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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp; We add electricity to a magnetic object and it becomes magnetic.&nbsp; <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>Careful your wording could awaken Hans Christian Oersted, who may just rise from his grave to smite you.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Okay, so theoretical question time. &nbsp; &nbsp; I have a timer whos sync is kept by the deterioration of Uranium. &nbsp; I have a box, within this box is placed a cat. &nbsp; The cat is strapped to SMUDS industrial grid with no load shedding protection.&nbsp; At a designated time kept by the Uranium timer, the bus bar braker will engage.&nbsp; </p><p>Now heres the question...neglecting hysteresis of the cat and other losses from the line to cat circuit, at what time will the cat become an electro magnet? &nbsp; If we add more fetid dead fish and caribou meat will the cat go beyond its magnetic state to create gravity?</p><p>Please submit all work in the form of macaroni pictures.&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000">I don't think I'm alone when I say, "I hope more planets fall under the ruthless domination of Earth!"</font></strong></p><p><font color="#0000ff">SDC Boards: Power by PLuck - Ph**king Luck</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>...Please submit all work in the form of macaroni pictures.&nbsp; Posted by neuvik</DIV></p><p>Words can't explain how much I laughed at that. :) </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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Aaupaaq

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I think I'll pass.If it's not sold at McDonald's, I'm not eating it. :) <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>You'd pass a delicacy up here.&nbsp; Gives you strength and keeps you warm during cold winter months. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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Aaupaaq

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LutefiskSpeaking of fermented fish&nbsp;Wonder if thats why there are so many Norwegien and Swedish scientists....he might be on to something &nbsp;however, I dont feel it helps your argument here. <br /> Posted by Mysterysoul</DIV></p><p>I've said a marine mammal and not a marine fish!&nbsp; Marine mammals have blubber, and I guess blubber might have omega 3 and 6 fatty acids too, eh? </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Shh...I'm trying to find the gravitic poles!&nbsp; Then, when I reverse them.... MUAHAHAHA!&nbsp; Any of you puny mortals that don't have your feet stapled to the floor like me are going to be in for a surprise!&nbsp; MUAHAHAHAHA!&nbsp;&nbsp; + = &nbsp; <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />I think the picture of the graphically admonishing kitty pretty much says it all...&nbsp; although, on the other hand, the monty python reference was beautiful.... i do love quality comparisons/parallels/analogies and metaphors....&nbsp; also, offhand, word salad was an apt description...&nbsp; all quite amusing if not particularly educational... </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>'...and i shall reign henceforth as Lord Elipses, master of all that which trails off ....... and.... hmmm.........'</p>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Careful your wording could awaken Hans Christian Oersted, who may just rise from his grave to smite you.&nbsp;Okay, so theoretical question time. &nbsp; &nbsp; I have a timer whos sync is kept by the deterioration of Uranium. &nbsp; I have a box, within this box is placed a cat. &nbsp; The cat is strapped to SMUDS industrial grid with no load shedding protection.&nbsp; At a designated time kept by the Uranium timer, the bus bar braker will engage.&nbsp; Now heres the question...neglecting hysteresis of the cat and other losses from the line to cat circuit, at what time will the cat become an electro magnet? &nbsp; If we add more fetid dead fish and caribou meat will the cat go beyond its magnetic state to create gravity?Please submit all work in the form of macaroni pictures.&nbsp; <br />Posted by neuvik</DIV><br /><br />as with packet... i laughed my ass off and im fairly certain im going to use that macaroni salad comment in the near future.&nbsp;
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If you don't want to be missing out, you have to come up here in order to perceive the reality.&nbsp; I don't smoke it, I eat it.&nbsp; If you want to learn, first you must catch your first marine mammal.&nbsp; Then you ferment your catch, but before doing that, you remove the organs and cook them.&nbsp; Then you eat them.&nbsp; Then the Blubber which is to be fermented should act like a dip for your potatoe chips.&nbsp; Then you cut the caribou meat, which was caught sometime around mid september, and was also fermented and cached (meaning buried under rocks to be rotten, which might have about 4 inches of fat, and dip it to this fermented blubber dip, and then consume the meat, along with the fat, and the blubber, it should make you f33l and think like a scientist, and even smarter, and it is very, very, very delicious, better tasting than the candies. <br />Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV><br /><br />Just FYI, i have it on good authority, (my informant being fully the reliable type, what with the robe and odd conical hat),&nbsp; that saying, (typing), a word three times in a row is a sure sign of a madman.(or woman)....&nbsp; ive heard the same thing about exclamation points, but moreso.......&nbsp; dotdotdot
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Careful your wording could awaken Hans Christian Oersted, who may just rise from his grave to smite you.&nbsp;Okay, so theoretical question time. &nbsp; &nbsp; I have a timer whos sync is kept by the deterioration of Uranium. &nbsp; I have a box, within this box is placed a cat. &nbsp; The cat is strapped to SMUDS industrial grid with no load shedding protection.&nbsp; At a designated time kept by the Uranium timer, the bus bar braker will engage.&nbsp; Now heres the question...neglecting hysteresis of the cat and other losses from the line to cat circuit, at what time will the cat become an electro magnet? &nbsp; If we add more fetid dead fish and caribou meat will the cat go beyond its magnetic state to create gravity?Please submit all work in the form of macaroni pictures.&nbsp; <br />Posted by neuvik</DIV><br /><br />I'm so glad my chair has arms that prevented gravity from hauling me to the floor until I recovered... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>Sermo datur cuntis; animi sapientia paucis</strong></p><p><em>Speech is given to many; intelligence to few</em></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You'd pass a delicacy up here.&nbsp; Gives you strength and keeps you warm during cold winter months. <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>But, see.. here's the thing- I'm not up there. I'm down here where it's sensible.&nbsp; I don't have to struggle with the cold, ice, permafrost and fifty bajillion types of snow.&nbsp; All I have to do is survive for the occassional short periods of 110 deg F heat and humidity that you have to cut with a knife in order to go outside.&nbsp; I can do that with ice-cream and sweet tea plus an occasional relaxing moment in the shade.&nbsp; So, I don't have to gnaw on bits of putrified whale blubber in order to survive. :) </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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Aaupaaq

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But, see.. here's the thing- I'm not up there. I'm down here where it's sensible.&nbsp; I don't have to struggle with the cold, ice, permafrost and fifty bajillion types of snow.&nbsp; All I have to do is survive for the occassional short periods of 110 deg F heat and humidity that you have to cut with a knife in order to go outside.&nbsp; I can do that with ice-cream and sweet tea plus an occasional relaxing moment in the shade.&nbsp; So, I don't have to gnaw on bits of putrified whale blubber in order to survive. :) <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>Can't wait for winter, I hope I can make it through this heat wave I'm experiencing!&nbsp; I think I can bask in the colder temperatures than hot temperatures.&nbsp; I think I might even die of heat stroke if I try and move down there! hehehe.&nbsp; Maybe just like you'd probably die if you try to bask up here, instead of down there where you're adapted to live in!&nbsp; Now I said delicacy and not food for survival.&nbsp; Having fermented meat with 6 inches of fat, along with fermented blubber, now that's luxury up here.&nbsp; Having store bought food, only makes me to have a heart burn, including the ice creams for some reason, and due to modernization, it's getting harder and harder to come across a hunter, with the aforementioned delicacies at hand. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Can't wait for winter, I hope I can make it through this heat wave I'm experiencing!&nbsp; I think I can bask in the colder temperatures than hot temperatures.&nbsp; I think I might even die of heat stroke if I try and move down there! hehehe.&nbsp; Maybe just like you'd probably die if you try to bask up here, instead of down there where you're adapted to live in!&nbsp; Now I said delicacy and not food for survival.&nbsp; Having fermented meat with 6 inches of fat, along with fermented blubber, now that's luxury up here.&nbsp; Having store bought food, only makes me to have a heart burn, including the ice creams for some reason, and due to modernization, it's getting harder and harder to come across a hunter, with the aforementioned delicacies at hand. Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>I love cold weather.&nbsp; That's probably because I don't live in it constantly.&nbsp; To me, I have to have "Seasons."&nbsp; Some states/regions don't seem to have them at all.&nbsp; I think that's a crime.&nbsp; For instance, Florida has no real seasons.&nbsp; It's always fairly warm there and the only notice is usually a bit more rainfall in certain times.&nbsp; Although, they did get snow a few years back.&nbsp; Parts of California are the same way too.&nbsp; I couldn't stand that.&nbsp; So, be thankful you have significant variations in your seasons! </p><p>Your fermented meat with 6 inches of fat on it would give me more than heartburn. :)&nbsp; I'd rather have it fresh and raw than sit under a rock for a month!&nbsp; Don't worry though, some store bought food doesn't agree with me either.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I love cold weather.&nbsp; That's probably because I don't live in it constantly.&nbsp; To me, I have to have "Seasons."&nbsp; Some states/regions don't seem to have them at all.&nbsp; I think that's a crime.&nbsp; For instance, Florida has no real seasons.&nbsp; It's always fairly warm there and the only notice is usually a bit more rainfall in certain times.&nbsp; Although, they did get snow a few years back.&nbsp; Parts of California are the same way too.&nbsp; I couldn't stand that.&nbsp; So, be thankful you have significant variations in your seasons! Your fermented meat with 6 inches of fat on it would give me more than heartburn. :)&nbsp; I'd rather have it fresh and raw than sit under a rock for a month!&nbsp; Don't worry though, some store bought food doesn't agree with me either. <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>I think you're wrong somewhere three quarters way throught the paragraphe, where it states the fat and blubber giving you a heart burn?&nbsp; I don't think they give you a heart burn.&nbsp; The pig meat and cow meat, and southern meat are what I think made up of whats called "White fat" which are very bad cholesterol and whatever you might call it.&nbsp; Up here, you get what's called "Brown Fat" which are very healthy fat to eat and even healthy for you to eat.&nbsp; If you lack enough of it, you will eventually get yellowskin and very weak.&nbsp; The fat I get are from Caribou, and the blubber is from Beluga or Bearded seal.&nbsp; But you can get the blubber from any marine mammal but I just prefer Beluga and Bearded seal blubber which are very delicious fermented or fresh, raw or cooked.&nbsp; Mm - mmmmmmmm:) </p><p>But you've got one thing right too, the variation of weather up here.&nbsp; I get to swim in summer, hunt in the fall for the best food on earth and sea, adjust my body to roughen it up during winter season, and time to relax during spring and admire the wildlife coming back just like it has been doing for the past 6000 years if you're one of us or billions of years if you're one of the scientific oriented. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I think you're wrong somewhere three quarters way throught the paragraphe, where it states the fat and blubber giving you a heart burn?&nbsp; I don't think they give you a heart burn.&nbsp; The pig meat and cow meat, and southern meat are what I think made up of whats called "White fat" which are very bad cholesterol and whatever you might call it.&nbsp; Up here, you get what's called "Brown Fat" which are very healthy fat to eat and even healthy for you to eat.&nbsp; If you lack enough of it, you will eventually get yellowskin and very weak.&nbsp; The fat I get are from Caribou, and the blubber is from Beluga or Bearded seal.&nbsp; But you can get the blubber from any marine mammal but I just prefer Beluga and Bearded seal blubber which are very delicious fermented or fresh, raw or cooked.&nbsp; Mm - mmmmmmmm:) But you've got one thing right too, the variation of weather up here.&nbsp; I get to swim in summer, hunt in the fall for the best food on earth and sea, adjust my body to roughen it up during winter season, and time to relax during spring and admire the wildlife coming back just like it has been doing for the past 6000 years if you're one of us or billions of years if you're one of the scientific oriented. <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I take it theres no macaroni up there?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><strong><font color="#ff0000">I don't think I'm alone when I say, "I hope more planets fall under the ruthless domination of Earth!"</font></strong></p><p><font color="#0000ff">SDC Boards: Power by PLuck - Ph**king Luck</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I take it theres no macaroni up there?&nbsp; Posted by neuvik</DIV></p><p>You may have to change the medium to blubber.&nbsp; You may also need to get vogon to review it.. I know I wouldn't want to. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You may have to change the medium to blubber.&nbsp; You may also need to get vogon to review it.. I know I wouldn't want to. <br /> Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></p><p>Yes, we've got macaroni, we also have "Large", a KFC, Subway, G.P.S., I've even saw ipod touch in operation here.&nbsp; I say all of the products, imported up here, despite that it helps us a lot, we can do without.&nbsp; But I prefer my own traditional food, because my digestive system is familiar with the tastes, bowel movement, etc. are somewhat tuned to the region, where I rely on marine mammals to have a good taste and appetite.&nbsp; End result?&nbsp; I go where the animal is basking that I want to eat.&nbsp; I take all that I catch and use all that I take, and only take what I need, not let the interest grow in my bank account that has a potential for growth as I was told by some guy who is only interested in money.&nbsp; Maybe if you've watched "The gods must be crazy" movie, where this african bushman was offered compensation for his injuries, just threw the compensation money outside the jail house, just as he was freed from confinement, hehehe. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yes, we've got macaroni, we also have "Large", a KFC, Subway, G.P.S., I've even saw ipod touch in operation here.&nbsp; I say all of the products, imported up here, despite that it helps us a lot, we can do without.&nbsp; But I prefer my own traditional food, because my digestive system is familiar with the tastes, bowel movement, etc. are somewhat tuned to the region, where I rely on marine mammals to have a good taste and appetite.&nbsp; End result?&nbsp; I go where the animal is basking that I want to eat.&nbsp; I take all that I catch and use all that I take, and only take what I need, not let the interest grow in my bank account that has a potential for growth as I was told by some guy who is only interested in money.&nbsp; Maybe if you've watched "The gods must be crazy" movie, where this african bushman was offered compensation for his injuries, just threw the compensation money outside the jail house, just as he was freed from confinement, hehehe. <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>Well, you do have some advantages over Xixo.&nbsp; He didn't know what money was *for*.&nbsp; ;-)</p><p>"The Gods Must Be Crazy" was a fun movie.&nbsp; I loved it.&nbsp; It did raise a certain amount of controversy, however, for glamorizing the San (Bushmen) and giving the impression that they still live an idyllic, hunter-gatherer existence.&nbsp; This was true once, and perhaps there may have been some still living that way when the movie was filmed, but that life is gone now.&nbsp; The San seen in the movie were not hunter-gatherers, for instance.&nbsp; They most likely lived in one of the squalid villages on one of the reservations where they are now obliged to live.&nbsp; Their legendary tracking skills are probably forgotten now.&nbsp; N!ixau, the actor who played Xixo, was a farmer, not a hunter-gatherer, and like far too many of his people, he contracted drug-resistent tuberculosis.&nbsp; He died of it in 2003.</p><p>The San are an interesting people, with a number of biological adaptations for desert living, suggesting that they have lived there for an extremely long time. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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Aaupaaq

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well, you do have some advantages over Xixo.&nbsp; He didn't know what money was *for*.&nbsp; ;-)"The Gods Must Be Crazy" was a fun movie.&nbsp; I loved it.&nbsp; It did raise a certain amount of controversy, however, for glamorizing the San (Bushmen) and giving the impression that they still live an idyllic, hunter-gatherer existence.&nbsp; This was true once, and perhaps there may have been some still living that way when the movie was filmed, but that life is gone now.&nbsp; The San seen in the movie were not hunter-gatherers, for instance.&nbsp; They most likely lived in one of the squalid villages on one of the reservations where they are now obliged to live.&nbsp; Their legendary tracking skills are probably forgotten now.&nbsp; N!ixau, the actor who played Xixo, was a farmer, not a hunter-gatherer, and like far too many of his people, he contracted drug-resistent tuberculosis.&nbsp; He died of it in 2003.The San are an interesting people, with a number of biological adaptations for desert living, suggesting that they have lived there for an extremely long time. <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>Sounds like we and them San People went through the same kind of predicaments, only that the outcomes are a little different.&nbsp; I think their skins are dark from the sun.&nbsp; After a long dark winter, comes spring time our skins which are exposed to the sun will be really dark, like a tan.&nbsp; I guess UV rays are almost equivalent of hot oven!&nbsp; I think farmers and hunter-gatherer are just the same as "Vegetarian" and "Meatitarian".&nbsp; Farmers I guess prefer to eat grown plants and hunters prefer to eat something with protien.&nbsp; We've just been eating the something with proteins for a long time, that even our marine mammal foods are like medicine to us like the magma is to earth.&nbsp; Something to keep us circulated somehow, and h2o is one of the very effective ways to transport any elements around! </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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You watch too much TV... it's not meatatarian... use carnivore, herbivore and omnivore. The vast majority of humans are the latter... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><strong>Sermo datur cuntis; animi sapientia paucis</strong></p><p><em>Speech is given to many; intelligence to few</em></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Sounds like we and them San People went through the same kind of predicaments, only that the outcomes are a little different.&nbsp; I think their skins are dark from the sun.&nbsp; After a long dark winter, comes spring time our skins which are exposed to the sun will be really dark, like a tan.&nbsp; I guess UV rays are almost equivalent of hot oven!&nbsp; I think farmers and hunter-gatherer are just the same as "Vegetarian" and "Meatitarian".&nbsp; Farmers I guess prefer to eat grown plants and hunters prefer to eat something with protien.&nbsp; We've just been eating the something with proteins for a long time, that even our marine mammal foods are like medicine to us like the magma is to earth.&nbsp; Something to keep us circulated somehow, and h2o is one of the very effective ways to transport any elements around! <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>Yes, your people are adapted to live in the Arctic.&nbsp; My ancestors are mostly from Scandinavia, and so I carry some adaptations, particularly my fair skin -- the better to produce Vitamin D in the weaker sunlight at higher latitudes.&nbsp; The negative side-effect is, of course, my tendency to sunburn easily.&nbsp; But I think your people are better adapted to the Arctic than my people, so I think your ancestors have probably been at high latitudes longer than mine. </p><p>Random factoid about marine mammals: their blubber is a rich source of Vitamin C, which is why even in ancient times, native peoples of the far north did not get scurvy (vitamin C deficiency which causes a breakdown of connective tissues and, eventually, death; was a major problem for European sailors until someone figured out that eating citrus fruit cured it). </p><p>The San, like most Africans, are indeed dark-skinned, an adaptation which reduces the damage they get from the sun.&nbsp; (Dark skin has arisen in many low-latitude groups, from Africa to Polynesia to New Guinea and Australia.)&nbsp; The San are different from most blacks, however.&nbsp; Their skin is more golden than most people's, for one thing.&nbsp; They are also shorter and more lightly built, the better to survive in the marginal conditions of the desert, and they can go longer without water than most other humans, being able to store more water in their body tissues.&nbsp; One of their more obvious differences doesn't seem to be adapative; some differences are just random, after all.&nbsp; Their hair does not grow continuously.&nbsp; Most humans have hair that will grow to at least three feet in length before being shed.&nbsp; The San do not.&nbsp; Theirs stays very short.&nbsp; It also grows in small whorls all over the head.&nbsp; Since no other humans have this trait, they must have been genetically isolated for a very long time.</p><p>Other interesting groups of humans (genetically speaking) include the Pygmies, a group who may be related to the San, although they live in the rainforest rather than the desert.&nbsp; Pygmies reach sexual maturity much younger than any other human (8 is not uncommon) and are much smaller in size.&nbsp; They are traditionally migrant hunter-gatherers, though they are increasingly starting to settle down in villages as their habitat shrinks away.&nbsp; One interesting factoid: despite their relatively primitive lifestyle, their medical practices are fairly advanced, and they have a particular focus on dental hygeine.</p><p>Many residents of Nepal and Tibet, particularly Sherpas, are adapted to high altitude.&nbsp; Their blood has a prodigious oxygen-transport capability unmatched in any other ethnic group (though some native South American groups, residing in the Altiplano and the Andes, come close).&nbsp; Sherpa mountain guides are known to conduct mountain run contests to see who can get to the peak of Mount Everest and back the fastest.</p><p>Non-San Africans carry a gene which makes them more resistant to malaria.&nbsp; (It does not make them immune, but makes them more likely to survive an infestation.)&nbsp;&nbsp; A side-effect of this gene is that if it is carried on both sides, it causes sickle cell anemia, a non-fatal but excruciating condition. </p><p>As our species globalizes, many of these adaptations will mingle.&nbsp; It will be interesting for future generations to see how our species changes as traits which previously were not shared have a chance to mix and match. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yes, your people are adapted to live in the Arctic....<br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>Another super informative post, quite a lot I didn't know in there! For instance I certainly didn't realise that scandinavians can produce vitamin D more effectively.</p><p>Cultural adaptation is probably worth a mention. Cultures too devolpe all kinds of unique survival strategies after thousands of generations in a hostile environment.&nbsp; </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="2" color="#339966"> I wish I could remember<br /> But my selective memory<br /> Won't let me</font><font size="2" color="#99cc00"> </font><font size="3" color="#339966"><font size="2">- </font></font><font size="1" color="#339966">Mark Oliver Everett</font></p><p> </p> </div>
 
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I think the blood that carries the iron to help transport the oxygen to body tissues, are somehow connected to our supposed "Grand" or "Great Grand" Childrens health that aren't even born yet.&nbsp; I'm guessing you'd call it "Epigenome" or something to that effect.&nbsp; I'm thinking that if some of our ancestors were living a decent life, like hardly experiencing drought conditons, their grandchildren will likely have a poorer health than the children whose grandparents experienced drought.&nbsp; Like yin and yan, like stop and go, like past and future, like magnets basically, but in addition to magnets, we add time and this contributes to our health I think. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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Aaupaaq

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yes, your people are adapted to live in the Arctic.&nbsp; My ancestors are mostly from Scandinavia, and so I carry some adaptations, particularly my fair skin -- the better to produce Vitamin D in the weaker sunlight at higher latitudes.&nbsp; The negative side-effect is, of course, my tendency to sunburn easily.&nbsp; But I think your people are better adapted to the Arctic than my people, so I think your ancestors have probably been at high latitudes longer than mine. Random factoid about marine mammals: their blubber is a rich source of Vitamin C, which is why even in ancient times, native peoples of the far north did not get scurvy (vitamin C deficiency which causes a breakdown of connective tissues and, eventually, death; was a major problem for European sailors until someone figured out that eating citrus fruit cured it). The San, like most Africans, are indeed dark-skinned, an adaptation which reduces the damage they get from the sun.&nbsp; (Dark skin has arisen in many low-latitude groups, from Africa to Polynesia to New Guinea and Australia.)&nbsp; The San are different from most blacks, however.&nbsp; Their skin is more golden than most people's, for one thing.&nbsp; They are also shorter and more lightly built, the better to survive in the marginal conditions of the desert, and they can go longer without water than most other humans, being able to store more water in their body tissues.&nbsp; One of their more obvious differences doesn't seem to be adapative; some differences are just random, after all.&nbsp; Their hair does not grow continuously.&nbsp; Most humans have hair that will grow to at least three feet in length before being shed.&nbsp; The San do not.&nbsp; Theirs stays very short.&nbsp; It also grows in small whorls all over the head.&nbsp; Since no other humans have this trait, they must have been genetically isolated for a very long time.Other interesting groups of humans (genetically speaking) include the Pygmies, a group who may be related to the San, although they live in the rainforest rather than the desert.&nbsp; Pygmies reach sexual maturity much younger than any other human (8 is not uncommon) and are much smaller in size.&nbsp; They are traditionally migrant hunter-gatherers, though they are increasingly starting to settle down in villages as their habitat shrinks away.&nbsp; One interesting factoid: despite their relatively primitive lifestyle, their medical practices are fairly advanced, and they have a particular focus on dental hygeine.Many residents of Nepal and Tibet, particularly Sherpas, are adapted to high altitude.&nbsp; Their blood has a prodigious oxygen-transport capability unmatched in any other ethnic group (though some native South American groups, residing in the Altiplano and the Andes, come close).&nbsp; Sherpa mountain guides are known to conduct mountain run contests to see who can get to the peak of Mount Everest and back the fastest.Non-San Africans carry a gene which makes them more resistant to malaria.&nbsp; (It does not make them immune, but makes them more likely to survive an infestation.)&nbsp;&nbsp; A side-effect of this gene is that if it is carried on both sides, it causes sickle cell anemia, a non-fatal but excruciating condition. As our species globalizes, many of these adaptations will mingle.&nbsp; It will be interesting for future generations to see how our species changes as traits which previously were not shared have a chance to mix and match. <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>There might be some pros and cons to mingle, I mean in relation to our health and well being.&nbsp; Like the sickle-cell anemia, being introduced to another region, if and when the decendants decide to move with their mom and dad, or whether the decendants need to arrange for custody or something like that, because when we're humans, we love our parents and sometimes things don't always go as planned. </p><p>&nbsp;CalliArcale, I can't help it when I see your little saying about time.&nbsp; I think time is more like cycles if we don't look at it in a linear perspective.&nbsp; Indeed, time is a cycle. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>There might be some pros and cons to mingle, I mean in relation to our health and well being.&nbsp; Like the sickle-cell anemia, being introduced to another region, if and when the decendants decide to move with their mom and dad, or whether the decendants need to arrange for custody or something like that, because when we're humans, we love our parents and sometimes things don't always go as planned. &nbsp;CalliArcale, I can't help it when I see your little saying about time.&nbsp; I think time is more like cycles if we don't look at it in a linear perspective.&nbsp; Indeed, time is a cycle. <br /> Posted by Aaupaaq</DIV></p><p>Glad you like my quote.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; It's from Doctor Who, my favorite TV series.&nbsp; The Doctor sometimes struggles to find the right words, and sometimes gets a bit impatient about it.&nbsp; That particular episode, "Blink", won the Hugo for best dramatic presentation, short form.&nbsp; It was *good*, especially if you like a good psychological thriller, and played around a lot with time and temporal paradoxes.&nbsp; The plot is built around a big predestination paradox. </p><p>To tom_hobbes, Scandinavians don't produce vitamin D more effectively in terms of biochemistry -- it's just that lighter skin lets in more sunlight, which facilitates the reaction.&nbsp; It also lets in more damaging ultraviolet rays, so fair-skinned people (not just Scandinavians but also Germans and Celts and so forth) are more vulnerable to skin cancer than dark-skinned people.&nbsp; It's a trade-off. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Glad you like my quote.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; It's from Doctor Who, my favorite TV series.&nbsp; The Doctor sometimes struggles to find the right words, and sometimes gets a bit impatient about it.&nbsp; That particular episode, "Blink", won the Hugo for best dramatic presentation, short form.&nbsp; It was *good*, especially if you like a good psychological thriller, and played around a lot with time and temporal paradoxes.&nbsp; The plot is built around a big predestination paradox. To tom_hobbes, Scandinavians don't produce vitamin D more effectively in terms of biochemistry -- it's just that lighter skin lets in more sunlight, which facilitates the reaction.&nbsp; It also lets in more damaging ultraviolet rays, so fair-skinned people (not just Scandinavians but also Germans and Celts and so forth) are more vulnerable to skin cancer than dark-skinned people.&nbsp; It's a trade-off. <br /> Posted by CalliArcale</DIV></p><p>Like genes, turning on and off, AWEsome! fully sounds a lot like positive and negative switching on and off.&nbsp; Even reaching to living organisms or species, like epigenomes, barely revealing the truth about history, religion, and our most unanswered mysteries, like viruses and nanotechnology.&nbsp; Turning knobs on the genes, magnets do run everything in my mind.&nbsp; I mean the same principal, which is only understood with gravity, meaning they have the same principal as magnets, and been seen as a different species, and we're only started to learn about the opposite polarity, the repellant.&nbsp; Repellant to what?&nbsp; Sickness, old age, burgluries, and all the other bad stuff, meaning paradise! </p><p>I think that is why there are gays gathered in the same bar somewhere, due to regions.&nbsp; Gravity attracts, and something like that, not that I'm against, but against, but not going to say why. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> We always walked on water, like skating! </div>
 
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