Battle Star Gallatica

Saiph · Apr 18, 2008

Apparently the latest episode of battlestar had a live stream on the official battlestar webpage, starting at 6am (pacific)...and reran it every hour on the hour, for 8 hours.  Guess what?  That's exactly during my work shift.My fiancee watched it (I woke her up getting ready for work), and she won't tell me a single thing about the episode...and she usually doesn't mind talking about them just a bit... Anyway, they did it once, so keep an eye out for it next week! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

lildreamer · Apr 18, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Apparently the latest episode of battlestar had a live stream on the official battlestar webpage, starting at 6am (pacific)...and reran it every hour on the hour, for 8 hours.  Guess what?  That's exactly during my work shift.My fiancee watched it (I woke her up getting ready for work), and she won't tell me a single thing about the episode...and she usually doesn't mind talking about them just a bit... Anyway, they did it once, so keep an eye out for it next week! Posted by Saiph</DIV> ok just watched episode 3 - hmmm I was hoping they didn't jump the shark here (hate using that term) but this was a snoozer.....aside from the body count going back up a bit not much here  except maybe they are pacing themselves....for those who havent seen it yet I wont fracken give away any fracken secrets<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vidargander · Apr 19, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I really loved the "Light" and "Dark" in B5.  In the end, it was shown that it isn't the extremes of "Order" or "Chaos" that is ultimately for the best - It's a blending of the two. Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> I'm still at the third season of the new BSG series. When the waiting got too much for me, I simply had to see the last ten episodes of the classic BSG. Previously, I only saw the first half of the box because I lost interest. Now with the new series, I found that the classic episodes are rather interesting. First of all, main characters have the same names, like Starbuck, Adama, Baltar etc. Furthermore, the new theme is much more like the classic than I remembered.  Knowing how the classic BSG end, I can’t resist speculating in how the new BSG will develop. Classic Baltar turns out to be a kind of nice guy, - not by free will but out of the circumstances. There is a candid bad guy indifferent to a religious ‘dark side’ that controls Baltar and uses humans. There was a global conflict between the Western and Easter alliance that would have ended in a nuclear holocaust, if the Battlestar hadn’t interfered in time. A being of light tells that Terra isn’t Earth after all. The last episode is a major anti-climax that most likely should have been added with the text ‘To be continued’. The last impression is what worries me. Remembering the B5 series, with its 100 episodes, it ended in a tremendous anti-climax. My impression is that it should have had one more season, - or a least a concluding movie. All we got was some spin-off series. I have seen the new B5  DVD ‘The untold stories’. It seems to be a fair attempt to complete the B5 saga, but seeing the interviews in the extra materiel, I get the impression that it has become much too hard to do. I think BSG is brilliant. I also believe that the writers have it all in place. However, even though Humans can settle with the Cylons, I suspect that the real human dogmatics are too hard to overcome. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>ok just watched episode 3 - hmmm I was hoping they didn't jump the shark here (hate using that term) but this was a snoozer.....aside from the body count going back up a bit not much here  except maybe they are pacing themselves....for those who havent seen it yet I wont fracken give away any fracken secrets Posted by lildreamer</DIV> Fracken A.I must say, as slow going as it was, it did give allot of information.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Fracken A.I must say, as slow going as it was, it did give allot of information.  Posted by bearack</DIV> I agree whats up with that one series 8 - wanting re-assignment?Its sad to see the other 4 starting to come across like the other cylon models.  Especially, wacking the Cheif's wife. (spoiler sorry people)  That one model - aid to the Pres, we need to watch her very carefully. Something tells me she is like a counter part to the priest modelStar Bucks dementia was a little unsettling,..I can see a Mutiny on the Bounty scenario occurring.  Wiping out the Base ship and possible ending the civil war real quick...hmmm makes me think they are trying to mislead us.  I feel they have survived and will come back with vengeance.allot of information but definitely a slow boat to china approach...<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-yell.gif" border="0" alt="Yell" title="Yell" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I agree whats up with that one series 8 - wanting re-assignment?Its sad to see the other 4 starting to come across like the other cylon models.  Especially, wacking the Cheif's wife. (spoiler sorry people)  That one model - aid to the Pres, we need to watch her very carefully. Something tells me she is like a counter part to the priest modelStar Bucks dementia was a little unsettling,..I can see a Mutiny on the Bounty scenario occurring.  Wiping out the Base ship and possible ending the civil war real quick...hmmm makes me think they are trying to mislead us.  I feel they have survived and will come back with vengeance.allot of information but definitely a slow boat to china approach... Posted by lildreamer</DIV> Actually, what the presidential aid did could be viewed in a couple of different ways.  It was life or death for the four of them and it was clearly indicated the cheifs wife hated cylons.  Noticed how she made sure to save the baby.I just don't know.  I think 3 of the four will be dedicated to fighting the cylons but I also have a feeling the the presidents aid will have some sort of connection to the Diana model. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Actually, what the presidential aid did could be viewed in a couple of different ways.  It was life or death for the four of them and it was clearly indicated the cheifs wife hated cylons.  Noticed how she made sure to save the baby.I just don't know.  I think 3 of the four will be dedicated to fighting the cylons but I also have a feeling the the presidents aid will have some sort of connection to the Diana model. Posted by bearack</DIV> ahhh - yes saving the baby - which if you think about it is a new hybrid....So evenif the chief was not activated he was still a cylon sleeping( so to speak) with the enemy - us humans. That would make the child a hybrid therefore worth keeping. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>ahhh - yes saving the baby - which if you think about it is a new hybrid....So evenif the chief was not activated he was still a cylon sleeping( so to speak) with the enemy - us humans. That would make the child a hybrid therefore worth keeping. Posted by lildreamer</DIV> I'm still a tad confused on this how they are able to procreate with humans.  Matter of fact, I absolutely forgot what happened to Boomers baby.So you remember? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I'm still a tad confused on this how they are able to procreate with humans.  Matter of fact, I absolutely forgot what happened to Boomers baby.So you remember? Posted by bearack</DIV> Last I remember she was picked up on new caprica, then her mom picked her up from the station. Sent to the medical facility after that I can't recall? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Last I remember she was picked up on new caprica, then her mom picked her up from the station. Sent to the medical facility after that I can't recall? Posted by lildreamer</DIV> That baby was extremely important, at least during that time frame.  Strange or maybe intentional that nothing has been heard of that baby and we haven't seen it since the New Caprica episode.  I think maybe Boomers baby might have a stored surprise in the future for us. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

Saiph · Apr 22, 2008

hmmm....Now we have 2 cylon hybrid babies... After watching that, I begin to wonder if cylons can be anything but bastards... they certainly have an odd empathy with others...  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

doublehelix · Apr 22, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>hmmm....Now we have 2 cylon hybrid babies... After watching that, I begin to wonder if cylons can be anything but bastards... they certainly have an odd empathy with others...  Posted by Saiph</DIV>Who are the parents of the two cylon hybrid babies?-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

lildreamer · Apr 22, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Who are the parents of the two cylon hybrid babies?-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> boomers/ series 8and now the chief... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 22, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Who are the parents of the two cylon hybrid babies?-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> First = Lt. Sharon "Boomer" Valerii / Lt. Sharon "Athena" Agathon / Cylon #8 AKA Hot MAMMA and Capt. Karl C. "Helo" Agathon Second = Chief Petty Officer Galen Tyrol  and Petty Officer Cally Henderson Tyrol <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

doublehelix · Apr 22, 2008

Thanks, lildreamer and bearack!-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Apr 22, 2008

Spoiler alert for those not having seen at least the prior seasons.         OK, I just got a chance to watch this season's 3 (so far) episodes.  I'm still thinking BSG jumped the shark with the latest 4 skin jobs and Starbuck's "death".  The Cylons seem to be intended to be a mirror held up to humanity for they have all the same faults we do.  I think Baltar's acquittal and the crossbreeding btw skin jobs and humans are ndications that BSG will reconcile the war btw humans and Cylons.  If humans can live with other humans, they can live with Cylons.  Perhaps the storyline will have this ending up be nessecary for the survival of either/both races (procreation-wise). So I'm going to speculate this season's prime conflict will be with whatever force took Starbuck.  Right now it's following the old BSG plotline of angels and demons too closely for my comfort, I hope something more original is in store.  Either Starbuck is right about the pathway to Earth or the President (and her religion) is.  Perhaps the 13'th tribe left clues/markers on ther trip from Kobol and are now trying, many centuries later, to prevent the remants from catching up to them ?  Perhaps BSG finds the 13'th tribe only to be rejected by them ?So why wasn't Tigh "activated" earlier when he could have been decisive in battle ? Why aren't the humans using the virus to rid the fleet of any sleeper agents ?  Or at least using their captured #6 and/or Athena to figure out how to detect skin jobs ?  If Cylon skin jobs can be manufactured, why are they so interested in breeding with humans ?  Since the final 5 skin jobs are secrets to the Cyclons, are we to assume they are not downloadable ?  Where would their ressurection ship be ?  Seems to me that Tigh's service (Boomer's too) and Anders noteriety would mean they just couldn't have been given false birth records (and such) and injected into Caprican society as adults.  Where they substitued for the real humans at some point ?  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

bearack · Apr 23, 2008

"Since the final 5 skin jobs are secrets to the Cyclons, are we to assume they are not downloadable ?  Where would their ressurection ship be ?  Seems to me that Tigh's service (Boomer's too) and Anders noteriety would mean they just couldn't have been given false birth records (and such) and injected into Caprican society as adults.  Where they substitued for the real humans at some point ?"I find it also intriguing that the 5 secret cylons (or at least 4 of them) ended up on Gallatica and weren't destroyed on the initial attack of Caprica. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>"Since the final 5 skin jobs are secrets to the Cyclons, are we to assume they are not downloadable ?  Where would their ressurection ship be ?  Seems to me that Tigh's service (Boomer's too) and Anders noteriety would mean they just couldn't have been given false birth records (and such) and injected into Caprican society as adults.  Where they substitued for the real humans at some point ?"I find it also intriguing that the 5 secret cylons (or at least 4 of them) ended up on Gallatica and weren't destroyed on the initial attack of Caprica. Posted by bearack</DIV> convenient plot line that's what I mean by "jump the shark".  There would of been no other way to introduce them in my opinion. If they did they could of introduced another race they find along the way and those 5 could of have complete control over them. Making them the thirteenth tribe...or have the 5 on Earth and they started the whole 13 colony saga...humans are the failed experiments of the cylons..... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>convenient plot line that's what I mean by "jump the shark".  There would of been no other way to introduce them in my opinion. If they did they could of introduced another race they find along the way and those 5 could of have complete control over them. Making them the thirteenth tribe...or have the 5 on Earth and they started the whole 13 colony saga...humans are the failed experiments of the cylons..... Posted by lildreamer</DIV> What do you think of this as a plot twist:6 model (the captured one) communicates with Col Tighe and lets him know that models 1 through 3 are bent on destroying them but models 4, 5 and 6 will protect them as much as they can but with them no longer having their resurrection ships, they are as vulnerable as the humans.  Col Tighe leaves BSG to command the 4 through 6 cylon ships against models 1 through 3. What do you think? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

Saiph · Apr 23, 2008

you know, I wouldn't consider that jumping the shark...it's not really extreme or silly enough.  Bad/sloppy/lazy writing, maybe.Now, jumping the shark requires something spectalar.  FOr instance a Grey's Anatomy episode where a woman taking herbal medicines blood turned toxic (okay...no big deal).  But anybody exposed to it, via airborne contact, quickly fell unconcious and dangerously ill...A walking neurotoxic gas source...from herbal medicines.  That's jumping the shark.Or flip on any soap opera.

<div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

lildreamer · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What do you think of this as a plot twist:6 model (the captured one) communicates with Col Tighe and lets him know that models 1 through 3 are bent on destroying them but models 4, 5 and 6 will protect them as much as they can but with them no longer having their resurrection ships, they are as vulnerable as the humans.  Col Tighe leaves BSG to command the 4 through 6 cylon ships against models 1 through 3. What do you think? Posted by bearack</DIV>plausible but not probable.... I think the next episode will see some more strife occur on BSG as the other 4 come to terms with their existence...another slow boat episode... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>plausible but not probable.... I think the next episode will see some more strife occur on BSG as the other 4 come to terms with their existence...another slow boat episode... Posted by lildreamer</DIV> I think loosing their resurrection ship will make them desperate as the humans for survival.  I just see an alliance being formed if not this episode, one very soon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

Saiph · Apr 23, 2008

That's a good point bearack.  I do wonder what the cylon models who just got ambushed are going to do.  We actually don't know if it was a clean ambush or if some escaped (most likely IMO from a storyline PoV).I'm waiting for the centurions to step in and declare martial law.Personally I wouldn't have had the centurions dumb because of an inhibiting chip.  I'd make them smart because of an extra chip.  Otherwise it makes me wonder why the centurions put up with being chipped in the first place.  "Yes sir, make me dumber sir!  Free will sucks sir!"  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> --------------------SaiphMOD@gmail.com -------------------"This is my Timey Wimey Detector. Goes "bing" when there's stuff. It also fries eggs at 30 paces, wether you want it to or not actually. I've learned to stay away from hens: It's not pretty when they blow" -- The Tenth Doctor, "Blink" </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I think loosing their resurrection ship will make them desperate as the humans for survival.  I just see an alliance being formed if not this episode, one very soon. Posted by bearack</DIV> That's my gut feel right now as well.  We'll see some Cylons siding with humans led by Baltar in a religious movement and an eventual truce btw these Cylons and the rest of BSG's humans.  Might take a few episodes to come to fruition. As for Starbuck and the search for Earth ... there's a lot unknown at this time.I still say BSG jumped the shark when Tigh (and the others to a lesser extent) is exposed as a skin job.  It's just so out there after all the history that he's ;a) a Cylon and b) one of the secret final 5.  As bearack mentioned above, that all the final 5 (or 4 to this point) manage to survive the massive killoff and then end up on the Galactica is so hokey as to be either bad writing or religious/metaphysical in nature.  Either is unappealing to me. Maybe if there had been 100 other models and 5 had managed to survive but the final, secret 5 .... aaargh. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

lildreamer · Apr 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>you know, I wouldn't consider that jumping the shark...it's not really extreme or silly enough.  Bad/sloppy/lazy writing, maybe.Now, jumping the shark requires something spectalar.  FOr instance a Grey's Anatomy episode where a woman taking herbal medicines blood turned toxic (okay...no big deal).  But anybody exposed to it, via airborne contact, quickly fell unconcious and dangerously ill...A walking neurotoxic gas source...from herbal medicines.  That's jumping the shark.Or flip on any soap opera.

Posted by Saiph</DIV> I fully agree - "jumping the shark" is a term I really detest because its over used. Like jammin or jamming in reference to spontaneous gathering to create music....my friends and I many moons ago said that phrase all the time to the point of ad nausea...Last season of BSG and they have an opportunity to go out with a fantastic bang....I hope they don't disappoint... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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