NASA appoints new head of UFO research

[Admin]

NASA has named a new director of UFO research who will oversee the agency's studies into UAP, or unidentified anomalous phenomena.

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[Energythebook]

NASA has named a new director of UFO research who will oversee the agency's studies into UAP, or unidentified anomalous phenomena.

NASA appoints new head of UFO research : Read more

I'm concerned that at the onset of a renewed UAP investigation, and without admittedly any concrete evidence, a statement during the announcement seemed to conclude that whatever these objects are, they aren't extrestrial. Such a think cannot be known, unless of course, you know much more than NASA or the Pentagon has admitted to. Or, you simply wish to perpetuate the silence and misdirection we're already so accustomed to from every official source.

 

[billslugg]

You are correct, no one can prove a negative. What they said was none of them passed the criteria for being ET. Only isotopic analysis can prove the origin of things. It is the easiest method, the cheapest method and the only method that cannot be faked. Easily faked images and testimony don't count.

 

[Energythebook]

You are correct, no one can prove a negative. What they said was none of them passed the criteria for being ET. Only isotopic analysis can prove the origin of things. It is the easiest method, the cheapest method and the only method that cannot be faked. Easily faked images and testimony don't count.

True, provided it is false testimony and one is looking for absolute proof, then I agree that testimony alone is insufficient.
However, we both know it isn't false, at least not the predominance of it and much of the video evidence is similarly authentic, as well. After all, if only a single authentic extraterrestrial craft seen is authentic, the we have indeed been visited.
Perhaps we should remember that Gravity remains a theory too. A solid and predictable one no doubt, but one where absolute proof has never been explained.
The American government in all its forms has traditionally denied the possibility of such a visitation, and continues to do so today, it has mocked any suggestion that what's being seen throughout the world could be extraterrestrial simply because it cannot explain how it might be possible, and that doesn't appear scientific to me.
I'm very happy Mr. Einstein didn't subscribe to that methodology.

 

[billslugg]

Yes, I am looking for absolute proof. Testimony and images have no value in establishing this proof. Both are easily faked.

"However, we both know it isn't false,"
A false statement. It is false until proven true. Right now, your claims are "false".

 

[Energythebook]

Yes, I am looking for absolute proof. Testimony and images have no value in establishing this proof. Both are easily faked.

"However, we both know it isn't false,"
A false statement. It is false until proven true. Right now, your claims are "false".

So is yours.

Yes, I am looking for absolute proof. Testimony and images have no value in establishing this proof. Both are easily faked.

"However, we both know it isn't fal
A false statement. It is false until proven true. Right now, your claims are "false".

Double talk. Science is dependant on speculation. Astromony itself is full of it, yet lessons and books are written on many topics lacking absolute truth and you must know it. In fact, all of science evolves as more accurate speculation develops.
Science isn't stifled by absolutes, except perhaps where it comes to UFOs.
You can demand concrete evidence if you like, but with a decades long governmental campaign to sequester any and all evidence, finding any becomes nearly impossible. Any evidence that does escape their grasp, is belittled and slated as "false". As you have. But millions aren't reporting giant spiders traversing the woodlands, or intelligent ooz rolling down city streets, they are reporting and recording technologies we know nothing of quite consistently and the sudden dedication to absolutes is therefore, highly suspicious. Besides, I doubt anyone thought NASA would announce they believed the objects were extraterrestrial., but no one expected that NASA would be so directly opposed to that possibility as to make the announcement they did. In retrospect however, its just another branch of government, so not surprising at all.

 

[billslugg]

Science demands absolutes wherever they are available. In the case of ET, isotopic analysis is handy, cheap, easy to do and incapable of being falsified.

The job of the believer is to provide the evidence. The job of the skeptic is to evaluate it. When the believer does the evaluation there is a "conflict of interest". This is why we don't let employees write their own paychecks.

Right now, the case for ET has zero evidence. NASA told us there is no current evidence for ET, they did not say ET does not exist.

 

[Dave]

So NASA has decided to join the military in the false pretense of denying these sightings are real. Credible witnesses mean nothing to them. Credible testimony is continually ignored.
(See congressional hearing 'UFO whistleblowers' dated July the 26th)

Some choose for whatever reason to deny basic common sense. WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE SEEING? (Is the question) The answer is simple: intelligent lifeforms observing the earth who do not wish to be discovered. You are not going to find scientific data or evidence because a better science (that is another species more advanced wishes to remain anonymous.) Everyone else wishes to wash their hands ignoring the truth.

Will the new director forego the status quo of lies , misdirection, cover ups then silence. Time will tell.

The good news is that bipartisan members of congress are investigating the claims and testimony of the whistleblowers. We can all look forward to the results. Here, there is a real chance that the truth will finally be heard.

 

[billslugg]

I am sure the credible witnesses saw something. They are not lying. They are just confused in what they saw. Humans are notoriously bad at visual observation. Lots of studies done on that.
Plus the inability to replicate the observation.
Plus the huge amount of money and fame that would be showered upon the first person to prove it, thus there being a conflict of interest.
Plus the complete lack of punishment for liars.
Plus the ease at which images and videos can be faked.
This is thin gruel. I want some beef. Like an actual piece of a UAP.

 

[Dave]

Of course the credible witnesses observed something. Spacecraft performing maneuvers that defy the laws of physics. They are not confused. Simple observations. Simple facts. Countless times this has been seen by a countless number of credible witnesses. if this were a court of law hands down you would lose your case. I would have hundreds of credible witnesses on my side. The reasonable explanation is the simplest one. They are spacecraft belonging to an advanced species of intelligent lifeforms that do not wish to be discovered. Their science is beyond our understanding for the moment.

At some point in the future the human race will do the same. We will venture to the stars. We will observe intelligent lifeforms less advanced than we are. If the species in question, is socially aggressive and dangerous we will not contact them. We will observe only. The real question is: what would a more advanced lifeform do if they found us?

Why does the military continue to cover up the truth? Why all the misdirection? Bipartisan members of congress will get to the bottom of it.

 

[billslugg]

"Spacecraft performing maneuvers that defy the laws of physics. Simple observations." - Dave
No laws of physics being violated. It may look like it, but it isn't. Humans, even trained aviators, are notoriously inaccurate when judging speeds while looking out the windshield.
Air Canada flight 878 Toronto-Zurich, Jan 14, 2011. Sixteen people injured when pilot mistakes Venus for an approaching airplane, sends 767 into a dive.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/17/travel/canada-disoriented-pilot/index.html#:~:text=Fourteen passengers and two flight attendants were injured.,where the injured passengers and crew were treated.

 

[Dave]

I don't believe our whistleblowers saw Venus. They saw spacecraft defying the laws of physics. No intelligent lifeform observing earth would mistake the ISS for a second moon of earth. They would see it orbiting our world for years, and see it for what it is. An alien spacecraft created by an intelligent alien race. The thinking here is: they are pretty smart.

One day, soon we hope, those of us who believe 'we are not alone' would really enjoy having a level playing field with the rest of you. Can't remember the last time I read a news article with the viewpoint we are not alone before July the 26th. Then the pendulum swung on the side of the truth their for awhile. Mainstream news was backing us. The military and NASA continued to spin lies drowning us out.

The bipartisan members of congress they continue their investigation.