition constant of "Infinite MULTIVERSE Universe (U)"....
equals
The eternal superposition constant point (T=1) of 'infinite density of Big Crunch', aka "quantum fluctuation"....
equals
The eternal superposition constant point (T=1) of infinite Abyss, Void, Vacuum, Aether, aka "quantum fluctuation"....
equals
The eternal superposition constant totality of all mass and energy (totals zero) ....
equals
The eternally collapsed cosmological (superposition) constant (/\) Planck (Big Bang) 'Mirror Horizon' (T=1) of an infinity of horizon universes (u) (horizon universes in entangling concurrent REALTIME NOW instant (t=0) // EMERGENT SPACE) ....
equals
The infinite 'Nothingness' and 'Nowhereland' that is the "['Nothing at all!'] that is inside/outside the finite local relativity of light's coordinate point past-future ((t=+1) (t=-1)) histories' SPACETIME of the finite 'observable universe' (u)" (that is inside/outside a quantum-discrete quanta of "Verse" (aka, meaning, "Turn," and/or, "Turning")).

Oh well.
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"From a drop of water, a logician could infer the possibility of an Atlantic or a Niagara without having seen or heard of one or the other...." 'Sherlock Holmes: A Study in Scarlet', by Arthur Canon Doyle.

 

[Atlan0001]

Had to bring this over from elsewhere because it squares with posts from #625 . . . minimally:

The simplest, oldest, diagramming illustration of an 'Infinite MULTIVERSE Universe (U)' is still this one, G=1!

Gravitational constant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'There will never be the vectoring direction and magnitude of 'One World' without two . . . and/or "many" . . . worlds!
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"I am 'matter' (+)! You are antimatter (-)!"
"No! I am matter (+)! You are antimatter (-)!"
"No way! I am matter (+/-)! You are antimatter (-/+)!"
"Get it through your own thick skull, I am matter (+/-)! You are antimatter (+/-)!"
"YOU get it through YOUR thick skull, I am matter (-/+)! You are antimatter (-/+)!"
Opposites attract? Likes repel? (G=1) (asymptote 0-g, and/or, 1-g (n-g)).
Then there is the Trojan, "Schrodinger's Cat" (asymptote: both entangling (unity (one)) and neither entangled (null unity (many)))!

 

[Atlan0001]

Ad #628 ("MULTIVERSE") from elsewhere (to include Heisenberg's "Uncertainty" and Schrodinger's "Cat"):

We each "carry our 'observable universe' with us" (-- Catastrophe). Thus, so does our local world, our local star system, our local galaxy, our local universe, in all individualities (all quantum-discrete quanta) at every vector level of local relativity (light's coordinate points past-future ((t=+1) (t=-1)) histories' SPACETIME), carry its "observable universe" (spaces, times, positions, velocities, masses, energies, directions, magnitudes, ...., what have you of 'Infinite MULTIVERSE Universe') with it.

And, just in case you didn't notice, it's what's at the exact center point of every hyper-spherical "observable universe" bubble.

 

[Catastrophe]

Our only 'observable universe' was our local world.

Cat

 

[Atlan0001]

Our only 'observable universe' was our local world.

Cat

Damnit, Cat! You're leaving me no 'space'! for argument!

You still may not be realizing it but you gave me a second way to see self-similar fractal zooms structure of universe (as countless many individually independent fractal zooms structures, bubbles, as well as Chaos Theory's stepped levels of structure. You made me realize it can be thought of either way and [un-rigidly] both ways at the same time. NOT only "observable universes (u)" but (quantum entangling / tunnel linked) universes (u), period.

 

[Atlan0001]

Differing approaches. Differing physics. Arriving at exactly the same self-similar fractal zooms structure of universe . . . most especially including the "Set and reset (strong force, Casimir force, effected) to the base of fundamental binary base2 alternative horizons of "smooth" (Planck heat) and "coarse grain chunky" (cold, also, at once, the universes' time reversal engine generator of "Planck heat").
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Klein bottle:

Klein bottle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Mobius strip:

Möbius strip - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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‘Entropy Bagels’ and Other Complex Structures Emerge From Simple Rules | Quanta Magazine

Simple rules in simple settings continue to puzzle mathematicians, even as they devise intricate tools to analyze them.

www.quantamagazine.org

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Newton's third law of motion:

Science in Action: Newton’s Third Law of Motion

Last time, we took a look at Newton’s second law. This week, we are investigating his third law and how it can be applied to rocket launches.

spacecenter.org

 

[Atlan0001]

Ahem!

Scientists Built a Radical Information Engine That Harnesses Molecular Energy

The machine works by manipulating particles in a water bath to generate usable power.

www.popularmechanics.com

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"Brevity may be the soul of wit but repetition is the heart of instruction." -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

 

[Catastrophe]

Atlan, yp #631. if you would like it expressed more concisely :
Until recently, mankind was limited to planet Earth. Therefore it would be mandatory (during such time) that our locus of observation (with limited variations around one's location on planet Earth's surface), or not far distant therefrom, that, we could use "our" to apply to any inhabitant of planet Earth.

With the advent of space travel this, of course, would have to be modified, for any observer distant from "Earth" (as suggested in the above paragraph) by defining any alternative location of said observer.

Cat

 

[Atlan0001]

This gets kind of rough and messy for some (maybe), so try to bear with me (as I see it) if you are willing:

The universal grand total of mass and/or energy equals zero.

There is the matter universe (+) and always sharing the same space and time with it, the [joined-at-the-hip] "mirrored identical" twin anti-matter universe (-).

"Big 'G' (G=1 (its Planck unit)).

Gravitational constant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(('|') "mirror")
(m(e)=mass(energy) (positive (+)) | negative / anti (-)))
((+n)m | (-n)m) = '0'm(e) = (n)'g' ("little 'g'").
((+1)m | (-1)m) ='0'm(e) = (1)'g' ("little 'g'").

Thus, "zero-'g'" is a fairy-tale result constant alternative to an infinitely-incalculable "infinitesimal-'g'."
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"To be continued....maybe!" -- Atlan0001

 

[Catastrophe]

Atlan, Of course I will try to bear with you, but, to be honest, I do find much of what you post unfamiliar, and difficult to understand. Do you any (reasonable amount) of literature I could bone up on (= study)?

Cat

 

[Atlan0001]

This gets kind of rough and messy for some (maybe), so try to bear with me (as I see it) if you are willing:

The universal grand total of mass and/or energy equals zero.

There is the matter universe (+) and always sharing the same space and time with it, the [joined-at-the-hip] "mirrored identical" twin anti-matter universe (-).

"Big 'G' (G=1 (its Planck unit)).

Gravitational constant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(('|') "mirror")
(m(e)=mass(energy) (positive (+)) | negative / anti (-)))
((+n)m | (-n)m) = '0'm(e) = (n)'g' ("little 'g'").
((+1)m | (-1)m) ='0'm(e) = (1)'g' ("little 'g'").

Thus, "zero-'g'" is a fairy-tale result constant alternative to an infinitely-incalculable "infinitesimal-'g'."
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"To be continued....maybe!" -- Atlan0001

Now, 'g' ("little 'g') means "gravity" always being RELATIVE (in vector's directions and magnitudes . . . in self-similar fractal zooms structure of universe (such as the asymptote -- yet inverse squaring -- breadth and depth of the 'Mandelbrot Set')), NOT ABSOLUTE / NEVER ABSOLUTE!

 

[Atlan0001]

Atlan, Of course I will try to bear with you, but, to be honest, I do find much of what you post unfamiliar, and difficult to understand. Do you any (reasonable amount) of literature I could bone up on (= study)?

Cat

Sorry, Cat, I can't do what you ask. Along with 'history', it is based on forty years of reading, studying, and just thinking, regularly on physics and cosmology, plus seventy-plus years off and on interest since I was a young child. All of it is also based on my nature as a lifelong "intuitive visual mathematician." I do naturally, and in natural practice sharpening it, what Hawking said was the [bitterly] "difficult," I think in more dimensions of complexity and chaos than one or two ("****! How is you constantly jump into (manure) and come up smelling like a rose?!" -- *****) ("****! Why is it you work on staff here when you should be teaching here?!" -- *****).

Except in the necessary detail of my first career discipline (to keep it), I was never one for the formulaic of my interests or otherwise! I've apparently absorbed some kind in outline herein after forty years of simple interest, though, without trying.

So again, sorry, Cat, no can do (other than what I see in all the pointers and quotes throughout my posts as I go (including quoting you upon occasion), that is). It is just who and what I am and always have been (I see it, the picture, then try to work the detail of the picture out as much as I can (but only if am interested enough to do so . . . being known to be "too indolent" when not interested in detail -- again, particularly "formulaic detail" -- enough! I've discovered the 'pointers' to generally do that detailing well enough, mostly, for me)).

 

[Catastrophe]

Atlan, no worries. I understand.

Cat

 

[Atlan0001]

Once more: "Brevity is the soul of with but repetition is the heart of instruction."

It is still difficult to believe the standard physicist who has never done long range shooting at a moving target where you have to lead the target at ranges lengthening out in order to have any possibility of hitting it.

Planet A is 50-light years from Planet B. According to observer A on planet A the current year is 1050CE. Traveler A is preparing for a fast interstellar trip to planet B. What is his observable starting year relative to planet B . . . NOT his home planet A? 1050CE or 1000CE?

It is 1000CE and I've never read that it would be -50 years from Einstein, or Hawking, or any other of the physicists I've read or seen in videos in my life time. Their starting point has always been 1050CE, the planet A year point, and just coincidentally the unobserved dark universe planet B entangling concurrent REALTIME NOW (t=0) instant (1050CE). Thus, traveler A will deal in a point triangle of planet A point 1050CE, observed planet B point 1000CE, and dark universe planet B point 1050CE.

The traveler A, beginning from home planet A point 1050CE, is going to have to get from planet B point 1000CE (observed), to dark universe planet B point 1050CE plus the local (to the ship) clock-time . . . whether hours, days, weeks, months, or years past concurrent 1050CE times for both planets at the beginning of Traveler A's start from home.

If the voyage takes one week ship's time, that will be fifty years plus one week observed travel by a traveler who will observe himself to have aged one week. He will also observe a home world sun to do time reversal toward a distant Event Horizon of universe that will amount to fifty years worth of time reversal in light's coordinate point past histories' SPACETIME ("For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction")!

Which planet had to move lightening fast . . . and I mean LIGHTENING FAST . . . through the curvature of time to contract, shrink, the triangle in on itself and catch up to REALTIME NOW (t=0)? Light's coordinate point past histories' SPACETIME Planet B (observed)!

For the traveler's return trip, simply reverse directions. The rest holds to the same.

 

[Atlan0001]

Once more:

Our own Solar Systemic planets have been observed to reverse course temporarily in their orbits as Earth passes, before reversing course again and resuming their normal direction of orbit. It's an optical illusion that would, and must, apply big time regarding interstellar travel and the interstellar travelers in the above #640.