What causes Gravity??

[yevaud]

Not.<br /><br />The meaning of "Singularity" is "where our understanding of the physics of it breaks down." This is term is known in both mathematics and physics.<br /><br />The expression of mass in spacetime leading to gravitational force is not entirely known as yet, but there is no math/physics singularity there. We reasonably well understand how it works, and are gaining new insight daily.<br /><br />Wrt to a physical Singularity, we do not know what occurs beneath the event horizon; our physics break down. Thus, "Singularity." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[primordial]

kyle_baron ! Singularities come in more than one configuration ie. naked( spinning and non-spinning). after all gravity is propagated thruogh space-time as a change in space-time, due to relative change in energy in the originating source, it could be a naked singularity undergoing a change in spin. Just think about it.

 

[primordial]

Yevaud ! Mr. Stephen Hawking lost a bet to Mr. Kipp Thorne over constructing a naked singularity, however this does not indicate naked singularities exist in reality, however Mr. Penrose ( Mr. Twistor)and the work done by others in the "M" theory may fine branes that exist in lower spacial dimensions rotating and non-rotating interesting they could take on similarity to twistors.

 

[yevaud]

*Ahem*<br /><br />That's "Twistor." And Penrose gave up on it many years ago.<br /><br />Also, Hawking's bet with Thorne had nothing whatsoever to do with the appearance of a Naked Singularity (which is literally, a Singularity without an event horizon). It involved the Information Paradox (can any information escape from beneath the event horizon?). <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[xmo1]

The quark on the string illuminates gravity. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>DenniSys.com</p> </div>

 

[origin]

<font color="yellow">The quark on the string illuminates gravity.</font><br /><br />Thanks for clearing that up. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[primordial]

Yevaud ! Thanks for helping me with my spelling of Twistor.<br />

 

[kmarinas86]

<font color="yellow">What causes Gravity??</font><br /><br />Anything that, if removed, would cause some gravity to disappear.

 

[xmo1]

We are really shooting in the dark here are we not?<br /><br />The scientists of the late 19th and early 20th century seemed to have been searching for an elusive element (particle or force) that would account for gaps in their understanding of the universe. From that came the motivation that produced the great theories and inventions of the time.<br /><br />I think that element is still missing, but may be found in the experiments to slow and stop light, where if the right thing is slowed or the right combination of things are combined with that method something will sparkle, or maybe just the opposite; things will go dark.<br /><br />Did I fall off the beam? If that is too general I am thinking specifically of the scientists Tesla and Einstein, and I know some people would rather that the two names not be used in the same sentence. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>DenniSys.com</p> </div>

 

[kyle_baron]

<font color="yellow"><br />kyle_baron ! Singularities come in more than one configuration ie. naked( spinning and non-spinning). after all gravity is propagated thruogh space-time as a change in space-time, due to relative change in energy in the originating source, it could be a naked singularity undergoing a change in spin. Just think about it.</font><br /><br />Thank you for ordering me to think about it. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> I've thought about it, and I agree with you. Mass is a naked singularity in space-time, with no event horizon, because the mass can be seen with the property of light.<br /><br />Space itself, may be causing the particles to spin (temperature may be the reason), instead of a particle spinning by itself (internally and intrinsically). From this point, gravity may precipitate. If it sounds like I'm babbling on, I'm just speculating here. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4"><strong></strong></font></p> </div>

 

[vandivx]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>The Greeks: Four elements: Earth, Water, Air, and Fire<br /><br />Newton: Objects with mass attract each other...<br /><br />Einstein: Mass warps space time; spacetime appear as gravity.<br /><br />Then there's the Higgs Particles and Then String Theory..<br /><br />With all the theories floating around, how come this question hasn't been answered. Is there truth to this...<br /><br />I assume that gravity is like a magnet; we attract to it as metal attracts to magnetism.<br /><br />Could pressure be what causes gravity???<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />what a brazen cheek you have implying that Newton's and Einstein's theories are just two of the many theories 'floating around' because for one they are not floating but are long term accepted theories - Newton's for several hundred years and Einstein's for just about hundred years - and to top the insult off you group them together with Higgs and Strings both of which so far didn't show an iota of evidence they have any base in reality whatsoever, I leave Greeks aside because they didn't have any theory of gravitation and one can hardly fault them for that<br /><br />then you come with threadbare idea of 'pressure', my foot, if you knew some basic history of sciences you would know that theories based on some kind of pressure for gravitation were being proposed from times on Newton (pressure of particles flying about all over in space) to these days with Newton kindly explaining in one of his letters why the idea wouldn't work but people ignore or are ignorant of his explanation and keep coming up with the idea of pressure again and again (it really doesn't matter what sort of pressure it is, it just won't work in very basic motions that we see bodies perform out there in sky)<br />I believe the idea of pressure when it comes to gravitation was debunked on these very forums not too long ago (sometimes last year I think)<br /><br />vanDivX <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[vandivx]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>If you say it is a transfer of the higgs boson then the next question is why is there a transfer of the higgs boson.<br />Why do electrons repel each other? Because they are both negative. So why do negatives repel each other. Well they just do.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote> <br />that is unwarranted pesimism, after all every step we make give us something in return, its not like unless we know the bottom big WHY that we profit from it, on the contrary I suspect the ultimate answer would likely be useless for all practical purposes<br /><br />once we get deep enough answers for why this and why that so that everything connects to everything else, then I would be fully satisfied, currently we don't have that with most phenomena in physics including gravitation<br /><br />all that we can rationally desire is to get deep enough so that we are able to interconnect everything into one unifying physical picture and that implies knowledge of utilizing physics to our maximum benefit and the question why it all is as it is won't matter because once we understand any phenomenon in terms of other phenomena then that is what ultimate knowledge is about - integrated knowledge - that is the true holy grail<br /><br />yes it is ultimately circular truth and the most basic question why it is like this won't ever be known but that is the most we can rationally aspire to, by that I mean that asking such questions like "why is the universe here" and "what is its or our purpose in some grander supernatural scheme of things" are illogical, that is irrational, that's like asking why logic is the way it is, the answer is because the universe is as it is, some things are simply given and have to be accepted as given, to ask otherwise is to go beyond logic and there is nothing beyond it<br /><br />vanDivX <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[primordial]

kyle_baron That's all I was doing, speculating, after reading what you Guys put on the web I just add my 2 cents worth.<br />

 

[kyle_baron]

Nothing wrong with speculating. That's where new ideas come from. It may upset the "scientific purists", but who cares?<br /><br />I've edited my previous post and gave a reason for a particles spin being external. It could be the result of the temperature of space. At 0 Deg.K, all movement stops. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font size="4"><strong></strong></font></p> </div>

 

[majornature]

vanDivX:<font color="yellow"><br />what a brazen cheek you have implying that Newton's and Einstein's theories are just two of the many theories 'floating around' because for one they are not floating but are long term accepted theories - Newton's for several hundred years and Einstein's for just about hundred years - and to top the insult off you group them together with Higgs and Strings both of which so far didn't show an iota of evidence they have any base in reality whatsoever, I leave Greeks aside because they didn't have any theory of gravitation and one can hardly fault them for that </font><br /><br />You need to calm down. I respect Newton and Einstein's theories. And yes I know that they are highly respected for their work. But I should have the right to question their judgement because they guess at it just like some future scientist will and that's why I said it just "floating about" And that's why I mentioned such statements. If Newton and Einstein were wrong then so be it. Even geniuses can be wrong.<br /><br />And for two, I just thought pressure had something to do with it. I didn't say it was the cause. Please read my post again...THANK YOU!!!!<img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#14ea50"><strong><font size="1">We are born.  We live.  We experiment.  We rot.  We die.  and the whole process starts all over again!  Imagine That!</font><br /><br /><br /><img id="6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264" style="width:176px;height:247px" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/4/6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" width="276" height="440" /><br /></strong></font> </div>

 

[dryson]

The push and pull of atoms against each other creates gravity. When this occures at a very fast rate you have what is called a solid, if this occures as a slighting faster rate then you have a gas. When this occures at a slower rate you have a liquid. When you have all of these states of matter occuring at once against the core of the earth and the core spinning, exerting its own force back the atomic structure constantly breaks down and rebuilds. So a force(A) against a force(B) where the centrigual force(B) exerts its own force back on force(A) creates a constant pushing and pulling effect on all atoms contained in each force thus creating gravity. <br /><br />In theory.

 

[vandivx]

ok, I know you didn't mean it as it came out, just wanted to stress the point for all that passed the obvious meaning saying nothing<br /><br />and yeah, they will be corrected before long, Einstein that is, I don't think one can correct Newton anymore once he went through Einstiein's checkup although I wouldn't go personally as far as saying that he (Einstein) would prove wrong, just corrected but his essential ideas would stand up<br /><br />I find that pretentious to the maximum when people take the view that anyone who makes new advance in physics improving upon some old work that he thereby proves his predecessors work wrong, false, good for garbage can, Newton had the sense to say 'he stood on the shoulders of giants' and Einstein repeated that in his own way, great men typically show way more humbleness than rank and file labourer on the lowest rungs of sciences<br /><br />vanDivX<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

If that were true a bose-einstein condensate would have no mass. Since they do have mass, your idea is disproved. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[alokmohan]

You are disproportionately overconfident.Do some good research work.Do you know what is a crank?

 

[majornature]

What makes you say I'm overconfident? I'm not being overconfident <br /><br />I never say that they are wrong...heck I can't even prove that. But I did say: "Geniuses are sometimes wrong." That DOES NOT say the they are wrong...<br /><br />THANK YOU!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#14ea50"><strong><font size="1">We are born.  We live.  We experiment.  We rot.  We die.  and the whole process starts all over again!  Imagine That!</font><br /><br /><br /><img id="6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264" style="width:176px;height:247px" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/4/6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" width="276" height="440" /><br /></strong></font> </div>

 

[Anonymous]

There is somewhere, the connection of heat with gravity.<br /><br />"Newton: Objects with mass attract each other... "<br />Space has certain unknown characteristics, and in all probablity is gravity a charateristic too.<br />When there is matter there is energy, they create one another.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font size="2"><p align="center"><br /><img id="a9529085-d63d-481e-9277-832ea5d58917" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/2/a9529085-d63d-481e-9277-832ea5d58917.Large.gif" alt="blog post photo" /><br /><font color="#339966">Oops! this is my alien friend.</font></p><p align="center"><font color="#ff6600">╬→Ť╠╣є ’ M€ ’<br />╬→ Ðôŵņ2Ëãřŧĥ ๑<br />╬→ ЙДm€ :Varsha<br /></font></p></font></strong> </div>

 

[R1]

Here's 2 video links on the gravity experiments LISA and LIGO<br /><br /><br />http://youtube.com/watch?v=DrWwWcA_Hgw&mode=related&search=<br /><br /><br />http://youtube.com/watch?v=RzZgFKoIfQI&mode=related&search=<br /><br /><br /><br />and a video link about einsteins spacetime/gravity:<br /> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpbGuuGosAY&mode=related&search=<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[majornature]

Interesting videos from you tube. But that does explain what causes gravity or did I miss something?<br /><br />P.S. One of those guys sounded like Sylvester Stallone <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="2" color="#14ea50"><strong><font size="1">We are born.  We live.  We experiment.  We rot.  We die.  and the whole process starts all over again!  Imagine That!</font><br /><br /><br /><img id="6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264" style="width:176px;height:247px" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/4/6e5c6b4c-0657-47dd-9476-1fbb47938264.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" width="276" height="440" /><br /></strong></font> </div>

 

[R1]

no, you are correct, that remains unexplained<img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" /><br /><br />I'm just sharing info, thoughts, etc. and learning too,<br /> and linking and anything that can help many us understand the works<br />in progress too<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /><br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bjarne777]

A simple law of nature reveals the cause of<br />- gravity<br />- drak matter<br />- dark energy<br />- black holes<br />www.science27.com<br />