Shenzhou 7 planned launch September 25th

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<p>The space walk is supposed to be shown live. Is there a feed available for this? I hope there's no need to download some new program for this :-(</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>This link, http://www.cctv.com/english/special/Shenzhou7/01/index.shtml, is what I used to view the launch. It is CCTV's English news channel, and I'm sure they will cover the spacewalk as well. <br /> Posted by Huntster</DIV></p><p>Ah, thanks! CCTV9 will probably have a live broadcast then.... </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p>Interesting SDC article:</p><p>http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/080925-false-launch-report.html</p><p class="MsoNormal">BEIJING (AP) &mdash; <strong>A news story describing a successful launch of China's long-awaited space mission and including detailed dialogue between astronauts launched on the Internet Thursday, hours before the rocket had even left the ground.</strong></p><p class="MsoNormal">The country's official news agency Xinhua posted the article on its Web site Thursday, and remained there for much of the day before it was taken down.</p><p class="MsoNormal">A staffer from the Xinhuanet.com Web site who answered the phone Thursday said the posting of the article was a "technical error" by a technician. The staffer refused to give his name as is common among Chinese officials.</p><p class="MsoNormal">The Shenzhou 7 mission, which will feature China's first-ever spacewalk, ended up launching Thursday from Jiuquan in northwestern China late in the evening.</p><p class="MsoNormal">The article, dated two days from now on Sept. 27, vividly described the rocket in flight, complete with a sharply detailed dialogue between the three astronauts.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Excerpts are below:</p><p class="MsoNormal">"After this order, signal lights all were switched on, various data show up on rows of screens, hundreds of technicians staring at the screens, without missing any slightest changes ...</p><p class="MsoNormal">'One minute to go!'</p><p class="MsoNormal">'Changjiang No.1 found the target!'...</p><p class="MsoNormal">"The firm voice of the controller broke the silence of the whole ship. Now, the target is captured 12 seconds ahead of the predicted time ...</p><p class="MsoNormal">'The air pressure in the cabin is normal!'</p><p class="MsoNormal">"Ten minutes later, the ship disappears below the horizon. Warm clapping and excited cheering breaks the night sky, echoing across the silent Pacific Ocean."</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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asj2006

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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Interesting SDC article:http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/080925-false-launch-report.html<br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Kinda reminds me of the article that got mistakenly posted by Bloomberg on the death of Steve Jobs. Probably reporters do this all the time so they can quickly post stuff when needed.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Kinda reminds me of the article that got mistakenly posted by Bloomberg on the death of Steve Jobs. Probably reporters do this all the time so they can quickly post stuff when needed.&nbsp; <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV><br /><br />With quotes of the conversation? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>With quotes of the conversation? <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Yeah, I would call that going overboard a bit too much for dramatic effect - I'm sure the actual conversations were MUCH more mundane&nbsp; ;-) </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yeah, I would call that going overboard a bit too much for dramatic effect - I'm sure the actual conversations were MUCH more mundane&nbsp; ;-) &nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV><br /><br />They hadn't even taken place yet. Where I come from, we call that lying. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>They hadn't even taken place yet. Where I come from, we call that lying. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>So, your point would be that some reporter "lied"? Greart, crucify him then. While you're at it, head over to Bloomberg and scold the people who released that "Jobs is Dead" news item which caused major consternation among Apple shareholders (and I'm sure to other people too). People are people. They make mistakes, they try to make things more "hollywood" and more exciting for their readers. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>So, your point would be that some reporter "lied"? Greart, crucify him then. While you're at it, head over to Bloomberg and scold the people who released that "Jobs is Dead" news item which caused major consternation among Apple shareholders (and I'm sure to other people too). People are people. They make mistakes, they try to make things more "hollywood" and more exciting for their readers. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV><br /><br />Perhaps you missed this part:</p><p class="MsoNormal"><strong>The country's official news agency Xinhua</strong> posted the article on its Web site Thursday, and remained there for much of the day before it was taken down.</p><p class="MsoNormal">It's not like here in the US where there is a free press. This was the official Government News Agency.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Are you seriously trying to defend the Chinese government posting totally fabricated news stories?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Perhaps you missed this part:The country's official news agency Xinhua posted the article on its Web site Thursday, and remained there for much of the day before it was taken down.It's not like here in the US where there is a free press. This was the official Government News Agency.Are you seriously trying to defend the Chinese government posting totally fabricated news stories? <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>So, you mean, THE Chinese government fabricated this story?? Wow!!!! They must have had intense discussions beforehand on what the taikos would say. I can only imagine the president and premier in wild negotiations over the verb and noun usage of the wording - perhaps with the army chief dancing the rhumba in the background in exasperation over the fact they over-rode his suggestion that the taikos start singing the national anthem while drinking chinese beer. Oh, the humanity!!!!! Puts the bailout debates here in the US to shame....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>So, you mean, THE Chinese government fabricated this story?? Wow!!!! They must have had intense discussions beforehand on what the taikos would say. I can only imagine the president and premier in wild negotiations over the verb and noun usage of the wording - perhaps with the army chief dancing the rhumba in the background in exasperation over the fact they over-rode his suggestion that the taikos start singing the national anthem while drinking chinese beer. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV><br /><br />Yes, the Chinese government apparently fabricated the story. Exactly.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Are you saying they didn't?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Yes, the Chinese government apparently fabricated the story. Exactly. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Oh my! Oh my!!!!! I can only imagine China's national congress in intense debates about this.&nbsp;</p><p>"Sir! I do not want Taiko 2 to wave with his right hand! I want the left hand, goshdarnit!"</p><p>&nbsp;" If you guys don't approve of MY idea I am going to hold my breath! Oh, yes I am!"</p><p>"I TOLD you we should have had a woman in that spaceship! Three guys in a capsule ain't exactly a heartwarming sight!"</p><p>&nbsp;"I think sneezing in space would be really cool. Can we add that in?" </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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I wonder what the historic words of the first Chinese astronaut to walk on the moon were.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I wonder what the historic words of the first Chinese astronaut to walk on the moon were. Posted by centsworth_II</DIV></p><p>"Did anyone bring a flashlight?"</p><p>"Who forgot to pick up the $%#$%# flag from the laundry???" </p><p>"Who forgot the #$#$%#$ toilet paper???!!!"</p><p>" And I want to thank my Mama, my aunt, my neighbor Li Wen, my first grade teacher Chen Xuefei, Mama Joy at Mama Joy's restaurant, the newspaper guy at the corner of 12th and Xinjiang Ave......" </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> &nbsp;Oh my! Oh my!!!!! I can only imagine China's national congress in intense debates about this.&nbsp;"Sir! I do not want Taiko 2 to wave with his right hand! I want the left hand, goshdarnit!"&nbsp;" If you guys don't approve of MY idea I am going to hold my breath! Oh, yes I am!""I TOLD you we should have had a woman in that spaceship! Three guys in a capsule ain't exactly a heartwarming sight!"&nbsp;"I think sneezing in space would be really cool. Can we add that in?" &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV></p><p>I asked "Are you saying they didn't?"<br /><br />So in other words, you have no intelligent response. That's OK, I think the facts speak for themselves.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I asked "Are you saying they didn't?"So in other words, you have no intelligent response. That's OK, I think the facts speak for themselves. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Oh noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! The facts, they are speaking!!!! </p><p>And here I thought it was simply much ado about nothing. ;-)</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Oh noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! The facts, they are speaking!!!! And here I thought it was simply much ado about nothing. ;-) <br />Posted by asj2006</DIV><br /><br />I suppose you think that's witty. Not much point in pursuing this conversation. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>
 
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<p>Wouldn't it be cool if someone invented a space suit that did not take TWELVE HOURS to prep??? This is only slightly less than the boot-up time for Windows!!!! </p><p>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jszhZZpw8KvbElApGPkWEikezcBAD93EG9781 </p><p>BEIJING (AP) &mdash; Astronauts aboard China's Shenzhou 7 spacecraft prepared for the country's first-ever spacewalk on Friday by readying the space suits to be used the following day.</p><p>Prepping the two suits &mdash; one Chinese, one Russian &mdash; takes around 12 hours, and includes booting up the power, life support, and other systems and synchronizing them, said Wang Zhaoyao, deputy director of China's manned space program office.</p><p>"This is China's first attempt (at a spacewalk) so there are a lot of uncertainties," Wang told reporters at a news conference in Beijing.</p><p>The 20-minute spacewalk is scheduled for Saturday afternoon; the exact timing depends on the readiness of equipment and personnel, Wang said. The event will be broadcast live on television, he said.</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Oh noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! The facts, they are speaking!!!! And here I thought it was simply much ado about nothing. ;-) <br /> Posted by asj2006</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You cant be serious! Much ado about nothing? this is science and the second you start lieing about the facts it becomes fantacy. Any science ganed from here on out is now suspect and tainted. </p>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Wouldn't it be cool if someone invented a space suit that did not take TWELVE HOURS to prep??? This is only slightly less than the boot-up time for Windows!!!!</p><p>Posted by asj2006</DIV></p><p><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> </p><p>You'd be surprised how long it takes to prep for an EVA, even for Americans and Russians.&nbsp; I would also suspect that the 12 hour time includes a pure oxygen pre-breathe to purge nitrogen from their blood.&nbsp; Pure oxgyen environments are hazardous, so you don't want them in a spaceship.&nbsp; But that means breathing mostly nitrogen, which will wind up dissolved in your blood.&nbsp; That's okay as long as the pressure stays the same.&nbsp; During EVA, though, you're likely going to go down to 5 PSI so the suit will still be bendable, and that will be pure oxygen.&nbsp; If you have nitrogen in your blood, it will come out of solution and form bubbles.&nbsp; That's how you get the bends, the effects of which can be anywhere from excruciating to lethal.&nbsp; It takes a bit of time.</p><p>Also, this is a brand new suit design.&nbsp; It would be prudent to go slow getting it prepped for its first operational use. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p><font color="#666699"><em>"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly . . . timey wimey . . . stuff."</em>  -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink"</font></p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;You cant be serious! Much ado about nothing? this is science and the second you start lieing about the facts it becomes fantacy. Any science ganed from here on out is now suspect and tainted. <br /> Posted by gawin</DIV></p><p>Science? I didn't realize the definition of "science" has become so broad.... </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I would also suspect that the 12 hour time includes a pure oxygen pre-breathe to purge nitrogen from their blood.&nbsp; Pure oxgyen environments are hazardous, so you don't want them in a spaceship.&nbsp; But that means breathing mostly nitrogen, which will wind up dissolved in your blood.&nbsp; That's okay as long as the pressure stays the same.&nbsp; During EVA, though, you're likely going to go down to 5 PSI so the suit will still be bendable, and that will be pure oxygen.&nbsp; If you have nitrogen in your blood, it will come out of solution and form bubbles.&nbsp; That's how you get the bends, the effects of which can be anywhere from excruciating to lethal.&nbsp; </DIV></p><p>Ok, now THAT makes sense....it's not just the SUIT being prepared, it's the human beings as well...</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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Anyone saw taikongnauts wearing oxygen mask? Think pre-breath is about to start.
 
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asj2006

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Hmmmm...learned more about EVAs...turns out there is quite a degree of danger involved, although no serious accidents have happened in the hundreds of EVAs that have been performed so far. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p> </p><p>------------------------------------------- </p><p>"Breathe. This is like most of the choices you have in life. <br />You know inside whether it's right. <br />Whether you do it is up to you." </p><p>From the Tao of Willie Nelson</p> </div>
 
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