Moon Landings Faked? (and all other space mission fakery)

[Yuri_Armstrong]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Or will handwaving and making silly statments all I'll be able to expect from you?

Pot... Kettle... Black

You posted some photos of what the sun should look like from space. That truly demonstrated your level of ignorance. The big bright 'spotlights', as you call them, are a function of overexposure. The starburst effect is a function of a stopped down lens. That's all. Nothing more. Not proof of anything but a delusional mind.

But, do you know what's saddest? These aren't even your own delusions - you're just rehashing someone else's nonsense.

Why not go find a more sympathetic forum, where you can cuddle up to other paranoid people and convince yourselves that the conspiracy is real, and nearly all 7 billion of the rest of us are in on it...

Exactly. I guess he thinks that anything slightly out of the ordinary can be counted as evidence against the moon landings. Fact of the matter is, that when you're on the moon, things are going to look pretty different than from Earth or LEO.

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Meh, as long as you continue to belittle the efforts of those that allowed humankind to land on the moon you really think you deserve any other kind of treatment? Handwaving is all the hoaxers are good at so you should at least be familiar with it when you see it. But please, continue trying to ride your 15 minutes of fame.

So, yes, you are going to continue trolling, with nothing to add directly to the evidence that Apollo was a fraud/real.

Because you see, if the hoax proponents are right, the people who perpetuated the fraud, are not wonderful human bengs who landed men on the moon. They are horrendous criminals long-overdue for prosecution, and public humiliation. Deceiving humanity and robbing taxpayers for bogus space missions should have brought down NASA and it's criminals years and years ago. But nothing happens because people like you refuse to shed your pride long enough to examine all the facts in earnest. Instead you resort to your current tactic of adding nothing to the debate, but useless comments.

If I wanted fame, I wouldn't be using anonymous nics. I would be on Letterman, radio, tv, with my real name.

I don't want fame there brother. I want truth. And you should too. And since you don't want to do the necessary research, and learning requried to understand the topic being discussed, it's obvious the truth isn't something you have much concern over...

That's too bad!

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Or will handwaving and making silly statments all I'll be able to expect from you?

Pot... Kettle... Black

You posted some photos of what the sun should look like from space. That truly demonstrated your level of ignorance. The big bright 'spotlights', as you call them, are a function of overexposure. The starburst effect is a function of a stopped down lens. That's all. Nothing more. Not proof of anything but a delusional mind.

But, do you know what's saddest? These aren't even your own delusions - you're just rehashing someone else's nonsense.

Why not go find a more sympathetic forum, where you can cuddle up to other paranoid people and convince yourselves that the conspiracy is real, and nearly all 7 billion of the rest of us are in on it...

These photos? Are these the ones you speak of? Allright, I'll tell you what...I'll let you sit on your overexposure excuse. And just forget the fact that the solar spikes should be present, overexposure or not...Just leave that out okay....

Now, explain to me how the SUN would CHANGE SIZES when photographed from the surface of the moon? Because HOUSTON we have some splaining to do...

They should have kept their simulated sun in one place for every mission. It might have been more convincing...

pictures of the SUN that appear as if a spotlight instead.

BTW, this is what the sun looks like in space...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n14rrF0kGg[/youtube]
After watching this one I figured out where Buzz and Neil got that piece of petrified wood they tried to pass off to the Dutch as a moon rock. LOL

As for your flaming comments towards myself, and others who don't easily buy into propaganda, and emotional blackmail, it's not working. You could try to add information, sources, etc. to your ramblings here. Otherwise the attempt to discredit my stance doesn't serve you well. At least that's how I see it....

 

[BurgerB75]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Meh, as long as you continue to belittle the efforts of those that allowed humankind to land on the moon you really think you deserve any other kind of treatment? Handwaving is all the hoaxers are good at so you should at least be familiar with it when you see it. But please, continue trying to ride your 15 minutes of fame.

So, yes, you are going to continue trolling, with nothing to add directly to the evidence that Apollo was a fraud/real.

What would you perfer me to do then? Repeat the same evidence that supports the fact that men went to the moon, multiple times at that, when your just going to ignore it? All the hoaxers do is cover their eyes, don the tinfoil hat and go back to living in their little fantasy world.

Let me ask you this as a serious question. If you were in a position to visit the moon in person and saw the Apollo hardware with your own eyes would you discount the whole hoax?

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

ebil gubbermint....funny....I guess all governments are inherently good. They only seek the highest good for their citizens...They would never do things like allow ardent NAZI's to infiltrate our military industrial complex, universities, and space program....Right?

Project Paperclip Von Braun
Mk Ultra Radiation and mind control experiments on unwitting public.

These searches should wake you up from your government is good trance for long enough to end the condescension of those who don't trust everything uncle sam and company is selling.

And what harm did these "nazis" do to us? They contributed a lot to the American space program (Though I guess you don't care much for that either. Didn't you say that the Mercury and Gemini programs were faked also? Hell, why not the shuttle and ISS programs? For that matter what about voyager? Those all could've been faked. Show me some evidence they weren't faked)

BTW, I doubt there was even anyone aboard a Saturn V, ever...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c6ktHYO-I[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ngE6sq2EM[/youtube]

Perhaps your ears will serve you where your eyes have failed thus far.

And as for how they could have gotten back down from their perch on the Saturn V, with no one seeing, this video should suffice..

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLiAwSKkm6k[/youtube]

Whatever you're trying to post as images or videos aren't coming up. But are you actually saying nobody was on board the Saturn V?

The plot thickens

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I guess you didn't watch the videos and hear the vibration-free voices of guys supposedly being launched into space. And therefore you must have missed the comparison to the voices of Shuttle pilots who are ACTUALLY being launched into space.

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

If I wanted fame, I wouldn't be using anonymous nics. I would be on Letterman, radio, tv, with my real name.

I don't want fame there brother. I want truth. And you should too. And since you don't want to do the necessary research, and learning requried to understand the topic being discussed, it's obvious the truth isn't something you have much concern over...

That's too bad!

Actually, if you had any real evidence, fame or not, you'd be out there proving your point. But the fact is, all you've got is the same tired, repeatedly and easily refuted useless accusations that have been going around for decades.

And you are left to post it here at SDC, one of the few scientific websites that allows it to be posted at all, since it is such worthless...garbage. We are very tolerant here, but don't expect to have all higher life forms than vegetables not laugh at you. It's one reason we let such unscientific stuff be posted. It amuses us.

 

[BurgerB75]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

If I wanted fame, I wouldn't be using anonymous nics. I would be on Letterman, radio, tv, with my real name.

I don't want fame there brother. I want truth. And you should too. And since you don't want to do the necessary research, and learning requried to understand the topic being discussed, it's obvious the truth isn't something you have much concern over...

That's too bad!

Actually, if you had any real evidence, fame or not, you'd be out there proving your point. But the fact is, all you've got is the same tired, repeatedly and easily refuted useless accusations that have been going around for decades.

And you are left to post it here at SDC, one of the few scientific websites that allows it to be posted at all, since it is such worthless...garbage. We are very tolerant here, but don't expect to have all higher life forms than vegetables not laugh at you. It's one reason we let such unscientific stuff be posted. It amuses us.

Queue the supression of evidence rant in 3...2...1...

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

And what harm did these "nazis" do to us? They contributed a lot to the American space program (Though I guess you don't care much for that either. Didn't you say that the Mercury and Gemini programs were faked also? Hell, why not the shuttle and ISS programs? For that matter what about voyager? Those all could've been faked. Show me some evidence they weren't faked)

These comments definitely needs addressing!

What harm did the nazs do to us? Are you freaking kidding me? Who is the us you refer to? Is it Jews? Is it captured American Soldiers? Who, is this us that had no HARM done to them?

The CIA, and Truman allowed WAR CRIMINALS to be placed into our society...If our AMERICAN space program was full of crap, and mostly faked missions until the shuttle came along, then I suppose the NAZI's that were placed in our space program, could have done more damage than you could ever imagine. Such as you running around still believing test pilots can withstand life-ending radiation. Look what they've done to you. Isn't that damage enough. If not, you can add the horrific crimes against the jews, and captured american soldiers.


As for showing you evidence, I've shown you plenty. You just won't look at or address it. Why won't you admit that NASA lied about major solar flares? Are you afraid to go to the NGDC and see them for yourself?

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

As for showing you evidence, I've shown you plenty. You just won't look at or address it. Why won't you admit that NASA lied about major solar flares? Are you afraid to go to the NGDC and see them for yourself?

No, you've posted a very long list of mostly minor solar flares. Exactly which ones on that list occurred during the Apollo missions? Do you even know?

 

[Yuri_Armstrong]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

These comments definitely needs addressing!

What harm did the nazs do to us? Are you freaking kidding me? Who is the us you refer to? Is it Jews? Is it captured American Soldiers? Who, is this us that had no HARM done to them?

I can't believe I actually have to clarify this... I meant the scientists like Von Braun who didn't really have a choice to join the nazi party. It was either join the nazi party, or try to escape and/or be killed. It's not like they had a lot of options. The Nazi armies and officers did tremendous damage, OBVIOUSLY I'm not talking about them.

The CIA, and Truman allowed WAR CRIMINALS to be placed into our society...If our AMERICAN space program was full of crap, and mostly faked missions until the shuttle came along, then I suppose the NAZI's that were placed in our space program, could have done more damage than you could ever imagine. Such as you running around still believing test pilots can withstand life-ending radiation. Look what they've done to you. Isn't that damage enough. If not, you can add the horrific crimes against the jews, and captured american soldiers.

And now the conspiracy plot expands to involve Nazi Germany planting scientists into our government to suck up tax dollars. Can I ask where the Empire of Japan plays into this?

As for showing you evidence, I've shown you plenty. You just won't look at or address it. Why won't you admit that NASA lied about major solar flares? Are you afraid to go to the NGDC and see them for yourself?

Again, you're not showing evidence, you're showing photographic anomalies which have been explained and refuted for decades. You're offering "plausible" alternatives to what could have happened even though all the evidence points toward the fact that we landed on the moon.

I'm not sure what voice vibrations you're talking about because whatever you were posting wasn't coming up. Can't really debate "evidence" when I can't see it now can I.

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

If I wanted fame, I wouldn't be using anonymous nics. I would be on Letterman, radio, tv, with my real name.

I don't want fame there brother. I want truth. And you should too. And since you don't want to do the necessary research, and learning requried to understand the topic being discussed, it's obvious the truth isn't something you have much concern over...

That's too bad!

Actually, if you had any real evidence, fame or not, you'd be out there proving your point. But the fact is, all you've got is the same tired, repeatedly and easily refuted useless accusations that have been going around for decades.

And you are left to post it here at SDC, one of the few scientific websites that allows it to be posted at all, since it is such worthless...garbage. We are very tolerant here, but don't expect to have all higher life forms than vegetables not laugh at you. It's one reason we let such unscientific stuff be posted. It amuses us.

This is what I get from a moderator at this forum that is so kind it ALLOWS worthless garbage, to be tolerated. Wow, your diplomacy is only surpassed by the inaccuracy of your comments.


If Apollo happened as advertised, the evidence would stand up for itself, requiring no one, like Windley, and Plait to go around trying to quell all the constant, and growing concerns from citizens who look further than the surface, to understand the truth about Apollo.

If you would click on the articles, and such I've linked, you'll notice most of them are SCIENTIFIC papers. The pictures I have used are either from NASA or science communities. So, where is this UNSCIENTIFIC stuff you refer to?


As a moderator you should know better than to use the type of flaming comments such as you used here. Can you add anything useful, or just insults?

And if all I have is tired, repeatedly, and easily refuted, useless accustions, then why don't you try actually pointing them out? It shouldn't be difficult to drum up some links to answers to these tired accusations of mine. Right?

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

I'm not sure what voice vibrations you're talking about because whatever you were posting wasn't coming up. Can't really debate "evidence" when I can't see it now can I.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c6ktHYO-I[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7ngE6sq2EM[/youtube]

Can you see it now?

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

As for showing you evidence, I've shown you plenty. You just won't look at or address it. Why won't you admit that NASA lied about major solar flares? Are you afraid to go to the NGDC and see them for yourself?

No, you've posted a very long list of mostly minor solar flares. Exactly which ones on that list occurred during the Apollo missions? Do you even know?

You read the heading right?

Comprehensive Flare Index "Major" Flares -- Helen Dodson-Prince

The word is MAJOR. Not MINOR.

Yes I know the dates they all occured as well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU[/youtube]

Feel free to look up those dates for yourself to confirm them. I did. TWICE. ftp://ftp.ngdc.noaa.gov/STP/SOLAR_DATA/SOLAR_FLARES/FLARES_INDEX/McMath/CFI55_80.TXT

Some interesting numbers from Kovalev and Van Allen:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9tIOwWyo8[/youtube]

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

This is what I get from a moderator at this forum that is so kind it ALLOWS worthless garbage, to be tolerated. Wow, your diplomacy is only surpassed by the inaccuracy of your comments.

I am posting as user meteor wayne, which I am allowed to do. When I am posting as Moderator Meteor Wayne, I make it clear I am doing so. And Yes, SDC does allow useless garbage; very few sites do, be thankful

If Apollo happened as advertised, the evidence would stand up for itself, requiring no one, like Windley, and Plait to go around trying to quell all the constant, and growing concerns from citizens who look further than the surface, to understand the truth about Apollo.

The evidence stands up for itself, except for the deliberately credulous.

If you would click on the articles, and such I've linked, you'll notice most of them are SCIENTIFIC papers. The pictures I have used are either from NASA or science communities. So, where is this UNSCIENTIFIC stuff you refer to?

Pretty much everything you've linked to, considering the facts.

As a moderator you should know better than to use the type of flaming comments such as you used here. Can you add anything useful, or just insults?

Again, as a user, I have the same rights you do to post whatever I want. Perhaps you haven't read the Community Guidelines? My Moderator function is completely different. If you violate the rules, you'll know

And if all I have is tired, repeatedly, and easily refuted, useless accustions, then why don't you try actually pointing them out? It shouldn't be difficult to drum up some links to answers to these tired accusations of mine. Right?

After a few years this, it's just not worth the effort. You have been provided links which irrefutably destroy your "arguments". We get tired of repeating it when people such as you refuse to respond to the destruction of your ideas.

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

I can't believe I actually have to clarify this... I meant the scientists like Von Braun who didn't really have a choice to join the nazi party. It was either join the nazi party, or try to escape and/or be killed. It's not like they had a lot of options. The Nazi armies and officers did tremendous damage, OBVIOUSLY I'm not talking about them.

Didn't have a choice to join the nazi party? Really, do tell how that works? Von Braun was a NAZI OFFICER. And how is it that you have information that proves that Von Braun was unwilling in joining the NAZI party? If you have such information please provide a link. Sourced comments are greatly appreciated!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh37r3alzzs[/youtube]

 

[BurgerB75]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

"I was officially demanded to join the National Socialist Party. At this time (1937) I was already technical director of the Army Rocket Center at Peenemünde ... My refusal to join the party would have meant that I would have to abandon the work of my life. Therefore, I decided to join. My membership in the party did not involve any political activities ... in Spring 1940, one SS-Standartenführer (SS Colonel) Müller ... looked me up in my office at Peenemünde and told me that Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler had sent him with the order to urge me to join the SS. I called immediately on my military superior ... Major-General W. Dornberger. He informed me that ... if I wanted to continue our mutual work, I had no alternative but to join." - Wernher von Braun

The Nazi Rocketeers, From Dreams of Space to Crimes of War pp 58

More information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

If you can't even look up Wiki what hope do we have that you will actually listen to anything anyone with a dissenting opinion?

You can put your head back in the sand now.

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

After a few years this, it's just not worth the effort. You have been provided links which irrefutably destroy your "arguments". We get tired of repeating it when people such as you refuse to respond to the destruction of your ideas.

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Okay, first who is this WE you refer to? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Two, you say after a few years of this it's just not worth the effort? If you cannot convince people that Apollo was real, then there must be plenty UNREAL about it?

Refuse to respond to the destruction of your ideas?
Or
Not worth the effort?

Which is it?

I have a third explanation.

Your frightened to look the evidence in the face anymore, as it is mounting up towards convincing you the crazies are right. You just can't bear to look at another video of astronauts bouncing around on wires. It's too disconcerting to the illusion that pumps up your ego, inflates your pride, and chases away the fears that you are being, and have been lied to since your conception.

Wow, I should try using this conjecture angle I see out of the Apollo proponents more often. I didn't have to link a source, and I just make up stuff.

 

[BurgerB75]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

I just make up stuff.

Considering the complete lack of perspective on your part I find this rather amusing.

 

[ZenGalacticore]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Quantum11-

Have you ever asked the question, "If they faked it, why did they fake it six times?"

And why didn't the Russians expose the Moon-landings if they were faked? The Soviets would've been all over it with indignant pride and bluster. Anything that would embarrass the West or make America look bad, at that time, they would've been rabid about it.

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Institute for Historical Review

Propaganda and Disinformation:
How the CIA Manufactures History
 VICTOR MARCHETTI

Paper presented to the Ninth International Revisionist Conference.

In the eyes of posterity it will inevitably seem that, in safeguarding our freedom, we destroyed it. The vast clandestine apparatus we built up to prove our enemies' resources and intentions only served in the end to confuse our own purposes; that practice of deceiving others for the good of the state led infallibly to our deceiving ourselves; and that vast army of clandestine personnel built up to execute these purposes were soon caught up in the web of their own sick fantasies, with disastrous consequences for them and us.

-- Malcom Muggeridge
May 1966

That, in a nutshell, sums up what the CIA has accomplished over the years through its various clandestine propaganda and disinformation programs. It has unwittingly and, often, deliberately decieved itself -- and the American taxpayer. The CIA is a master at distorting history -- even creating its own version of history to suit its institutional and operational purposes. It can do this largely because of two great advantages it possesses. One is the excessively secret environment in which it operates, and the other is that it is essentially a private instrument of the presidency.

The real reason for the official secrecy, in most instances, is not to keep the opposition (the CIA's euphemistic term for the enemy) from knowing what is going on; the enemy usually does know. The basic reason for governmental secrecy is to keep you, the American public, from knowing -- for you, too, are considered the opposition, or enemy -- so that you cannot interfere. When the public does not know what the government or the CIA is doing, it cannot voice its approval or disapproval of their actions. In fact, they can even lie to your about what they are doing or have done, and you will not know it.

As for the second advantage, despite frequent suggestion that the CIA is a rogue elephant, the truth is that the agency functions at the direction of and in response to the office of the president. All of its major clandestine operations are carried out with the direct approval of or on direct orders from the White House. The CIA is a secret tool of the president -- every president. And every president since Truman has lied to the American people in order to protect the agency. When lies have failed, it has been the duty of the CIA to take the blame for the president, thus protecting him. This is known in the business as "plausible denial."

The CIA, functioning as a secret instrument of the U.S. government and the presidency, has long misused and abused history and continues to do so. I first became concerned about this historical distortion in 1957, when I was a young officer in the Clandestine Services of the CIA.
One night, after work, I was walking down Constitution Avenue with a fellow officer, who previously had been a reporter for United Press.
"How are they ever going to know," he asked.
"Who? How is 'who' ever going to know what?" I asked.

"How are the American people ever going to know what the truth is? How are they going to know what the truth is about what we are doing and have done over the years?" he said. "We operate in secrecy, we deal in deception and disinformation, and then we burn our files. How will the historians ever be able to learn the complete truth about what we've done in these various operations, these operations that have had such a major impact on so many important events in history?"

I couldn't answer him, then. And I can't answer him now. I don't know how the American people will ever really know the truth about the many things that the CIA has been involved in. Or how they will ever know the truth about the great historical events of our times. The government is continually writing and rewriting history -- often with the CIA's help -- to suit its own purposes.

Source: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p305_Marchetti.html

The manufacturing of history? Hmmm...The burning of files...What supposedly happened to the technical manuals for the LEM and Rover? I believe the excuse was a fire?

Telemetry tapes missing.

Is it beyond anyone here to consider for a moment that they were duped, long enough to look at Apollo from at least a neutral stance. Everything I keep seeing from people here, are charged comments, conjecture, and handwaving.

Or just keep having blind faith in what a government organization, led and filled with NAZI rocket scientists, told you was truth.

 

[Gravity_Ray]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Quantum11-

Have you ever asked the question, "If they faked it, why did they fake it six times?"

And why didn't the Russians expose the Moon-landings if they were faked? The Soviets would've been all over it with indignant pride and bluster. Anything that would embarrass the West or make America look bad, at that time, they would've been rabid about it.

Logic?!? "We are not amused...".

Actually not just the Russians...

If the Moon Landing is a Hoax then the following people and organizations are in on it...
NASA, USSR, Russia, JAXA, and amateur astronomers everywhere, every scientist ever involved with anything Moon related, every investigative reporter, ESA... blah blah blah (Tens of Thousands of people…)


If the Moon landing is a hoax then the following people are correct...
Conspiracy theorists (dozens of people and their cats)

It’s funny that the average conspiracy theorist will argue with rocket scientists, Nobel-prize winners and every expert in the world in the field of spaceflight and astronomy despite having fewer qualifications than the average fry cook.

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Okay, first who is this WE you refer to? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

No, as I stated, it's the smarter than a vegetable crowd

Two, you say after a few years of this it's just not worth the effort? If you cannot convince people that Apollo was real, then there must be plenty UNREAL about it?

The true woos like you will never be convinced by any serious evidence. Look up credulous.

I have a third explanation.

Your frightened to look the evidence in the face anymore, as it is mounting up towards convincing you the crazies are right. You just can't bear to look at another video of astronauts bouncing around on wires. It's too disconcerting to the illusion that pumps up your ego, inflates your pride, and chases away the fears that you are being, and have been lied to since your conception.

Wow, I should try using this conjecture angle I see out of the Apollo proponents more often. I didn't have to link a source, and I just make up stuff.

Yes you do make stuff up, because everything you use as justification for your opinions has been repeatedly refuted.
Repeatedly (as in hundreds of times) refuted (As in being shown to be without merit). And yes, we do get tired of it.

Tough.

When you have some valid assertions, they will be listened and responded to. When you post the same lame crap, it will be laughed at.
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User Meteor Wayne

 

[mark_d_s]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

WRT exposure, check out sensor bloom - http://www.naturfotograf.com/D70_rev02.html - film has very similar, but less harsh, characteristics.

Listen, do you seriously think that the sort of people frequenting these forums haven't been exposed to the "moon landings were faked" nonsense for years? Do you think you're bringing something new to the table? We've all seen the "evidence" many, may times. However, we just dismiss it as the ravings of lunatics - and for very good reason. Every single point that has ever been raised has been easily refuted, many times over.

The trouble is, certain minorities in the community are simply delusional. Seeking answers for things that have already been answered. Nothing you will ever see will convince you you're wrong - but not because you're right, but because it's not what you want to hear. It's really that simple.

Now, I know you're going to accuse me of trolling or something, but I assure you I speak a truth which nearly every living person will agree with - it's not us that's missing some deep dark secret - it's you desperately trying to find one.


Edit - linked corrected

 

[Quantum11]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Quantum11-

Have you ever asked the question, "If they faked it, why did they fake it six times?"

And why didn't the Russians expose the Moon-landings if they were faked? The Soviets would've been all over it with indignant pride and bluster. Anything that would embarrass the West or make America look bad, at that time, they would've been rabid about it.

You want more conjecture fine.

One quick shot to the moon, would not justify the expense. They had an entire program they used a great deal of public financing for. They had to deliver an entire production. And the simulated Apollo project did just that.

Several reasons Russians would keep their mouths shut.
1. Some of their space missions were concocted as part of their propaganda to fake military/space superiority. You didn't hear the US screaming about that did you?

2. Russia and the US had just come back from what we were told was the brink of Nuclear War just a few years prior. I don't think either the Russians, or the Americans wanted to risk nuclear war by telling on each other about the fraud they were committing against their citizenry.

3. Russia relied heavily on Grain and other exports from the US. They aren't going to risk starvation to out some simple joke their government played on it's citizens.

4. The leaders of Russia and US governments are not really the ones running the show. The Cold War was indeed a show, and a marvelous horror show, scaring citizens into having a great deal of their resources, and money sucked out of them.

You just gotta love this conjecture stuff eh?

But let's move from conjecture shall we?

You can say the russians would have told on us.

I can tell you reasons they would not...

And it could go on forever. But I prefer facts. Technical/scientific facts. I have found the facts. The facts show NASA lied about Major Solar Flares.

Still no one willing to address that fact I see?

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

You mean your imagined "facts" that have been refuted for decades?