Battle Star Gallatica

bearack · Apr 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>This new Iblis seems to be a combined mythological Trixter/Jinn/Satan.It has been in the saga all the way, changing appearance, possessing humans, and manipulating them towards his own goal, - being some kind of anti-Christ. </DIV> That's actually a great assessment.  Since Baltar has seen more than head six, but also a projection of himself, this might explain things a little.....I think.....maybe.....possibly??? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · May 3, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> That's actually a great assessment.  Since Baltar has seen more than head six, but also a projection of himself, this might explain things a little.....I think.....maybe.....possibly??? Posted by bearack</DIV> Ok after tonight and next episode slotted - I predict that Star Buck is the 5 cylon model.....It makes sense since the writers of this soap opera saga - because that's how its starting to feel like - have thrown more twists and turns than the multi intestinal track of a Vogon <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vidargander · May 9, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Ok after tonight and next episode slotted - I predict that Star Buck is the 5 cylon model.....It makes sense since the writers of this soap opera saga - because that's how its starting to feel like - have thrown more twists and turns than the multi intestinal track of a Vogon  Posted by lildreamer</DIV> I just saw that "blasting Star Buck" -episode in the 3rd season. To me there is no doubt that there's a paralellell to the classic BSG. SB is not a cylon or a 'being-of-light', but has a destiny set by those enlightened beings. Just before SB was taken away, she had to be forgiven by her mother in the past, so she was relieved from her anger. Who is Starbuck's father anyway? That's an unsetteled question from the classic BSG too.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · May 9, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I just saw that "blasting Star Buck" -episode in the 3rd season. To me there is no doubt that there's a paralellell to the classic BSG. SB is not a cylon or a 'being-of-light', but has a destiny set by those enlightened beings. Just before SB was taken away, she had to be forgiven by her mother in the past, so she was relieved from her anger. Who is Starbuck's father anyway? That's an unsetteled question from the classic BSG too.  Posted by vidargander</DIV> A thought has crossed my mind that Tigh is her father, which would make her a hybrid.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · May 9, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I just saw that "blasting Star Buck" -episode in the 3rd season. To me there is no doubt that there's a paralellell to the classic BSG. SB is not a cylon or a 'being-of-light', but has a destiny set by those enlightened beings. Just before SB was taken away, she had to be forgiven by her mother in the past, so she was relieved from her anger. Who is Starbuck's father anyway? That's an unsetteled question from the classic BSG too.  Posted by vidargander</DIV> in classic it was a character protrayed by Fred Astaire - on the colonial gambling ship...running away from some nomads...in this version - ya making Tigh the father would be a classic..... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vidargander · May 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>in classic it was a character protrayed by Fred Astaire - on the colonial gambling ship...running away from some nomads...in this version - ya making Tigh the father would be a classic..... Posted by lildreamer</DIV>New Starbuck’s father was a pianist. I can’t find any character with that skill in the BSG series.However, some of the actors have the skills: Gaius Baltar: “He (James_Callis) plays the guitar and piano to performance level” http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/James_Callis Tom Zarek: “Richard Hatch was studying classical piano at the age of eight.” http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Hatch The original Starbuck himself: “Benedict was an excellent high school athlete and aspiring musician, who learned to play trombone, piano and guitar.” http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Dirk_Benedict    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · May 10, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I just saw that "blasting Star Buck" -episode in the 3rd season. To me there is no doubt that there's a paralellell to the classic BSG. SB is not a cylon or a 'being-of-light', but has a destiny set by those enlightened beings. Just before SB was taken away, she had to be forgiven by her mother in the past, so she was relieved from her anger. Who is Starbuck's father anyway? That's an unsetteled question from the classic BSG too.  Posted by vidargander</DIV> yeah, except for the skinny among the SF Bloggers is, SB is not a Cylon. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

vidargander · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>yeah, except for the skinny among the SF Bloggers is, SB is not a Cylon. Posted by yevaud</DIV>Neither Gaius Baltar, Tom Zarek nor the original Starbuck are cylons. (ref. prev. posting)  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

enigma10 · May 12, 2008

The old series, and tried hard to get into this new series, but became completely turned off it by all the repetative drama you can find in every other series on tv right now, in one form or another. I kept waiting for the magic hour glass and corny elevator music to come on while watching this new BSG. At this point in the series, i just want the tortured comercials that litter my channel to end. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "An organism at war with itself is a doomed organism." - Carl Sagan </div>

vidargander · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> That's actually a great assessment.  Since Baltar has seen more than head six, but also a projection of himself, this might explain things a little.....I think.....maybe.....possibly??? Posted by bearack</DIV> I just saw the episode ‘The Son Also Rises’ where Romo Lampkin is introduced like some kind of ‘devil’s advocate’.Edward James Olmos (William Adama) has said about the episode: "… this is a beautiful script. Why'd you (frack) it up with a (fracking) cat for?"I think the cat is the main character in the episode because I think it’s the reincarnation of Romo’s wife. She saves his life and manipulates him to steal the opponents’ personal belongings. She is still in control of Romo and wants control of Baltar's opponents too. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

lildreamer · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I just saw the episode ‘The Son Also Rises’ where Romo Lampkin is introduced like some kind of ‘devil’s advocate’.Edward James Olmos (William Adama) has said about the episode: "… this is a beautiful script. Why'd you (frack) it up with a (fracking) cat for?"I think the cat is the main character in the episode because I think it’s the reincarnation of Romo’s wife. She saves his life and manipulates him to steal the opponents’ personal belongings. She is still in control of Romo and wants control of Baltar's opponents too. Posted by vidargander</DIV> i belive there is merit in that Bearack has found the foundation behind the new BSG universe - that they are using the Norse Mythology to drive this new story...What if Star Buck is a hybrid playing the role of a Valkyrie"<a name="The Valkyries"></a>The Valkyries, were warrior maidens who attended Odin, ruler of the gods. The Valkyries rode through the air in brilliant armor, directed battles, distributed death lots among the warriors, and conducted the souls of slain heroes to Valhalla, the great hall of Odin. Their leader was Brunhild. Freya or Freyja, goddess of love, fertility, and beauty, sometimes identified as the goddess of battle and death. Her father was Njord, a fertility god. Blond, blue-eyed, and beautiful, Freya traveled on a golden-bristled boar or in a chariot drawn by cats. ...." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>i belive there is merit in that Bearack has found the foundation behind the new BSG universe - that they are using the Norse Mythology to drive this new story...What if Star Buck is a hybrid playing the role of a Valkyrie"The Valkyries, were warrior maidens who attended Odin, ruler of the gods. The Valkyries rode through the air in brilliant armor, directed battles, distributed death lots among the warriors, and conducted the souls of slain heroes to Valhalla, the great hall of Odin. Their leader was Brunhild. Freya or Freyja, goddess of love, fertility, and beauty, sometimes identified as the goddess of battle and death. Her father was Njord, a fertility god. Blond, blue-eyed, and beautiful, Freya traveled on a golden-bristled boar or in a chariot drawn by cats. ...." Posted by lildreamer</DIV> SPOILER for people not update to date with the episode, so please don't read my responce if you don't want information on last weeks episode.   Which makes absolute sense with the last episode, "Faith".  Starbuck is now clearly the harbinger of death now and the FF cylons now have a home, Earth.  It makes sense now to why they worship Grecian gods but follow Norris mythology.  This also strengthens my theory of Tigh being as one in the same of Odin.Next weeks episode should be pretty frakkin interesting when a basestar pops up next to the fleet.  Wonder how Adama will handle this?  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>SPOILER for people not update to date with the episode, so please don't read my responce if you don't want information on last weeks episode.   Which makes absolute sense with the last episode, "Faith".  Starbuck is now clearly the harbinger of death now and the FF cylons now have a home, Earth.  It makes sense now to why they worship Grecian gods but follow Norris mythology.  This also strengthens my theory of Tigh being as one in the same of Odin.Next weeks episode should be pretty frakkin interesting when a basestar pops up next to the fleet.  Wonder how Adama will handle this?  Posted by bearack</DIV> What I find interesting is that they went from a pure sci-fi environment to a quasi meta physical environment...all high tech AI's now to this metaphysical realm where the living are seeing the dead....its becoming to be a soap with me in regards to the president frack just nuke her and get it over with... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>What I find interesting is that they went from a pure sci-fi environment to a quasi meta physical environment...all high tech AI's now to this metaphysical realm where the living are seeing the dead....its becoming to be a soap with me in regards to the president frack just nuke her and get it over with... Posted by lildreamer</DIV> I actually love how they entwined the drama with sci-fi to present a morality to the story line.  I suspect the soap opra appeal will lesson as we get a little more story line.  I know for a fact, that around episode 10 we will be back to non-stop action with the civil war among cylons and humans escalating.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

vidargander · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>SPOILER for people not update to date with the episode, so please don't read my responce if you don't want information on last weeks episode.   Which makes absolute sense with the last episode, "Faith".  Starbuck is now clearly the harbinger of death now and the FF cylons now have a home, Earth.  It makes sense now to why they worship Grecian gods but follow Norris mythology.  This also strengthens my theory of Tigh being as one in the same of Odin.Next weeks episode should be pretty frakkin interesting when a basestar pops up next to the fleet.  Wonder how Adama will handle this?  Posted by bearack</DIV> The original BSG is founded on Egyptian mythology. Cats were important creatures for the ancient Egyptians as well as for hexes. I think Romo Lampkin’s cat is rather related to Egyptians than to the Norse.(By the way; the Norse relation is mentioned as early as in a posting of 4/9/2008) <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · May 12, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The original BSG is founded on Egyptian mythology. Cats were important creatures for the ancient Egyptians as well as for hexes. I think Romo Lampkin’s cat is rather related to Egyptians than to the Norse.(By the way; the Norse relation is mentioned as early as in a posting of 4/9/2008) Posted by vidargander</DIV> Aye, I was the initial person who proposed the correlation.  I think the new BSG writers took on the Norris and Grecian mythology because how more diverse the story lines were versus Egyptian, but that is merely speculation.   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · May 18, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Aye, I was the initial person who proposed the correlation.  I think the new BSG writers took on the Norris and Grecian mythology because how more diverse the story lines were versus Egyptian, but that is merely speculation.   Posted by bearack</DIV> Saw the last episode - and the preview, up and coming in two weeks. Show on Space is taking a two week pause. Any ways it promises to be a big "eye" opener.  You know watching the episode last night, its nice to see that the president and Baltar are switching roles. Baltar is accepting the mantle of being a true leader - where the President is just wallowing in her own mortality...(please oh please just frack her, she's becoming to be the epitome of beating a dead horse).  Seeing the six's getting popped one after the other makes you wonder what's the significance behind that.  The Opera house what is up with that - some sort of spiritual community hall?  And the little hybrid boy she is growing quick - she seems to know what she's all about though, ie pictures of ,6,6,6...anybody else ??? having a Jerry Seinfeld moment....and what's up with that,..need to go get a coffee.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · May 18, 2008

All very interesting, I thought.  Though the Six being killed by Sharon Agethon surprised me.  Will she ressurect elsewhere?  Possibly even on a Baseship held by the other side of the Civil War?  And what's up with Baltar appearing in the Opera House vision anyways?  And is he the final Cylon model, since he appeared in it?  Or not?  After all, he's been preaching the Cylon vision of Monotheism.All quite intriguing. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

bearack · May 20, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>All very interesting, I thought.  Though the Six being killed by Sharon Agethon surprised me.  Will she ressurect elsewhere?  Possibly even on a Baseship held by the other side of the Civil War?  And what's up with Baltar appearing in the Opera House vision anyways?  And is he the final Cylon model, since he appeared in it?  Or not?  After all, he's been preaching the Cylon vision of Monotheism.All quite intriguing. Posted by yevaud</DIV> No, their resurrection ship is no where near enough for any of the rebels to ressurect.  Once dead, they're dead....But.....we really don't know if Natallie is dead or not. It puts a plot twist since Nat was reconsidering taking Colonial hostages while the others wanted to, to ensure safety.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

lildreamer · May 20, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No, their resurrection ship is no where near enough for any of the rebels to ressurect.  Once dead, they're dead....But.....we really don't know if Natallie is dead or not. It puts a plot twist since Nat was reconsidering taking Colonial hostages while the others wanted to, to ensure safety.  Posted by bearack</DIV> here's a taste of whats coming up....http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=253068I can't wait ..... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · May 20, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>No, their resurrection ship is no where near enough for any of the rebels to ressurect. Posted by bearack</DIV>Assuming they were telling the truth, of course.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

Mee_n_Mac · May 20, 2008

The one thing that seems constant is that the Hybrid Cylons know the future and speak the truth. So if you can make sense from their ramblings, you can figure out what will unfold.  I present a transcript from the SciFi BSG forum of the latest ramblings ... {my comments in red}Hybrid: All these things it wants and many more, not because it wishes harm, but because it likes violent vibrations to change constantly. {I don't know how to interpret this but apparently the Universe is somewhat perverse <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> }Then shall the maidens rejoice at the dance. {I don't know how to interpret this but I think it significant}Structural integrity of node 7 restored. Repressurizing. {technobabble}The children of the one reborn shall find their own country. {Baltar and group have a place in whatever new world is found}Intruders swarmed like flame, like the whirlwind. {This and the following portend a battle btw the Fleet (now inside the basestar and thus invaders) and the ...}Hopes soaring to slaughter all their best against our hulls. {... bad (Cavil etal) Cyclons. }Kara Thrace: I'm here, you wanted me here, so.....Hybrid: Replace internal (?) control accumulators 4 through 19. They'll start going ripe on us pretty soon. Compartmentalize integrity conflicts with the obligation to provide access.{technobabble}FTL sync fault uncorrected.{technobabble}No ceremonies are necessary.{not sure about this one}*** scene break ***Hybrid: Then shall the maidens rejoice at the dance.{mentioned again hence it's significant IMO}Sructural integrity of node 7 restored. Repressurizing.{technobabble}The children of the one reborn shall find their own country. {again Baltar finds a "home"}End of line. Reset.{technobabble}Track mode monitor malfunction traced. Recharge compressors. Increase the output to 50%.{technobabble}~ All these things are happening and more - assume the relaxation length of photons - not because it wishes... ~{babble}Hybrid: Transverse contact is inevitable, leading to information bleed. FTL sync fault stands uncorrected. {technobabble} No ceremonies are necessary.{???}Kara Thrace: I don't understand...{me too}Hybrid: Centrifical force reacts to the rotating frame of reference.{technobabble} The obstinate toy soldier becomes pliant.{reference to Tigh but to what end ?} The city devours the land...the people devour the city...{got me}Leoben: You can't hurry her, you have to absord her words. Allow them to caress your associative mind. Don't expect the fate of two great races to be delivered easily.Hybrid: Assume relaxation length of photons in the sample atmosphere is constant.{technobabble} Intruders swarmed like flame, like the whirlwind. Hopes soaring to slaughter all their best against our hulls.{2'nd mention}*** scene break ***Hybrid: All these things it wants and many more, not because it wishes harm, but because it likes violent vibrations to change constantly.{2'nd mention, ????}Then shall the maidens rejoice at the dance.{again}Sharon: Ok, we're rigged and ready. It's time to pull her offline and get out of here before we miss the rendezvous.Hybrid: Reset.{technobabble}Sharon: Any luck Captain?Hybrid: Track mode monitor malfunction traced.{technobabble}Kara: Not a frakkin' thing.Hybrid: But you are a spark of God's fire.{Kara is important} Core update complete.{technobabble}Kara: Frak it! Unplug the **** thing, let's get the frak out of here... (The Six gives the Eight the nod to disconnect the Hybrid.)Hybrid: Threat detection matrix enabled. Dendritic response bypassed. The recieved dose is altered by the delayed gamma burst. Going active. Execute. {technobabble} The children of the one reborn shall find their own country.{again} End of line.{technobabble}(The Hybrid screams in a somewhat androgenous monotone as the Eight grabs the cable. A nearby Centurian shoots the Eight before she can break the cable, even though the Six told it to stop. Everyone in the room shoots the Centurian. The Hybrid is still screaming, the Eight's blood runs into the Hybrid's goo bath.)Kara to the Hybrid: What do you want from me? Please, I need you. (The Hybrid stops screaming and touches Kara's face.)Hybrid: Thus will it come to pass. The dying leader will know the truth of the opera house.{reference to Ms President's vision which has something to do with unifying Cylons and Humans IMO} The missing three will give you the five, who have come from the home of the thirteenth.{Interpreted as cylon #3 knows the Final Five but then the FF are agents not of the skin job Cylons but some other Cylons ?? from long ago Earth ???} You are the harbinger of death Kara Thrace.{Bad news for Cavil etal} You will lead them all to their end.{Kara finds Earth and brings Fleet and "good" Cylons there.} End of line.{technobabble}(Sharon walks over and picks up the cable. The Hybrid gasps as Sharon disconnects her.)I think eventully Earth is found and it's empty, devoid of life but ready to move into. It will be populated by both Humans and Cylons, who can interbreed to form a new race. Where the 13'th tribe disappeared to is left for another series. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

doublehelix · May 29, 2008

*raises hand*I finally got cable!  I'm excited.-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

Mee_n_Mac · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>*raises hand*I finally got cable!  I'm excited.-dh  Posted by doublehelix</DIV> So do they carry the SciFi channel and, even better, are they offering the shows on demand after they air ?  One thing I have to give to Comcast is that they have the most recent episode available on demand the next day after it aired. I don't have to fuss with the DVR to catch the show. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

doublehelix · May 30, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>So do they carry the SciFi channel and, even better, are they offering the shows on demand after they air ?  One thing I have to give to Comcast is that they have the most recent episode available on demand the next day after it aired. I don't have to fuss with the DVR to catch the show. Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV>Huh, this on-demand element sounds good.  I don't know if my cable provider has that for SciFi programs (I do have SciFi as a channel).  Will check it out.  Thanks, Mee_n_Mac!-dh  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> doublehelix, Community Manager Imaginova </div>

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