Why I hate the holodeck

twilight1958 · Nov 1, 2006

Yes, I did notice that, Mario stayed in the middle of the screen, while the back ground moved. I love the concept of the holodeck, wouldn't it be cool if we could just push a button and escape reality for a while, in any surroundings we wanted? I never tried drugs btw lol <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

Saiph · Nov 1, 2006

if it wasn't for the episode where they cram all those people into the holodeck, I've seen nothing that can't be achieved with clever use of their holograms, and force field generators. If the holodeck can simulate sound originating from any region within it then it should also be able to completely nullify, or alter any sound within it as well using interference. So two people start walking apart, you get seperate holographic scenes for each, and a "treadmill" to keep them from actually going to far in any direction. Throw in holographs and force fields to alter their perceptions of eachother (or completely occlude the other person and just render an appropraitly scaled one) and alter sounds, and you could do a pretty good job. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

Kalstang · Nov 1, 2006

Saiph says: if it wasn't for the episode where they cram all those people into the holodeck, Actually if you'll remember in that episode Warf and his brother (brother thru his adoptive parents) tried to keep the people in one area minimizeing the chance that they would find an "edge" to thier world. Also there weren't that many people. only about 30 in all. And I do seem to remember somewhere that they had a holodeck that was around 100ft by 100ft long. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~ Guns dont kill people. People kill people.Solar System </div>

PistolPete · Nov 1, 2006

I think you're thinking of the Romulans. In the episode where Riker supposedly wakes up 20 or so years into the future they show a Romulan holodeck. It appeared to be biger than a blimp hanger (supposedly they hadn't figured out the whole "treadmill" thing yet). But then again, the whole episode turned out to be in some ailen child's head, so I doubt that was an actual Romulan holodeck. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai </div>

Kalstang · Nov 1, 2006

Nope i'm quite sure it was Warf and his human brother. I watched it the other day <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />. The planet they were on was going to hell in a hand basket and they were takeing cover in caves. Something had happened to the Enterprise to where some of the systems were malfunctioning, includeing parts of the holodeck. Which is why the "main" kid from that colony figured out somewhat what was going on. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />....jeez I am a trekkie <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~ Guns dont kill people. People kill people.Solar System </div>

PistolPete · Nov 1, 2006

I think we are talking about different episodes here. I do remember the one you are talking about though. If I remember the Enterprise D's blueprints (I have them in my closet somewhere) it had a whole crapload of holodecks, and IIRC they came in a few diffrent sizes. I'm not sure if any were 100'x100' though. Remember in the day when saying that you have seen every TNG episode was considered an achievement? Now days, all you have to do is buy the DVDs. Where's the fun in that? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai </div>

Kalstang · Nov 1, 2006

PistolPete says: I think we are talking about different episodes here. Possible. PistolPete says: If I remember the Enterprise D's blueprints (I have them in my closet somewhere) Ok you have just passed beyond my trekkieness nerdometer <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> lol <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~ Guns dont kill people. People kill people.Solar System </div>

Kalstang · Nov 1, 2006

PistolPete says: Remember in the day when saying that you have seen every TNG episode was considered an achievement? Now days, all you have to do is buy the DVDs. Where's the fun in that? Yep <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />. And your right..its no fun anymore <img src="/images/icons/frown.gif" />. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. "Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~ Guns dont kill people. People kill people.Solar System </div>

malfunkshun · Nov 2, 2006

the thing i never liked about the holodeck was it was just too damn cumbersome for its own good. a VR simulation with full sense immersion (think Matrix style) is much more likely to develop as a technology than a physical room using holograms and transporter technology to fool the person into thinking he's somewhere he's not.

hracctsold · Nov 2, 2006

Hey, I'm on PistolPete's side. I not only have the "D" blueprints in a box it came in, I also had the original 1701 plans that came in the plastic folder, until I think it fell apart or something of that nature. I also think it does takes something away from being able to claim to have seen all the episodes when it is so easy now to do it. Of course, I'm from the age of B.C., before computers and DVD's.

yevaud · Nov 2, 2006

B.C. = Before Cellphones. *Ditto* <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

hracctsold · Nov 2, 2006

That too. But I am now just on my second one, because of a very bad burn experience with Sprint and their 2 year plan to rob and flustrate. I now am working with Tracfone, and it so far is also a struggle. But my wife and others I know are not having any problems, so it may just be me.

djtt · Nov 6, 2006

"Marybeth?" "Yeah, Clem?" "Why'm I grubbin' in the dirt for food, when we're on a Starship?" "Dunno, Clem. Ask the Frenchie with the uptight attitude. Cap'n Pee-card 'r summit'" <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" />

djtt · Nov 8, 2006

admitted, it just is kinda stupid

zer01zero · Nov 12, 2006

Geeze fellas, I don't know what you are worried about. If I was to go for an explanation, spacefires and Saiphs would be the best. I like the idea of the 'treadmill' and 'forcefield' - uniquely trekkie I think. Leo, I think you are 'overthinking' it a bit. The joy of the show (any show for that matter) is the suspension of disbelief. If you 'get into' the story, then the errors of the technology don't matter that much. An example: If the medical advances are so great, then why was Picard still suffering from male pattern baldness, hmmmm. That irked me for ages, but one day I just let it go.<img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />....now I enjoy watching him continually adjust his jacket....(let it go shaun, let it go)

PistolPete · Nov 12, 2006

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />If the medical advances are so great, then why was Picard still suffering from male pattern baldness, hmmmm. <hr /></blockquote> Because bald is beautifull, that's why!!!!! <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> PS: If bald is beautifull then this may explain why, with the thick mop of hair that I have on my head, that chicks flee from me as if I have the bubonic plauge or something. It's either that or the fact that I own the NCC-1701-D blueprints. One or the other. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai </div>

zer01zero · Nov 12, 2006

I guess it depends on whether the blueprints are the first topic of conversation, as in: PP: Hi I'm pete and I have the blueprints to the starship Enterprise. Attractive Young Girl: AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH. You know, if that's the case, might I suggest a different approach. <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />

Leovinus · Nov 13, 2006

I never thought about the baldness before. Now you've ruined the show for me. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vagueship · Nov 13, 2006

You could program a girl in the holodeck who would like the blueprints. Don't think she would be my type though.

zer01zero · Nov 13, 2006

Sorry Leo, didn't mean to burst the bubble. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> I vaugely recall a reference to it in a first or second series episode where Doc Crusher and Picard are talking, but I cannot remember what was said. Maybe personal choice or something. Have to re-watch a few eps I guess.

Leovinus · Nov 13, 2006

They probably shied away from eugenics after their dealings with Khan in the late 20th century. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

zer01zero · Nov 13, 2006

"You could program a girl in the holodeck who would like the blueprints." Cool idea, but I see a fatal flaw in your cunning plan - access to a working holodeck is hard to get without the proper clearances and LOTS of drugs.

zer01zero · Nov 13, 2006

zer0 shouts: <with raised fists clenched, and trembling violently> KHHAAAAAAANN !!!!!!!!!!!

vastbluesky92 · Nov 15, 2006

Does anyone know why everyone always goes to holodeck 3? I remember 1 or 2 instances in which another holodeck was mentioned, but besides that it was always holodeck 3. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --____________________________________________-- Don't be too hard on me...I'm only in PHY 1010

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PistolPete · Nov 16, 2006

Holodeck three has ahhh.... umm.... certain special programs. Hence why it's so popular. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> So, again we are defeated. This victory belongs to the farmers, not us.-Kambei Shimada from the movie Seven Samurai </div>

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