Americans are not on Mars, never went to the moon too

[yevaud]

Ok Big Brain.<br /><br />Everyone usually has a personal reason for their particular username. Me, it's from "A Wizard of Earthsea," by Ursula K. LeGuin. <br /><br />Now your's is either the biggest ironic hoax there is, or you're dead serious. In either case, there's not much to this thread, except some gibberish IN CAPITAL LETTERS all of the time. <br /><br />You have stated the wildest nonsense, violated multiple known ways that physical laws do and don't work, listed chapter and verse of virtual scientific Mother Goose stories. <br /><br />*Feh*<br /><br />Thank you. I have been very entertained, if in a somewhat bemused way. Because you're either the biggest spoof-artist there is, or you're dead serious about this. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[a_lost_packet_]

<font color="yellow">Yevaud - Packet: Good God, yes. I played that in High School...written in RSTS-E Basic on a PDP-11/45. How's that for archaic. </font><br /><br />lol I wasn't too far behind you. Although I didn't get to play it on a mainframe. We had TRS and Vic's. I did help run the punchcard machine a few times though. Damn thing was the size of a VW. I don't think I successfully pirated my own copy of Lunar Lander until 1980. Still, vector graphics /> ascii any day. <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Two of the guys I went to High school with effectively invented IRC'ing in '75, on that same "network." Very cool. I still remember chatting with someone at the other city High school, about 10 miles away. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Look at this fine real image of Spirit:<br />http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/spacecraft/2003rover.html <br /><br />Very nice, all your images are real, not at all faked.<br /><br />But I am not interested in pictures.<br /><br />skyeagle409 wrote:<br />"bigbrain---If you try to keep it vertical making it to go backwards, using its rocket engine as a brake, you will see it is impossible. <br />bigbrain, <br />Please, don't tell that to the folks who flew this rocket backwards to a landing. <br /><br />http://www.clavius.org/techdcx.html" <br /><br />In "clavius.org" I have read:<br /><br />"The best evidence for the stability of the LM design is empirical. Find a yardstick or meter stick. Try to balance it vertically on end on your hand. You probably won't be able to do it for very long. But balance it horizontally, using the graduations as a guide in finding the center of mass. You should be able to do this easily, and may even be able to move your hand around without upsetting the stick. The mass and moment of inertia are identical in these cases, but you apply less torque by off-axis support when the stick is horizontal".<br /><br />What a beautiful example of mechanics of crap gravity forces.<br /><br />LUNAR MODULE IS NOT A METER STICK. YOU ARE COMPLETELY CRAZY AS WHEN YOU BELIEVE REAL THOSE IMAGES OF MARS THAT LOOKS LIKE A CUCUMBER.<br /><br />The thrust vector is vertical and the thrust force acts upwards.<br />The engine is not in the center of mass because it discharges its force downwards.<br />When lunar module is landing, the engine acts as a brake like your finger under a coke can.<br />LUNAR MODULE IS NOT A HORIZONTAL METER STICK.<br />THIS IS A SLOVENLINESS.<br /><br />Gravity forces, when the engine acts as a brake during landing, tend to fall off your ugly piece of metal in any directions at 360 degrees. <br /><br></br>

 

[spaceinvador_old]

bigbrain, you the man... I mean you know a lot of things, like a brainiac. I don't dare start to say if we have lied about some of our accomplishments in space.<br /><br />I'm newer here and just find it how funny bigbrain can pick at your minds. The guy's an educated mystery...<br /><br />I find him or her interesting...

 

[bigbrain]

Thank you. Finally someone agrees a little with me.<br /><br />Hey, I have found this interesting picture:<br />http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2001/24/<br /><br />"Hubble Captures Best View of Mars Ever Obtained From Earth:<br /><br />Frosty white water ice clouds and swirling orange dust storms above a vivid rusty landscape reveal Mars as a dynamic planet in this sharpest view ever obtained by an Earth-based telescope. The Earth-orbiting Hubble telescope snapped this picture on June 26, when Mars was approximately 43 million miles (68 million km) from Earth -- its closest approach to our planet since 1988. Hubble can see details as small as 10 miles (16 km) across. Especially striking is the large amount of seasonal dust storm activity seen in this image. One large storm system is churning high above the northern polar cap [top of image], and a smaller dust storm cloud can be seen nearby. Another large duststorm is spilling out of the giant Hellas impact basin in the Southern Hemisphere [lower right]". <br /><br />And you have gone there with a powerful software placed on your probe that is able to drive it to Mars looking at the stars and, instead of landing where there is life ("One large storm system is churning high above the northern polar cap [top of image], and a smaller dust storm cloud can be seen nearby"), have you gone here?:<br />http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/365/2P158774517EFFA2DHP2352R1M1.JPG<br /><br />in an uncultivated field of Sahara.<br /><br />At Nasa works a lot of idiot people.<br /> <br />

 

[telfrow]

1) The link in your post doesn't work;<br />2) <font color="red">Don't Shout!</font>..European, Canadian or American, it's <b>rude</b>.<br /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Now you can see that image.

 

[luciusverus]

<b>Thank you. Finally someone agrees a little with me. </b><br /><br />I don't recall reading that he agrees with you.....<br />

 

[Leovinus]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>And you have gone there with a powerful software placed on your probe that is able to drive it to Mars looking at the stars and, instead of landing where there is life ("One large storm system is churning high above the northern polar cap [top of image], and a smaller dust storm cloud can be seen nearby"), have you gone here?:<br />http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/365/2P158774517EFFA2DHP2352R1M1.JPG <br /><br />in an uncultivated field of Sahara.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Are you saying that dust storms are alive? Or that dust storms occur where there is life? Or that you believe that Mars has life? Landing sites were chosen based on 1) increasing the chances of a successful landing, 2) landing where water may have been a factor in "geologic" history, 3) landing near equatorial regions to provide sufficient sunlight for solar panels.<br /><br />I challenge you to find the place in the Sahara where this photo was taken. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Currrent Content: 0% + 0% = 0% <br /><br />SDC'ers: 25<br />Big Brain: 0 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

I have understood you are not expert in mechanics of forces.<br />I need a physicist (possibly someone not working at Nasa) that explains why the lunar module an the famous meter stick are the same thing.

 

[luciusverus]

Physicist............??<br /><br />Sounds more like you need a Psychiatrist...............!!<br /><br />Any body know where to find one around here..........??<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[huey_pilot]

Remember, not all probes that were supposed to go to mars made it there.

 

[votefornimitz]

*Eastern European* Vets take a look into vuor subconsience. Ves, Ves, i see, vou are suffering from pre-insanity idoicy and vust be euthinized on ve spot. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

I am not eastern European.<br /><br />Hey, go to:<br />http://www3.uakron.edu/modlang/spheres/ua01.html <br /><br />You will never able to deform horizon like a cucumber.<br />Only images of Mars look like a cucumber.<br /><br />What crap of wide-angle lenses do they use at Nasa?

 

[luciusverus]

Do you have a hidden interest in cucumbers........??<br /><br />Maybe trying to send a subliminal message for us to eat more fruit and vegetables perhaps.........??<br /><br /><img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[votefornimitz]

No, but that is the type of accent use to type it my friend, as for you conspirancy theory, http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/top10apollohoaxes.html<br /><br />I have previously read this and it disproves any of you stupid peices of evidence. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">I am not eastern European.</font><br /><br />So where are you from bigbrain? A country will do...<br /><br />I'm really curious...just what kind of job does someone with a brain as big as yours hold down anyway? <br /><br />Or are you still in school...still learning how to use all that gray matter? College? High school? Middle school? <br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Before you must admit that this image is faked:<br /><br />http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/r/513/2R171909385EFFAAKMP1305L0M1.JPG<br /><br />A normal wide-angle lens for panoramas can not deform a sphere like a potato.

 

[telfrow]

<font color="yellow">Before you must admit that this image is faked</font><br /><br />Nope, ain't gonna do it. Personally, I think it's real and <b>you're</b> fake, but that's another story...<br /><br />Just curious. If you don't want to make small talk, never mind. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

You wrote:<br />"No, but that is the type of accent use to type it my friend, as for you conspirancy theory, http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/top10apollohoaxes.html <br /><br />I have previously read this and it disproves any of you stupid peices of evidence". <br /><br />REMEMBER, GULLIBLE GUY: YOU MUST REASON WITH YOUR HEAD, DO NOT TRUST TOO MUCH OTHER PEOPLE.<br />MANY PERSONS TELL ONLY A LOT OF CRAPS.<br /><br /><br /><br />

 

[votefornimitz]

Well, don't trust other people is a parodox, which you didn't realize, proving my intellectual superioty over you. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <span style="color:#993366">In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves...</span> </div>

 

[bigbrain]

Hey, telfrow<br /><br />Have you noticed? When I am right, Leovinus does not show my images.

 

[telfrow]

Hey bigbrain...<br /><br />Have you noticed? Sometimes you write perfect English sent<b>E</b>nces.<br /><br /><i>Edit:</i>There you go, bigbrain.<br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <strong><font color="#3366ff">Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild.</font> - <font color="#3366ff"><em>Tennyson</em></font></strong> </div>