thanks, wmd. i haven`t been a WW fan very long. when i have cable, i hardly watch networx. back to my original questions. is this in the Arctic? Vertical or Horizontal? i`m assuming a small crew here, w/ some cargospace. barring what i`d assume would be horizontal, this design is similar to Dark skies vehicle & Bova`s Manta. i`m trying not to repeat too much of my post over there. it would be cool to compare all 3 @ once. although i`m not sure Kinsman series was ever illustrated. & although the vehicle in "when worlds collide bears resemblence, she was a colony ship, but we`re talkin the 50`s there. since thread this was "launched", haha i was compelled to lookup DS episode which (& i`d forgotten just one season). but that fact made easier huntin. we`re talkin approx 1963, here. & actually now that i remember some of Kinsman Saga, about the same era. & just now i`m remembering my buddies playing metal gear 3 or 4 can`t remember which. they had an even sleeker vehicle of same Era! this was actually a Blackbird carrying a smaller craft, possibly glider! this was the metal gear game about giant russian tank thing which was supposedly able to go 300 mph. it seemed snake rode this lil glider into enemy territory. i tried to explain this to my buddies, but they were too much into the game to hear my aeronautical lecture. cuz @ the time the config reminded of DS & Manta. this was the little movie portion of the game, so one wouldn`t hafta play all through it to see her. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>