Deep Impact Hoax - 2

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

"Taking your logic into consideration, this crater is nothing more than a theory. http://www.barringercrater.com/ Have you forgotten what you had said?" It seems to me a tomfoolery like those of Nasa buffoons.

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

It seems to me a tomfoolery like those of Nasa buffoons. So that crater is "tomfoolery" by NASA? Very strange. I've been there a number of times...looked real enough to me. And BTW, how can BB get away with calling NASA "buffoons" when ES was asked to stop his name calling? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

najab · Jul 10, 2005

I'm tempted to let "buffoon" live because it's not quite as derogatory as ES's favorite term.

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

...it's not quite as derogatory... Not quite, but close... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

"So that crater is "tomfoolery" by NASA? Very strange. I've been there a number of times...looked real enough to me". Buffoons are not only at Nasa. There are many buffoons on this our little planet. Do yuo remember those fields of wheat with some circles of cut wheat? UFO? No, only buffoons.

yevaud · Jul 10, 2005

Do yuo remember those fields of wheat with some circles of cut wheat? UFO? No, only buffoons. Son of a gun...we actually agree on something. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

Buffoons are not only at Nasa. So I'm a "buffoon" because I've actually visited the site and investigated the crater? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

rhodan · Jul 10, 2005

A rare moment of clarity...

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

"So I'm a "buffoon" because I've actually visited the site and investigated the crater?" Has been that crater created by a copper cube of 3.5 dm (13.8 inches) of lenght like the impactor?

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

Answer the question. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

"Answer the question". Before answer my questions.

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

Answer the question. You insinuated I was a buffoon. Explain your reasoning. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

The best of Nasa buffoons: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepimpact/main/index.html Click on "Comets a Smash at JPL" above on the right. Ah, ah, ah.

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

My dear fans, go here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/deepimpact/multimedia/0701-ge.html Right click on "View related animation" Left click on "Save object by name" and you will be able to see another cartoon. Nasa buffoons have done these enormously complicated manoeuvers without seeing their probe, their impactor and the comet. How have they been able to steer a probe and another smaller one against a comet at 133 million kilometers of distance? Are they wizards? No, only swindlers and buffoons.

yevaud · Jul 10, 2005

How have they been able to steer a probe and another smaller one against a comet at 133 million kilometers of distance? I see. Of course, by the same logic, it is not possible for you to utilize electricity, as you aren't actually right at the generation facility, or that this discussion can't possibly be taking place, as it covers many thousands (or more) Kilometers of wire, cable, and fiber optics - and you aren't there, supervising each and every electron. *sheesh* <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

bigbrain · Jul 10, 2005

"Of course, by the same logic, it is not possible for you to utilize electricity, as you aren't actually right at the generation facility, or that this discussion can't possibly be taking place, as it covers many thousands (or more) Kilometers of wire, cable, and fiber optics - and you aren't there, supervising each and every electron". You can place thousands (or more) Kilometers of wire, cable, and fiber optics because you see them. But you can not steer two smallest probes to a target 133 million kilometers distant because you have not technology to see them, to locate them in the 3D space, in the darkness of universe (I am a poet too).

yevaud · Jul 10, 2005

Equivalence: a signal travelling down a wire, and a signal travelling through space. Only the medium and the distance are changed. And that's not quite what you said. You stated (broadly) that no communications were possible with any probe, as you couldn't see it. Well, once those wires are placed, can you "see" the electrons travelling down the wire? Uhhhhh, no, you can't. Can you "see" a radio-wave propogating through space? Uhhhhh, no you can't. But I bet if you turn on your tv, that invisible electron flow will power the tv, which will pick up those invisible radio-waves just fine. Sorry, Buddy. Bad Argument. DoublePlus Ungood. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

votefornimitz · Jul 10, 2005

Their excuse for being able to steer it, Using stars, but how can it use stars when it can't even se them... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves... </div>

odysseus145 · Jul 10, 2005

Who said it couldn't? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

votefornimitz · Jul 10, 2005

Take a look at the photos. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> In the event of a full scale nuclear war or NEO impact event, there are two categories of underground shelters available to the public, distinguished by depth underground: bunkers and graves... </div>

ehrichweiss · Jul 10, 2005

Nasa buffoons have done these enormously complicated manoeuvers without seeing their probe, their impactor and the comet. Besides the fact that they've had countless years experience maneuvering satellites around our tiny planet? I mean my satellite television surely ain't coming from my local area. This thing called "radio control" is an amazing thing...I can perform complex handlings of my r/c airplane and I can't see it when I send it behind hills, etc. here; I, like the NASA engineers, do have visual feedback though from onboard cameras. No biggie. So you don't like their "cartoons"..the thing that allows you to visualize what they are doing.... so what do you want? a special probe to follow and videotape the probe they are sending to do the actual work? To prove THAT probe exists maybe we need to launch a probe that can watch the probe that's watching the probe that's doing the work. But then to prove THAT probe exists we'd need a probe to watch the probe that's watching the probe that's watching the probe that's doing the work. Then to prove THAT probe is real we need a probe that can watch that probe.......ad infinitum until eventually they have a probe that can take video of both the probe it's watching and BB's current habits...which will be hard to see from space considering he seems to live under a bridge........

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 10, 2005

I think we need to make sure bigbrain is convinced that we can actually launch probes into space and control them with a great deal of accuracy. So, I propose we all chip in and buy a few rolls of duct-tape and advise the next launch mission that they're going to have a few pounds extra weight to counterbalance. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

ehrichweiss · Jul 10, 2005

yeah, I agree. I'm guessing that he thinks there are tiny gnomes inside the computers sending all these 1's and 0's and making the computer screen really pretty on his Compy 386(Strongbad fans unite!..lol)

arit · Jul 10, 2005

ALP, Hi, I read your EE link . I was familiar with the photo-electric effect before, but thanks anyways. Einstein got his Nobel for it, by the way... I actually don't see how the photo electric effect is created here. Assuming the light that we see is indeed photons emitted by a drop of electron levels, I haven't seen anywhere that the original excitation is a result of kinetic energy. It requires an incoming photon of a specific energy (frequency). I also don't know which material is emmitting light: The copper? The water? Regards, arit <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> "We will either find a way, or make one!" - Hannibal </div>

telfrow · Jul 10, 2005

ALP: So, I propose we all chip in and buy a few rolls of duct-tape and advise the next launch mission that they're going to have a few pounds extra weight to counterbalance. I've got a few extra dollars I'd be happy to contribute to the cause...as long as it's a deep space probe. <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will to strive, to seek, to find and not to yeild. - Tennyson </div>

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