STS-125 Hubble Repair Mission (Atlantis) [May 2009?]

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Expect an official announcement in a week or so. The new lauch date will be Sunday Oct. 2ndSTS-126 will move to Nov. 4th <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV><br /><br />Any idea of what the EDT launch time would be for Oct 2? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Any idea of what the EDT launch time would be for Oct 2? <br />Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I BELIEVE it will be approx. 2130 hrs.....I am not sure<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;I BELIEVE it will be approx. 2130 hrs.....I am not sure <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV><br /><br />OK, thanks, in October, that's a nighttime launch where I can look for it off the coast in NJ before MECO. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;No it should move later by about three hours to 4:30am local. Hubble flights are about 28-31 minutes earlier each subsequent day. <br />Posted by Betsy</DIV><br /><br />That might apply to an ISS mission, where launch is predicated on the plane of the orbit passing overhead. </p><p>For the HST, which is in a perfect KSC inclination orbit (~28 degrees inclination)&nbsp;I don't think that rule applies. It's in a near circular,&nbsp;565 km orbit. The orbital period is ~ 95.84 minutes per&nbsp;orbit. Much higher than the ISS, and also slower than the ISS.&nbsp; Since the Shuttle launch will be mush higher than any of the last few dozen missions, I don't know how best to manage that. So the launch time will be dictated by the efficient use of the launch energy.</p><p>There's a LOT of EVA time for the mission, so the sooner they get there, the more slack time there is. It all depends on what the mission primary parameters are. Until I hear from s_g or NASA, I won't even speculate.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

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&nbsp;I BELIEVE it will be approx. 2130 hrs.....I am not sure <br /> Posted by shuttle_guy[/QUOTE</p><p>This post is meant to go before the one above me; sorry meteorwayne. I had found myself logged out recently, and I still incur that strange user account problem I had when this new forum came into being.</p><p>That was really my post above as follows: </p><p>"No it should move later by about three hours to 4:30am local. Hubble flights are about 28-31 minutes earlier each subsequent day" </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>That might apply to an ISS mission, where launch is predicated on the plane of the orbit passing overhead. For the HST, which is in a perfect KSC inclination orbit (~28 degrees inclination)&nbsp;I don't think that rule applies. Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>ISS is 23-25 minutes earlier each day. Hubble is 28-31. Check out this STS-109 windows chart:</p><p>http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts109/fdf/109windows.html</p><p>&nbsp;I don't expect it to be any different.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;ISS is 23-25 minutes earlier each day. Hubble is 28-31. Check out this STS-109 windows chart:http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts109/fdf/109windows.htmlI don't expect it to be any different.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by bpcooper</DIV><br /><br />Why would it be 4:30 AM then? The Oct 8 time was 1:34 AM EDT, 6 days X ~ 30 minutes should be ~3 hours earlier, or 22:30 EDT. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Why would it be 4:30 AM then? The Oct 8 time was 1:34 AM EDT, 6 days X ~ 30 minutes should be ~3 hours earlier, or 22:30 EDT. <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>Thirty minutes earlier each day later, third minutes later each day moved up. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Thirty minutes earlier each day later, third minutes later each day moved up. <br />Posted by bpcooper</DIV><br /><br />Ben, your going 3 hours later rather than 3 hours earlier! <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Ben, your going 3 hours later rather than 3 hours earlier! <br /> Posted by MeteorWayne</DIV></p><p>The launch time gets earlier each day into the future. If the date moves up from the 8th to the 2nd, the launch time will be later in the day, not earlier. Same for ISS.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The launch time gets earlier each day into the future. If the date moves up from the 8th to the 2nd, the launch time will be later in the day, not earlier. Same for ISS. <br />Posted by bpcooper</DIV><br /><br />D'oh!</p><p>Thanx for getting through my thick head!</p><p>Wayne</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[bobble_bob]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Expect an official announcement in a week or so. The new lauch date will be Sunday Oct. 2ndSTS-126 will move to Nov. 4th <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV><br /><br />2nd is a Thursday <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[3488]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">2nd is a Thursday <br /> Posted by bobble_bob</font></DIV></p><p><strong><font size="2">It is indeed Bob.&nbsp;</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Thank you very much guys for your updates. Quite enjoyed reading through this thread. I too will attempt to watch the launch live on NASA TV, so also I need to be kept in the loop.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Great to see you again Ben, been a while hope life is treating you very well. Please keep up your excellent photography. Trust & hope you'll be at the Cape for the launch. </font></strong></p><p><font size="2"><strong>P.S. Love your photographs from your South America / Antarctica trip. Like the onboard ship pictures of Orion, strange from a southern hemisphere view, belt pointing up to Sirius & down to Aldebaran.</strong></font></p><p><strong><font size="2">Hi Shuttleguy, great to see you again also. What likelihood is it that the launch will move forward. Usually it's the other way, due to inclement weather, etc.&nbsp;</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Andrew Brown.&nbsp;</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[bpcooper]

<p>Well thanks! It was an amazing trip, the top of my list of something to see before I die. Now I hope I can return and see more down there. I still am on here daily. It just hasn't been the same since the new forum took shape, and I have not seen any tweaks to it since day one (like the above's signature ;-) </p><p>The only thing I have read on the news sites to suggest otherwise is that the payload guys at GSFC say they can't be ready before the 8th if not later. But I guess that could change.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>==========</p><p>PS MeteorWayne, I got there to photograph it in May. Check my site. </p><p>^^^&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-Ben</p> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well thanks! It was an amazing trip, the top of my list of something to see before I die. Now I hope I can return and see more down there. I still am on here daily. It just hasn't been the same since the new forum took shape, and I have not seen any tweaks to it since day one (like the above's signature ;-) The only thing I have read on the news sites to suggest otherwise is that the payload guys at GSFC say they can't be ready before the 8th if not later. But I guess that could change.&nbsp; <br />Posted by bpcooper</DIV><br /><br />BTW, are you going to make it to Yankee Stadium this year? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>2nd is a Thursday <br />Posted by bobble_bob</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, I glanced at the wrong canendar month.&nbsp; Thanks for the correction<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>.Hi...................... Shuttleguy, great to see you again also. What likelihood is it that the launch will move forward. Usually it's the other way, due to inclement weather, etc.&nbsp;Andrew Brown.&nbsp; <br />Posted by 3488</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>From a vehicle and ground equipment stand point we should not slip the launch. However being on the pad durin the peak of hurrican season is always a bit risky. If there are no hurricanes the night time launch should give us good weather.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;ISS is 23-25 minutes earlier each day. Hubble is 28-31. Check out this STS-109 windows chart:http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts109/fdf/109windows.htmlI don't expect it to be any different.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />Posted by bpcooper</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks for the link to previous Hubble launch windows. I had remembered incorrectly.....thus my "I am not sure".</p><p>Being old I&nbsp;know better than to trust my memory.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>&nbsp;Thanks for the link to previous Hubble launch windows. I had remembered incorrectly.....thus my "I am not sure".Being old I&nbsp;know better than to trust my memory. <br />Posted by shuttle_guy</DIV></p><p>The ET for STS-125 arrived at KSC yesterday. It is now in the VAB high bay 4 checkout cell. We still need the ET for STS-126 before we are in good shape to launch the STS-125 Hubble mission in early Oct.&nbsp;</p><p><br /><br />&nbsp;</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobble_bob]

<p>"Assuming the revised target dates are selected, the shuttle Atlantis would take off on the Hubble servicing mission at 3:02:18 a.m. EDT on Oct. 5. The telescope would be grappled around 1:28 a.m. on Oct. 7 and the first of five back-to-back spacewalks to service and upgrade the observatory would begin later that day at 8:17 p.m. If all goes well, Hubble would be released from the shuttle around 9:13 p.m. on Oct. 12 and Atlantis would land back at the Kennedy Space Center on Oct. 16 at 12:04 a.m."</p><p><font color="#5574b9">http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html</font></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[3488]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff0000">"Assuming the revised target dates are selected, the shuttle Atlantis would take off on the Hubble servicing mission at 3:02:18 a.m. EDT on Oct. 5. The telescope would be grappled around 1:28 a.m. on Oct. 7 and the first of five back-to-back spacewalks to service and upgrade the observatory would begin later that day at 8:17 p.m. If all goes well, Hubble would be released from the shuttle around 9:13 p.m. on Oct. 12 and Atlantis would land back at the Kennedy Space Center on Oct. 16 at 12:04 a.m.<font color="#000080">"http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html </font><br /> Posted by bobble_bob</font></DIV></p><p><strong><font size="2">Thanks for the updates everyone.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Does anyone know how high Atlantis will boost Hubble's orbit? I wondwer if it would be prudent to take Hubble up as high as Atlantis can take her. Surely that would extend Hubble's life considerably, given the fact these upgrades & repairs to Hubble will last for years themselves.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">From the view point of Astronomy, a higher Hubble orbit will mean a slightly longer orbital period, thus making tracking of targets under observation, less demanding on the gyros' etc?</font></strong></p><p><strong><font size="2">Or am I talking nonsense?????? </font></strong> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/11/0a8bcef2-6e5e-46d4-8be3-d8ac5af02493.Medium.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/7/7dcd4dc9-56e0-4a34-976f-f5fe83439284.Medium.gif" alt="" /><br /> <br /> </p><p><strong><font size="2">Andrew Brown.</font></strong></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080">"I suddenly noticed an anomaly to the left of Io, just off the rim of that world. It was extremely large with respect to the overall size of Io and crescent shaped. It seemed unbelievable that something that big had not been visible before".</font> <em><strong><font color="#000000">Linda Morabito </font></strong><font color="#800000">on discovering that the Jupiter moon Io was volcanically active. Friday 9th March 1979.</font></em></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://www.launchphotography.com/</font><br /><br /><font size="1" color="#000080">http://anthmartian.googlepages.com/thisislandearth</font></p><p><font size="1" color="#000080">http://web.me.com/meridianijournal</font></p> </div>

 

[Testing]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Thanks for the updates everyone.Does anyone know how high Atlantis will boost Hubble's orbit? I wondwer if it would be prudent to take Hubble up as high as Atlantis can take her. Surely that would extend Hubble's life considerably, given the fact these upgrades & repairs to Hubble will last for years themselves.From the view point of Astronomy, a higher Hubble orbit will mean a slightly longer orbital period, thus making tracking of targets under observation, less demanding on the gyros' etc?Or am I talking nonsense?????? Andrew Brown. <br />Posted by 3488</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;Abit of info from Colleen Hartman<br />http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/LastMissiontoHubble</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[bobble_bob]

Not good for for the UK users on these forums for the next 2 launches. Both will launch in the early hours UK time <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[MeteorWayne]

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Not good for for the UK users on these forums for the next 2 launches. Both will launch in the early hours UK time <br />Posted by bobble_bob</DIV><br /><br />Well, if the Hubble mission date only moves a few days, it will be before midnight.... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#000080"><em><font color="#000000">But the Krell forgot one thing John. Monsters. Monsters from the Id.</font></em> </font></p><p><font color="#000080">I really, really, really, really miss the "first unread post" function</font><font color="#000080"> </font></p> </div>

 

[shuttle_guy]

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Thanks for the updates everyone.Does anyone know how high Atlantis will boost Hubble's orbit? I wondwer if it would be prudent to take Hubble up as high as Atlantis can take her. Surely that would extend Hubble's life considerably, given the fact these upgrades & repairs to Hubble will last for years themselves.From the view point of Astronomy, a higher Hubble orbit will mean a slightly longer orbital period, thus making tracking of targets under observation, less demanding on the gyros' etc?Or am I talking nonsense?????? Andrew Brown. <br />Posted by 3488</DIV></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>We always take as much prop to Hubble&nbsp;as we can so that the Hubble can be bosted as much as possible.<br /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>