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bearack · Mar 26, 2008

Whelp, its back on 04-04-08 and hopefully, more than just one stinking episode.I am very disappointed with how SciFi did this series.  6 months of show spread out over three years.  By the time we see the final episode, we will have forgotten all the previous episodes. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

doublehelix · Mar 26, 2008

Is this BG's final season?I must admit that I've not been able to pay attention to this series like I would have liked to.  Not having cable kinda puts a dent in things like that, tho.  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" />I recently watched the "miniseries" and was really impressed.  I caught a few eps on a plane a couple of years ago, too.  4 hours in a row!  Nice.Are there any seasons that shine better than others?  Or is it all just awesome? -dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

bearack · Mar 26, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Is this BG's final season?I must admit that I've not been able to pay attention to this series like I would have liked to.  Not having cable kinda puts a dent in things like that, tho.  I recently watched the "miniseries" and was really impressed.  I caught a few eps on a plane a couple of years ago, too.  4 hours in a row!  Nice.Are there any seasons that shine better than others?  Or is it all just awesome? -dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> One of the best remakes I have ever seen.  They kept to the story line quite well, but made some serious character changes that worked out better than I first imagined.  Starbuck as a drunk, horny chick, un-heard of. But now, she's one of the best characters in the series.....and Boomer, used to be a black guy in the original is now a hot asian cyclon chick, Grrrrrr!This is suppose to be the last series for BSG where they finally find Earth.  The show has been a huge success, other than their span between series. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Mar 26, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Is this BG's final season?I must admit that I've not been able to pay attention to this series like I would have liked to.  Not having cable kinda puts a dent in things like that, tho.  I recently watched the "miniseries" and was really impressed.  I caught a few eps on a plane a couple of years ago, too.  4 hours in a row!  Nice.Are there any seasons that shine better than others?  Or is it all just awesome? -dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> They were all pretty good except for the last season.  Since you haven't seen the show I won't give it away but the last season did some circles around the shark tank and finally jumped it (IMO) in the last episode.  The BSG thread in the old Forum had lots of info but lots of spoilers as well.  All in all I can highly recommend BSG.  It's far, far, far above the usual SciFi channel fare. ps - Yes, this is the last season. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

doublehelix · Mar 26, 2008

This show and the YES network are why I want cable. Oh, and all those reruns of Buffy, Angel, and Charmed.<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

bearack · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>This show and the YES network are why I want cable. Oh, and all those reruns of Buffy, Angel, and Charmed. Posted by doublehelix</DIV> Angel was one of my favorites and wished it would have survived a few more season.  Thoese lips, grrrrrrrr. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

doublehelix · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Angel was one of my favorites and wished it would have survived a few more season.  Thoese lips, grrrrrrrr. Posted by bearack</DIV>I hear ya.  And am I the only one that thought the way they ended the series was kinda lame?  I'm not talking Illyria (though I wasn't fond of that character), but the last scene of the last episode.-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

yevaud · Mar 28, 2008

I've already read at least one (possible) spoiler for the final season of BSG, and all I'll say is it's bleak. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Whelp, its back on 04-04-08 and hopefully, more than just one stinking episode.I am very disappointed with how SciFi did this series.  6 months of show spread out over three years.  By the time we see the final episode, we will have forgotten all the previous episodes. Posted by bearack</DIV>I've always enjoyed the main plotline behind BSG.  The old and new series.  But, I'm getting a little troubled over some of the existential BS going on. I hope that if/when they do find "Earth" it isn't a present day Earth.  I'd much rather see any.. ANY alternative to BSG 1980..  That idea just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. "Look! It's Ponch and Jon from outer space!" <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I hear ya.  And am I the only one that thought the way they ended the series was kinda lame?  I'm not talking Illyria (though I wasn't fond of that character), but the last scene of the last episode.-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV>I never really watched the show.  However, there was a time when it was airing at something like 5am or so and I happened to catch a few episodes.  It wasn't bad but it wasn't fantastic.  But, it was better than watching infomercials.

Was the last scene of the last episode the one where they all jumped out in an alley and were facing down a horder of demon-nasties or some such?  If so, then I agree that was a sort of lame ending.  It didn't make a whole lot of sense.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

doublehelix · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But, I'm getting a little troubled over some of the existential BS going on. Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV>LOL about the Ponch and Jon reference.<img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />Can you elaborate on the "existential BS" on the show?-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

doublehelix · Mar 28, 2008

I'm going to make a new thread regarding the Joss Whedon vamp shows.-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

yevaud · Mar 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I've always enjoyed the main plotline behind BSG.  The old and new series.  But, I'm getting a little troubled over some of the existential BS going on. I hope that if/when they do find "Earth" it isn't a present day Earth.  I'd much rather see any.. ANY alternative to BSG 1980..  That idea just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. "Look! It's Ponch and Jon from outer space!" Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV>***Spoiler Alert***Scroll down for Spoiler.       One possible spoiler says that when they do find Earth, it's the late 22nd Century, and Earth is a complete wreck, devastated.  No word on whether we did it to ourselves or not...  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Mar 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>LOL about the Ponch and Jon reference.Can you elaborate on the "existential BS" on the show?-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> I can't speak for a_l_p_ but for me there were a few too many times where it seemed that some divine intervention happened to save the day for the BSG folk.  While the religious myticism had a role in the original series and also in the new BSG, it's, at times, a bit more front and forward for science fiction series than I'd like.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

bearack · Mar 31, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>***Spoiler Alert***Scroll down for Spoiler.  </DIV> Didn't quote the spoiler, just in case.  and will post my post further down so if anyone doesn't want to see my spoiler.         HIGHLIGHT HERE TO READ SPOILER!I agree that I have heard that they find Earth in the 22mc cent in total devistation, but the rumor I heard was that it was destroyed by Cyclons. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

yevaud · Mar 31, 2008

Cool.  I didn't read that one.They screwed up, IMO.  Here's how I would have written the ending:All through the series, we keep hearing about how the Colonies were from Kobol.  We also kept hearing Cylons repeating, "this has happened before...it will happen again."My idea is that when the Galactica reaches Earth, they find out that their history was exactly backwards.  Kobol - and hence the 12 Colonies - were descended from Earth first; Earth was not the 13th Colony, it was the Mother World.  When they arrive, it's around the 35th Century.  Earth is abandoned, and only just recovering from devastation.  Which was caused by the very first Human/Cylon war, and of which was the proximal cause for Humans to flee to Kobol in the first place.It all fits.  It also explains everything about how they have many familiar Human names, human trappings, aspects of Human cultures, etc. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

vidargander · Apr 1, 2008

That ‘Looking for Earth’ -quest seems very familiar to Asimov’s Foundation. I think Asimov too made earth a future myth of long a lost civilisation. BG seems to be like a mix of several grand SciFi sagas. The writers probably want to be true to them. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 1, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>That ‘Looking for Earth’ -quest seems very familiar to Asimov’s Foundation. I think Asimov too made earth a future myth of long a lost civilisation. BG seems to be like a mix of several grand SciFi sagas. The writers probably want to be true to them. Posted by vidargander</DIV> BSG was around well before SciFi was ever thought of and the writers had to be true to the story line, for the most part.  The tweaks they did do to the story line actually worked very well.  I also really appreciate their character selection. Having Edward Olmos casted as Bill Adama is nearly a perfect fit (IMPO).  Also, James Callis doe's a stellar job as Baltar. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

doublehelix · Apr 1, 2008

Battlestar Galacticsimpsons <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

vidargander · Apr 2, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>BSG was around well before SciFi was ever thought of and the writers had to be true to the story line, for the most part.  Posted by bearack</DIV>I think most great SciFi series are influenced by each other. I can’t see how they cannot be.  As mentioned, one influence in the BSG seems to be Asimov’s quest to find a long lost Earth. Asimov himself can be influenced by quests for finding Eden, just to realise that its long gone.It also seems to me that the new generation of Cylons in BSG are like a merge of the InVitros and the Silicates from the SciFi series "Space:_Above_and_Beyond". <a target="_blank"></a>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyondhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space:_Above_and_Beyond I would like to know more about the definition of SciFi. To me it doesn’t seem to be that solid to say that a story-line can be older than SciFi. SciFi isn’t a single definable word, - SciFi the merge of two words, and has its own properties, - not yet defined. I don’t even think that SciFi is bound to time, and definitely not to the future. Surely there are religious influences to several great SciFi series¨.See: “Religious and mythological references in Battlestar Galactica”  <a target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_mythological_references_in_Battlestar_Galactica</a>Ancient priests must have been some kind of SciFi enthusiasts.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Apr 2, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>LOL about the Ponch and Jon reference.Can you elaborate on the "existential BS" on the show?-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV>Well, there is the whole "destiny" thing.  There's a cycle that has been referred to by the Cylons that humans and cylons have fought, will fight and will always fight, over and over as if they are caught in an inescapable loop of destiny that only the cylons are privy to. There's the desire of the cylons to merge with the humans, creating a cylon/human hybrid which somehow holds the mystical key to all of this.There's the religious aspect of the cycle the cylons keep bringing up, that it is somehow the will of God and God's love for all is repeatedly tied up in this somehow. (An interesting adaption of some of Asimov's plotlines, btw. IMO)There's Baltar's madness, (Or, is it truly reality?) that constantly comes up and his companion/imaginary friend the #6 model.  (A dynamic I've grown to enjoy, btw.)  It seems to serve as some sort of conduit to "final truth" for the creators and is used extensively to give hints, here and there, about the true connection between cylons and humans.There's Starbuck's disappearance/death to deal with as well.  She "got blow'd up" and now she's back?  Hey, they already redid the famous "Starbuck gets marooned on a planet" episode from the first series which mimicked the same hook.  What's the rub on this one? I said it worried me, somewhat, but it doesn't really detract from the appeal of the series for me.. yet.  I can only hope that the final scene in the series isn't one of the main characters waking up from a dream as the Cylons begin their first-strike...   Although, that may not be a bad ending after all.You know, after really thinking through it, I suppose that some of the appeal of the show actually has to do with some of these mystical/existential plotlines.  It isn't just about spaceships blowing each other up and "Fort Apache" having a stardrive and cavalry in the form of Vipers... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

vidargander · Apr 3, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> It seems to serve as some sort of conduit to "final truth" for the creators and is used extensively to give hints, here and there, about the true connection between cylons and humans. There's Starbuck's disappearance/death to deal with as well.  She "got blow'd up" and now she's back?  Hey, they already redid the famous "Starbuck gets marooned on a planet" episode from the first series which mimicked the same hook.  What's the rub on this one? I said it worried me, somewhat, but it doesn't really detract from the appeal of the series for me.. yet. </DIV>Thanks for the spoiler – I think. Unfortunately, - regional TV isn’t that up-to-date. I’ve just seen the blast of Jupiter’s eye, and that cute cylon’s fatal discovery of the candid 5. However, I think Starbuck’s fate has been written long before what you recently have seen. Her egg-cells were stolen at the farm at Caprica and there are made clones of her. Dying is no problem for them neo-cyclons because of their ability to be reborn. I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows out to be one of the 5 unknown neo-cyclons. It wouldn’t even surprise me if she is related to the original Starbuck. I call the clones neo-cylons, but can’t really accept that their related to those machines at all. Religious machines? Unbelievable.The whole man vs neo-cylon conflict reminds me rather of the ancient man vs angel conflict. That angels’ love-hate relation to humans ended with a genocide of the nephilins, - which bring me to the fundamental sense of the BSG story-line.Those neo-cylons are not machines at all, but human clones manifested by angels.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Apr 3, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows out to be one of the 5 unknown neo-cyclons. It wouldn’t even surprise me if she is related to the original Starbuck. Posted by vidargander</DIV> I think you nailed it <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

bdewoody · Apr 4, 2008

This has been puzzelling me about Baltar.  Why didn't he die in the initial nuclear blast?  I've been watching the replay of the entire series this week and discovered that 6 died in the blast.  Now I originally thought that somehow she protected Baltar but if that isn't so then he must be a Cylon too. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Bob DeWoody </div>

lildreamer · Apr 4, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>This has been puzzelling me about Baltar.  Why didn't he die in the initial nuclear blast?  I've been watching the replay of the entire series this week and discovered that 6 died in the blast.  Now I originally thought that somehow she protected Baltar but if that isn't so then he must be a Cylon too. Posted by bdewoody</DIV>good observation - about Baltar surviving the blast.  But the cylons seem to have a great indifference to whether he lives or dies...as for the 6 unit that "saved" his life she too, has a Baltar alter ego running through her head which seems to reflect the same calm demur that the 6 has running through Baltar's head.  Note neither alter ego's seem to be in contact with their original progenitorsAs for the 5th cylon my money is on the President.  She acted weird just before the ship went into shut down mode, same time as the other 4 came on line so to speak....Now could that be she has the hybrid child dna in her making her a hybrid cylon plausible. Star buck as a cylon plausible...but once again my money on the President.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

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