SpaceX Falcon I - Flight 3 Launch Failure T+2:20

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If I am that far off, then the people at spacex are smoking something really heavy if they think that they are going to put that kind of weight into LEO at those costs!&nbsp; What they are talking about is not competition with the Delta II, but competition with the Delta IV or the Atlas V.&nbsp; At that size of rocket even the handling equipment for just the rocket engine(s) is quite expensive (I have knowledge of this as I worked on almost every large rocket engine that Rocketdyne has ever built...Posted by frodo1008</DIV></p><p>Frodo, I think we both have enough experience to know that it is easy to get the costs down to those levels -- until you have to get the system off paper, out of development, into production and make a profit.&nbsp; <br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[DrRocket]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If I am that far off, then the people at spacex are smoking something really heavy if they think that they are going to put that kind of weight into LEO at those costs!&nbsp; What they are talking about is not competition with the Delta II, but competition with the Delta IV or the Atlas V.&nbsp; At that size of rocket even the handling equipment for just the rocket engine(s) is quite expensive (I have knowledge of this as I worked on almost every large rocket engine that Rocketdyne has ever built...Posted by frodo1008</DIV></p><p>Frodo, I think we both have enough experience to know that it is easy to get the costs down to those levels -- until you have to get the system off paper, out of development, into production and make a profit.&nbsp; <br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[aaron38]

<p>The webcast link still says there's "A launch today at 5pm Pacific time", but that hasn't changed.&nbsp; I can't find any other updates.&nbsp; If they aren't launching today, when are they going to let us know?</p>

 

[aaron38]

<p>The webcast link still says there's "A launch today at 5pm Pacific time", but that hasn't changed.&nbsp; I can't find any other updates.&nbsp; If they aren't launching today, when are they going to let us know?</p>

 

[Swampcat]

<p>Sources are saying that the launch won't happen until mid-August.</p><p>It sure would be nice to hear something official from SpaceX.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[Swampcat]

<p>Sources are saying that the launch won't happen until mid-August.</p><p>It sure would be nice to hear something official from SpaceX.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="3" color="#ff9900"><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>------------------------------------------------------------------- </em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong><em>"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."</em></strong></font></p><p><font size="1" color="#993300"><strong>Thomas Jefferson</strong></font></p></font> </div>

 

[docm]

Read somewhere, can't remember where - maybe NSF, that they were having range scheduling problems - again. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[docm]

Read somewhere, can't remember where - maybe NSF, that they were having range scheduling problems - again. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Sources are saying that the launch won't happen until mid-August.It sure would be nice to hear something official from SpaceX. <br />Posted by Swampcat</DIV><br /><br />Indeed. Their wesite is hopelessly out of date, last updated Dec 10th.</p><p>No news about this flight in months.</p><p>Very dissappointing....</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Sources are saying that the launch won't happen until mid-August.It sure would be nice to hear something official from SpaceX. <br />Posted by Swampcat</DIV><br /><br />Indeed. Their wesite is hopelessly out of date, last updated Dec 10th.</p><p>No news about this flight in months.</p><p>Very dissappointing....</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Indeed. Their wesite is hopelessly out of date, last updated Dec 10th.No news about this flight in months.Very dissappointing.... <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /><br />Spaceflight Now says "official launch date has not been announced" now. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Indeed. Their wesite is hopelessly out of date, last updated Dec 10th.No news about this flight in months.Very dissappointing.... <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV><br /><br />Spaceflight Now says "official launch date has not been announced" now. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[moonmadness]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Spaceflight Now says "official launch date has not been announced" now. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2 class="date-header">Monday, July 28, 2008</h2><div class="post hentry uncustomized-post-template"><a name="3879800342254135560"></a><h3 class="post-title entry-title">Launch window coming up! </h3><div class="post-body entry-content">We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.<br /><br />For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the <font color="#99aadd">static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2</font>.<br /><br />Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites.<br /><br /></div></div> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>I'm not a rocket scientist, but I do play one on the TV in my mind.</p> </div>

 

[moonmadness]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Spaceflight Now says "official launch date has not been announced" now. <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><h2 class="date-header">Monday, July 28, 2008</h2><div class="post hentry uncustomized-post-template"><a name="3879800342254135560"></a><h3 class="post-title entry-title">Launch window coming up! </h3><div class="post-body entry-content">We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.<br /><br />For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the <font color="#99aadd">static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2</font>.<br /><br />Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites.<br /><br /></div></div> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>I'm not a rocket scientist, but I do play one on the TV in my mind.</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Monday, July 28, 2008Launch window coming up! We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2.Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites. <br />Posted by moonmadness</DIV><br /><br />What site was this update from? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Monday, July 28, 2008Launch window coming up! We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2.Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites. <br />Posted by moonmadness</DIV><br /><br />What site was this update from? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Monday, July 28, 2008Launch window coming up! We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2.Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites. <br />Posted by moonmadness</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I found the site:</p><p>http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Monday, July 28, 2008Launch window coming up! We're now 4 days away from the launch window for the Falcon 1 flight 3 vehicle, equipped with SpaceX's new Merlin 1C regeneratively cooled engine. Launch window is August 1-5, and launch will occur out of our favorite launch base in the world, Kwaj.For those that missed it, there was a successful static fire on June 25th. For those that don't remember how cool a static fire is, check out this video of the static fire from Falcon 1 Demoflight 2.Falcon 1 Flight 3 will carry the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program of the Department of Defense&rsquo;s Operationally Responsive Space Office (ORS). Additional secondary payloads include an adapter system developed by the government of Malaysia that holds two small NASA satellites. <br />Posted by moonmadness</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I found the site:</p><p>http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[moonmadness]

<p>SPACEX site now changed to show video link for launch.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>I'm not a rocket scientist, but I do play one on the TV in my mind.</p> </div>

 

[moonmadness]

<p>SPACEX site now changed to show video link for launch.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>I'm not a rocket scientist, but I do play one on the TV in my mind.</p> </div>

 

[tanstaafl76]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Webcast page is active, but I don't know what "today" refers to on that page because I don't see it actually linked anywhere yet.</p><p>http://spacex.com/webcast.php </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[tanstaafl76]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Webcast page is active, but I don't know what "today" refers to on that page because I don't see it actually linked anywhere yet.</p><p>http://spacex.com/webcast.php </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[docm]

The next launch window is open from August 1 to August 5, so it looks like a vigil starting Friday is in order. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[docm]

The next launch window is open from August 1 to August 5, so it looks like a vigil starting Friday is in order. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[aaron38]

The front page of spacex.com now has a banner for Flight 3 and a link to test the webcast.&nbsp; So it looks like they're spinning up, but no date listed yet.<br />