SETI chief says US has no evidence for alien technology. 'And we never have

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For the chief leader of the SETI Institute, established to search for and understand life beyond Earth, there's a need to step back and cuddle up to a cup of cosmic reality.

SETI chief says US has no evidence for alien technology. 'And we never have : Read more

 

[Beauxdensteiner]

What's all them thar' videos that the Navy has of them little flying things flying all around them thar' airplanes? What's all them 'air??? Because if it's not interdimensional beings or extraterrestrial beings or fairies then Sherlock would say we might be in trouble... Because who else could it be? The Russians? The Chinese? Ourselves? One way or the other, it's definitely something because I have seen at least two myself (in a group of people so we knew it wasn't hallucination) but they were not large spaceship looking things. They were more like what people describe as fairy lights. Seeing is believing.

 

[COLGeek]

What's all them thar' videos that the Navy has of them little flying things flying all around them thar' airplanes? What's all them 'air??? Because if it's not interdimensional beings or extraterrestrial beings or fairies then Sherlock would say we might be in trouble... Because who else could it be? The Russians? The Chinese? Ourselves? One way or the other, it's definitely something because I have seen at least two myself (in a group of people so we knew it wasn't hallucination) but they were not large spaceship looking things. They were more like what people describe as fairy lights. Seeing is believing.

I have no doubt you saw something. As to what it was is in question.

Eyewitness testimony is often misleading. That is an endless debate all in itself.

Riddle me this. With all the high-definition cameras covering the globe, why do none of them ever capture a clear image of these UAPs/UFOs?

Seeing is believing, but belief is subject to interpretation, misconception, and rationalization that may simply not be true.

 

[p3orion]

I have no doubt you saw something. As to what it was is in question.

Eyewitness testimony is often misleading. That is an endless debate all in itself.

Riddle me this. With all the high-definition cameras covering the globe, why do none of them ever capture a clear image of these UAPs/UFOs?

Seeing is believing, but belief is subject to interpretation, misconception, and rationalization that may simply not be true.

Quite right. For some five decades following the Roswell "crash" that inaugurated the UFO craze, eyewitness observations were largely hampered by the fact that it was often unlikely that there was any photographic evidence to back up the accounts. But in the last 20 years, the likelihood that there's a camera immediately available to ANY group of people at any given time has risen by several orders of magnitude, and yet there has been no corresponding rise in the number of photos of "flying saucers." If anything, they seem to have decreased.

Not to imply that all UFO encounter photos of the 1950s through the early 2000s were deliberate hoaxes, but certainly some were. In those days, it would have taken a modicum of effort and skill to fabricate a believeable UFO photo; that level of difficulty tended to lend such photos at least a little credibility: "if it isn't real, how could he have done it?" But now anyone can use PhotoShop or even AI to generate an authentic-looking photo in mere minutes. Stripped of their presumption of reality, evidently it's just no fun to hoax anymore, and the supply has dropped off. Those reports and photos that are left --actual sightings of something, as by airline and military pilots-- are, if not explained, still most likely explainable, as something other than a visit by little green men.

Like the author, I am convinced (by the mathematics alone) that it's almost 100% certain there is other life in the universe, and that there are even intelligent civilizations. It is much much less likely that we have ever encountered any of them, or they us.

 

[Classical Motion]

Those "tic tac" objects and those gold orbs were interesting. I haven't heard anything further on the orbs. But I did read an interesting article about those tic tacs. It reported that the tic tac video image screens were set at the wrong range. It's lowest range, something like 50 meters. Two planes in formation were set that way, the others in that patrol were not. Only those two planes recorded that, the others were clear and looking for what the other thought they were seeing.

Extremely embarrassing for a navel aviator. And no other explanations were offered.

Haven't heard anything about the orbs.

However my experience with DSP, multiple sensors, and RF networking of them.....have shown to produce multiple processing artifacts. Most are filtered and cancelled out. But with this type of threat, and the software used, an un-expected artifact could be considered a target and plotted. Better to plot a fake, than to not plot a target. Allowing human pilot or operator to verify.

If there was ANY evidence of UFOs, we would have seen it.

There is none. And our present science says there can not be.

Only star trek and star wars science can do these things.

Observation is the easiest and the oldest method of deception. A predatory method.

 

[Dave]

A thousand years ago Europeans did not come to the Americas. It was impossible at the time. The earth was flat. How did that all turn out?
Countless UAP spacecraft have been seen that defy the laws of physics. These are true observations and as much as we would like to believe we are the center of the universe, we are not. Intelligent lifeforms observing us do not wish contact. They do not wish to be discovered. Their science is a better science.

The people who collect the data on this subject are the military. For decades they have lied covered up and misled not only the public, but congress as well. Finally there is some push back by bipartisan members of congress. They will get to the bottom of it and reveal the truth. It will take time. Even at this very moment they have to fight tooth and nail to get any answers. Let mainstream scientists investigate UAP sightings. Allow future whistleblowers access to congressional meetings. People can rationalize anything away they like, but not the truth.

 

[BuckTurgidson]

I have no doubt you saw something. As to what it was is in question.

Eyewitness testimony is often misleading. That is an endless debate all in itself.

Riddle me this. With all the high-definition cameras covering the globe, why do none of them ever capture a clear image of these UAPs/UFOs?

Seeing is believing, but belief is subject to interpretation, misconception, and rationalization that may simply not be true.

I would suggest spending a bit more time reviewing the testimony of Cmdr. David Fravor (USN Ret.), et al, regarding the 2004 Nimitz incident. The evidence is compelling and supported by multiple sensors -- both air and ship-borne. Ignoring these data points highly suggests the desire not to find anything.

 

[BuckTurgidson]

Those "tic tac" objects and those gold orbs were interesting. I haven't heard anything further on the orbs. But I did read an interesting article about those tic tacs. It reported that the tic tac video image screens were set at the wrong range. It's lowest range, something like 50 meters. Two planes in formation were set that way, the others in that patrol were not. Only those two planes recorded that, the others were clear and looking for what the other thought they were seeing.

Extremely embarrassing for a navel aviator. And no other explanations were offered.

Haven't heard anything about the orbs.

However my experience with DSP, multiple sensors, and RF networking of them.....have shown to produce multiple processing artifacts. Most are filtered and cancelled out. But with this type of threat, and the software used, an un-expected artifact could be considered a target and plotted. Better to plot a fake, than to not plot a target. Allowing human pilot or operator to verify.

If there was ANY evidence of UFOs, we would have seen it.

There is none. And our present science says there can not be.

Only star trek and star wars science can do these things.

Observation is the easiest and the oldest method of deception. A predatory method.

How did "nothing" get tracked by multiple sensor suites, including radar aboard the Princeton and Mark I eyeballs in the air and on the water -- over multiple days? How did this "nothing" get to the exercise's CAP point in mere seconds -- a location not widely briefed and impossible to reach in that time frame. How could experienced fighter pilots maneuver against "nothing," and find themselves unable to match its performance, though they were in state-of-the-art fighters that should be capable of daylight bfm with any peer or near-peer aircraft in the world?

I'll be charitable and suggest you're either ignorant of the topic as a whole, or you're being completely disingenuous.

 

[COLGeek]

People can rationalize anything away they like, but not the truth.

Agreed. Even if one is not willing to accept the reality of the matter.

 

[COLGeek]

I would suggest spending a bit more time reviewing the testimony of Cmdr. David Fravor (USN Ret.), et al, regarding the 2004 Nimitz incident. The evidence is compelling and supported by multiple sensors -- both air and ship-borne. Ignoring these data points highly suggests the desire not to find anything.

Thank you for the suggestion. Sorry, but there is nothing of substance there.

The U does not mean extraterrestrial. I am more than familiar with all of those sensor platforms and how they work, including their capabilities and limitations.

 

[BuckTurgidson]

Thank you for the suggestion. Sorry, but there is nothing of substance there.

The U does not mean extraterrestrial. I am more than familiar with all of those sensor platforms and how they work, including their capabilities and limitations.

And we wonder why trust in institutions is so abysmal right now. But you keep toeing the party line.

 

[billslugg]

The only thing that will convince anyone is a piece of a UFO. Your protestations are nothing but hand waving and gum flapping.