Americans are not on Mars, never went to the moon too

[luciusverus]

Didn't we have someone else recently on SDC who also posted inane arguments.........??

 

[votefornimitz]

Don't worry guys i speak conspiracyish. Here the translation.<br /><br /><i> As I have said, I am not interested in shadows. <br />I repeat: <br />The earth runs at 108,000 kph around the</i> <b>(nonexistant)</b> <i> sun along its orbit, Mars</i><b> (which doosn't exist)</b><i> does almost the same along another orbit, you can't see your probe</i><b> (which is a fake)</b><i>, you can't see Mars </i><b> (because it isn't there)</b> <i> but you are able to drive your probe to a target of 500 million kilometers distant </i><b>( if the universe that is nothing but a NASA lie where that big)</b><br /><br />Suppose your probe can transmit a radio signal (really impossible: it has not enough power) to your control tower. <br /><br />How can they locate where is your probe receiving only a radio signal from the infinite universe<b>(if it existed) </b><br /><br />To go to Mars is not a matter of science fiction.<b> (Because that term is copyrighted and Mars isn't there)</b> <br /><br /><i> I'm sorry but you never went to the moon </i><b> (What Moon?)</b> <i>. Also lunar landing was a movie. </i><b> (You can't land on whats not there)</b> <i><br /><br />All those who say Americans never went to the moon till now have talked about wrong shadows, no stars, too short horizons in moon landing images and they are right, but no one has talked about the most important reason of Apollo hoax. <br /><br />Helicopters </i><b> (which are barely real)</b> <i> are not too easy to fly. They can fly them because the thrust is on the top and gravity forces act under the rotor, the pivot point, and act as counterpoise to engine thrust. <br /><br />The lunar module has a rocket engine on the bottom and gravity forces act above it and tend to turn it upside-down in all directions. </i><b> (You can ride what was the "lunar module" in cedear point OH)</b> <i><br /><br />No one would have been able in 1969, without the powerful computers of today, to keep lunar module vertical for 14 kilometres before landing</i> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[Leovinus]

Well I just have to throw in the towel on this one. You got me beat. If I can't even convince you that human beings can figure out how to transmit and receive radio waves, what chance do I have to convince you that we send space probes out and control them by radio command? None. <br /><br />I wonder -- do you ever listen to music on your radio? Probably not -- radio is impossible.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[petepan]

thought so...cheers <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[petepan]

bigbrain said...<font color="yellow"> .....you can't see Mars.....</font><br /><br />hmmm, so what was that orange looking thing i looked at with my telescope last night?<br /><br />??? <img src="/images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

 

[skyeagle409]

bigbrain---Americans are not on Mars, never went to the moon too <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />Considering the mindset of the communist, are you implying that the Soviet Union was part of an American conspiracy? <br /><br />After all, the Soviet Union had the means to make the determination as to whether we went to the moon or not and taking into consideration their proclamations to the whole world of their technological superiority in space over the West, do you really think the communist would have allowed the United States get away with any fraud as far as moon landings were concerned? <br /><br />I don't think so!!<br /><br />

 

[skyeagle409]

<br />bigbrain---If you try to keep it vertical making it to go backwards, using its rocket engine as a brake, you will see it is impossible. <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />Please, don't tell that to the folks who flew this rocket backwards to a landing.<br /><br />http://www.clavius.org/techdcx.html

 

[votefornimitz]

Skyeagle! You are back!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

Hi Vote,<br /><br />I had decided to take a break in the action. It's amazing that some folks are claiming we never went to the moon or Mars and that effectively puts them in the same boat as those who are still claiming the Earth is flat.

 

[votefornimitz]

Hmmm, your right, and the thing is, you are uassaly on the odd-side of the arguement. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

<br />bigbrain---I'm sorry but you never went to the moon. Also lunar landing was a movie. <br /><br /><br />bigbrain, <br /><br />You confusing the Apollo moon missions with the Hollywood movie, "Capricorn One." <br /><br /><br /><br />bigbrain---The lunar module has a rocket engine on the bottom and gravity forces act above it and tend to turn it upside-down in all directions. <br /><br />Sky---What difference does that make? Where is the pilot's weight distribution in relation to this flying craft's engine?<br /><br />http://www.hiller.org/flying-platform.shtml <br /><br />

 

[skyeagle409]

Bigbrain's claims have raised my eyebrows passed my hairline.

 

[votefornimitz]

Skyeagle, on another thread, could you post you personall UFO experience, i am a bit more open minded since last time you tried to convince me.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

<br /><br />No one would have been able in 1969, without the powerful computers of today, to keep lunar module vertical for 14 kilometres before landing because the pilot had to be able to react continuously to those gravity forces that made lunar module enormously unstable. <br /><br />bigbrain, <br /><br />The Harrier jet has been doing it years before the first Apollo moon landing. <br /><br />http://www.pksip.com/jumpjet.html <br /><br />Why would the United States spend billions of dollars on fake moon landings and scientific explorations to Mars? There is no way you could hush up everyone involved.

 

[skyeagle409]

bigbrain---Try to balance a coke can with your finger. <br /><br />bigbrain,<br /><br />What's the point? Generally, rocket engines are placed on the aft end of a rocket. Are you implying that it would be more practical to place the rocket engines in the nose cone?<br /><br />

 

[skyeagle409]

bigbrain---All those who say Americans never went to the moon till now have talked about wrong shadows, no stars, too short horizons in moon landing images and they are right, but no one has talked about the most important reason of Apollo hoax. <br /><br />Bigbrain,<br /><br />Apparently, someone left behind those mirrors on the moon.<br /><br />http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/06may_lunarranging.htm<br /><br /><br />

 

[telfrow]

You know, bigbrain, I been thinking about what you've posted here all afternoon. <br /><br />If you’re truly serious about what you’ve posted, I feel sorry for you. <br /><br />I really do.<br /><br />Not because you’ve chosen to turn your back the wealth of readily available information and documentation that prove, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that we have made our first, tentative steps into space…and not because in an age of instant and nearly unlimited access to that information, you’ve chosen to remain uneducated and uninformed.<br /><br />It’s because you’ll never be able to appreciate the picture posted below, which was taken probe Voyager 1 on February 14, 1990, as it entered the outer fringes of our solar system. The on board camera was turned and took a picture of Planet Earth from a distance of 6.4 billion kilometers (4 billion miles). We’re just a tiny point of light that takes up .012 of a pixel, dwarfed by the vastness of space….a Pale Blue Dot.<br /><br />It’s because you’ll never be able to appreciate – or understand - these words, written by Carl Sagan, to accompany that photo:<br /><br /><font color="yellow">Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there — on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. <br /><br />The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory an</font> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[lowendfreq]

Did Clemintine take any photos of the the landing sites?<br /><br />Anyhow, until Bigbrain is standing on the moon him/her self - it never happened / its impossible.<br /><br />Its not open for discussion it seems.

 

[yevaud]

Packet: Good God, yes. I played that in High School...written in RSTS-E Basic on a PDP-11/45.<br /><br />How's that for archaic. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

lowendfreq, <br /><br />I not aware of any close-up landing photos by Clemintine. <br /><br />lowendfreq---Anyhow, until Bigbrain is standing on the moon him/her self - it never happened / its impossible. <br /><br />lowendfreq, <br /><br />There are still folks who believe the Earth is flat and won't believe tnat it is round until they are blasted off into space in order for them to see for themselves, but a nice trip in the SR-71 would have been sufficient to see that world is round. <br /><br />I put those who continue to claim that we have never landed anything on the moon or on Mars, in the same boat as these people. <br /><br />http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm <br /><br />http://www.flat-earth.org/ <br /><br /><br />

 

[yevaud]

That probably wouldn't work for BigBrain. I'm certain he doesn't believe planes can fly, either. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

Yevaud,<br /> <br />I am not sure but t can never be excluded that this guy just might be playng a game for the fun of it.

 

[yevaud]

Several of us have suspected this...no, have been fairly certain of it...for some time now.<br /><br />However, unlike many trolls, the argument is weak, the evidence non-existant, and the methods flawed. It's really more of a form of entertainment to me, and likely many of the others.<br /><br />Where's Professor Irwin Corey when you need him? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[skyeagle409]

Yevaud---Where's Professor Irwin Corey when you need him? <br /><br /><br />I last saw him at the "Car Wash" in Los Angeles carrying a bottle in a sack!'

 

[yevaud]

Dang. And he was the best nut who could explain real science to the other nuts in decades.<br /><br />Big Brain: <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /><br /><br />What more can I say? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>