Battle Star Gallatica

bearack · Jun 30, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>So... Were they good looking women in spandex in the last three episodes?<Inserts Key>   <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />Whelp, no.  Some goofy guys where some even goffier hats.</p><p><img src="http://deadcityradio.org/noise/galactica_1980_cylons.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 30, 2008

<p>Hmm.. Maybe they were looking for these guys?</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/4/15/14891af7-5f39-4e76-8ff0-34436d0e8c01.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

yevaud · Jul 2, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hmm.. Maybe they were looking for these guys?   </p><p>Posted by <em>a_lost_packet_</em></DIV></p><p><br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/10/8/da8b5ce9-74d4-4d90-8821-cf89e91d04b4.Medium.jpg" alt="" /></p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

bearack · Jul 2, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> <br />Posted by yevaud</DIV><br /><br />You hear about the law suit Devo has against McDonalds?</p><p>http://www.prefixmag.com/news/devo-sues-mcdonalds/19569/</p><p>ROFL!!</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 2, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You hear about the law suit Devo has against McDonalds?http://www.prefixmag.com/news/devo-sues-mcdonalds/19569/ROFL!! <br /> Posted by bearack</DIV></p><p><em>"..."This New Wave Nigel doll that they've created is just a complete <span class="inline-artist-link">Devo</span> rip-off and the red hat is exactly the red hat that I designed, and it's copyrighted and trademarked,” says <span class="inline-artist-link">Devo</span> bass player Gerald Castle. “They didn't ask us anything. Plus, we don't like McDonald's, and we don't like American Idol, so we're doubly offended." The toys also play a tune that the band describes as a “Devo-esque song..."</em></p><p>Awesome!  Typical Devo - "Screw you, screw your crappy toy, screw your restaurant you friggin jerkholes!"

</p><p>I hope they win and make an album about it.

</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

yevaud · Jul 3, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>"..."This New Wave Nigel doll that they've created is just a complete Devo rip-off and the red hat is exactly the red hat that I designed, and it's copyrighted and trademarked,” says Devo bass player Gerald Castle. “They didn't ask us anything. Plus, we don't like McDonald's, and we don't like American Idol, so we're doubly offended." The toys also play a tune that the band describes as a “Devo-esque song..."Awesome!  Typical Devo - "Screw you, screw your crappy toy, screw your restaurant you friggin jerkholes!"

I hope they win and make an album about it.

<br /> </p><p>Posted by <em>a_lost_packet_</em></DIV></p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/2/f8739a9a-fa01-4381-b2d4-3d9f1211a405.Medium.gif" alt="" /></p><p> </p><p>Devo is the Balls.  I really like "Coal Mine" as a seminal 80's song (that opening bass line!).  You? </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 4, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>  Devo is the Balls.  I really like "Coal Mine" as a seminal 80's song (that opening bass line!).  You? <br /> Posted by yevaud</DIV></p><p>Devo was my introduction to the rebellious punk scene, even though they were more pop-punk by that time.  That lead me down the road to The Dead Kennedy's and Black Flag for awhile.

  So, yeah, it's a definite hallmark of that era, no doubt about it. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

Arion · Jul 21, 2008

BSG is a successful thread everywhere. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

bearack · Jul 21, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>BSG is a successful thread everywhere. <br />Posted by Arion</DIV><br /><br />LOL, I have to agree.  Anywhere you go, there pretty much is a BSG thread....even during the hiatus.</p><p> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><br /><img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /></p> </div>

vidargander · Jul 21, 2008

Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Devo was my introduction to the rebellious punk scene, even though they were more pop-punk by that time.  That lead me down the road to The Dead Kennedy's and Black Flag for awhile.

  So, yeah, it's a definite hallmark of that era, no doubt about it. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><p style="margin:0cm0cm0pt" class="MsoNormal"> </p><p style="margin:0cm0cm0pt" class="MsoNormal">Wonder what McDonalds was thinking – if thinking at all.<br />There is truly de-evolutions at the ‘top of the food-chain’.</p><p style="margin:0cm0cm0pt" class="MsoNormal"> </p><p style="margin:0cm0cm0pt" class="MsoNormal">Disney seems to have earned some respect though.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo_2.0<br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5195470385373404117</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

vidargander · Jul 21, 2008

<p>Sorry - I lost track for a moment.</p><p><br />This is what it's about ... <br /><img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/6/935252a9-d0b8-4d61-8694-9e5054b9ba47.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />... isn't it?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · Jul 21, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Devo was my introduction to the rebellious punk scene, even though they were more pop-punk by that time.  That lead me down the road to The Dead Kennedy's and Black Flag for awhile.

  So, yeah, it's a definite hallmark of that era, no doubt about it. <br /> </p><p>Posted by <em>a_lost_packet_</em></DIV></p><p>The singular song I heard that made me Punk was "Take Me To The River," by the Talking Heads.  Mind you, this was 1978, early on in my Army career.  What an eye-opener that song was.  After that, of course, it was kitty-bar-the-door, and I followed everyone from the <em>Mekons</em> through <em>Sisters of Mercy</em> and beyond.</p><p>I can actually state with some certainty that I was one of the very <em>first</em> Punk Rockers in the US Army. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 21, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>The singular song I heard that made me Punk was "Take Me To The River," by the Talking Heads.  Mind you, this was 1978, early on in my Army career.  What an eye-opener that song was.  After that, of course, it was kitty-bar-the-door, and I followed everyone from the Mekons through Sisters of Mercy and beyond.I can actually state with some certainty that I was one of the very first Punk Rockers in the US Army. Posted by yevaud</DIV></p><p>LOL  You were definitely on the scene then.  So, did you spray-paint your high&tight purple?

</p><p>I didn't hit punk until 1980 or so.  Even then, I wasn't that heavy into the scene. I was more of the heavy-metal type that liked hanging out with the punks because of the chicks.

  Since I was obviously not part of the "establishment" and doing my own thing with heavy-metal fandom, nobody had a problem.  The funny thing was that most punkers were definitely against most drug abuse and such where I was.  Drinking was universal and maybe a little pot here and there in the punk scene.  But, meth, acid, cocaine and all the heavier things associated with fringe groups weren't an issue.  Headbangers abused more pot/alcohol/drugs than the punkers I knew.  Most of the more popular punk guys were squeeky clean when it came to that kind of thing. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

yevaud · Jul 21, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>LOL  You were definitely on the scene then.  So, did you spray-paint your high&tight purple?

</DIV></p><p>Dear God, no.  I was more of the longish-haired, ripped jeans, t-shirt and sneakers set.  Slam dancing.  Doc Martens, that sort of thing.</p><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I didn't hit punk until 1980 or so.  Even then, I wasn't that heavy into the scene. I was more of the heavy-metal type that liked hanging out with the punks because of the chicks.

</DIV></p><p>Oh yes, the Madonna clones, and mod-ish "sensitive" Grrls.  I remember well, young Padawan. 

  I always <em>did</em> like that ripped black fishnet stocking and many hair barrette look. How Punk scene was I?  Let's just say the lead Bartender at a notorious local Punk club knew me and the GF so well, he'd cue up our drinks when we walked into the place. 

</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 21, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Dear God, no.  I was more of the longish-haired, ripped jeans, t-shirt and sneakers set.  Slam dancing.  Doc Martens, that sort of thing.</DIV></p><p>I had the long-haird (damn, I had some long hair man, seriously.. wtf did it all go?) ripped jeans, concert t-shirt and jean VEST (go figure) with concert buttons, ribbons, patches and even bandanas hanging off it.  Shoes back then were "Wallabies" among the Head set so I wore those and occassionally switched them out for heavy boots. (Boots were great at concerts when you've got "Floor" tickets.  In school, after teachers got tired of trying to figure out whether or not to say something to me about my getup, I started wearing the classic Head gear - untucked flannel shirt, concert t-shirt, ripped jeans and Wallabies. </p><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Oh yes, the Madonna clones, and mod-ish "sensitive" Grrls.  I remember well, young Padawan. 

  I always did like that ripped black fishnet stocking and many hair barrette look. How Punk scene was I?  Let's just say the lead Bartender at a notorious local Punk club knew me and the GF so well, he'd cue up our drinks when we walked into the place. 

Posted by yevaud</DIV></p><p>LOL. I used to buy beer by the milk-jug from a liquor store.  He'd fill me up from a keg for a couple of bucks.  Later, in college, we initiated a local bar owner because it gave us something to do on Sundays.  That was my introduction to "Networking 101." 

</p><p>As far as the girls go, you can't beat the Headbanger girls back then.  But, the punk chicks would just sometimes go crazy on you for no reason... the GOOD kind of crazy.  .. met a punker girl back then once.. pleather mini, fishnets and legs all the way up... those were the days. </p><p>Oh.. and to stay on topic...</p><p><br /> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/11/4/cbb684fa-ca3e-4a44-8433-c88097dc8835.Medium.jpg" alt="" /><br /> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Jul 22, 2008

<p>Oh like wow man ... I'm having a flashback.  What no mention of the Ramones .... 

</p><p> </p><p>How long 'till BSG comes back ?</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p>-----------------------------------------------------</p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,</font></p><p><font color="#ff0000">Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, <strong>STOP</strong> !</font></p> </div>

yevaud · Jul 23, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>How long 'till BSG comes back ? <br /> </p><p>Posted by <em>mee_n_mac</em></DIV></p><p>Not until the beginning of '09 - discounting any in-between episodes they may have planned.</p><p>Btw, here's the latest on <em>Caprica</em>: </p><p><span class="lw-text">"The end of humanity has a beginning."<br /><br />So goes the not-so-cheery tagline for <em>Caprica</em>, the <em>Battlestar Galactica</em> prequel. The two-hour TV movie about the pre-apocalypse may or may not be a backdoor pilot to a new series, according to Sci Fi Channel's president, Dave Howe.</span> </p><p><u><strong>Full Article</strong></u> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis: </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 23, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>...Btw, here's the latest on Caprica: "The end of humanity has a beginning."So goes the not-so-cheery tagline for Caprica, the Battlestar Galactica prequel. The two-hour TV movie about the pre-apocalypse may or may not be a backdoor pilot to a new series, according to Sci Fi Channel's president, Dave Howe. Full Article Posted by yevaud</DIV></p><p>Hmm</p><p>I'm not sure how much I like the whole "retro" look.  Parrallels like that are something I find a little unsettling and it's hard to suspend disbelief at times. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

vidargander · Jul 23, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>...Btw, here's the latest on Caprica: "The end of humanity has a beginning."So goes the not-so-cheery tagline for Caprica, the Battlestar Galactica prequel. The two-hour TV movie about the pre-apocalypse may or may not be a backdoor pilot to a new series, according to Sci Fi Channel's president, Dave Howe. Posted by yevaud</DIV></p><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>HmmI'm not sure how much I like the whole "retro" look.  Parrallels like that are something I find a little unsettling and it's hard to suspend disbelief at times. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />I like the idea of the Caprica series and am looking forward to see it.<br />Unfortunately, that will be half a year after you guys, I suppose.</p><p>The Battlestarwike presents the series too:<br />http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Caprica_%28series%29</p><p>It seems to me that it can be description on how not to make a Asimov’s ‘Positronic Man’ via Startrek’s ‘Data’ and ‘Borgs’ into Cameron’s ‘Terminaters’. If so, the story has great potentials in ethical, legal and even religious philosophies and dramas.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 24, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I like the idea of the Caprica series and am looking forward to see it.Unfortunately, that will be half a year after you guys, I suppose.The Battlestarwike presents the series too:http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Caprica_%28series%29It seems to me that it can be description on how not to make a Asimov’s ‘Positronic Man’ via Startrek’s ‘Data’ and ‘Borgs’ into Cameron’s ‘Terminaters’. If so, the story has great potentials in ethical, legal and even religious philosophies and dramas. Posted by vidargander</DIV></p><p>BSG and some of the plotline for the Caprica series are definitely in the realm of the classic "Frankenstein" theme.  That theme and various offshoots of it has always been a good playground for ethical, legal and even religious philosophies.</p><p>I like that theme as it is being worked in the current Battlestar Galactica series.  I don't know how much I'll like it in some of the plot suggestions in Caprica.  I was always under the impression that the "cyborgs" in BSG were created by the Cylons or a related Artificial Intelligence.</p><p>Then again, the Cylon warriors (old style) weren't very bright.  But, that was portrayed a little differently in the series with the current Cylon Warrior caste obviously being very dimwitted but the old style Cylon Warriors were made out to be more intelligent.  They were depicted as having their own agenda, somewhat, in an episode.  (I was really excited about seeing the old Cylons brought out in that episode and immediately recognized the old Cylon Raider craft as soon as it came into view.

) </p><p>I wonder..</p><p>Could the old Cylon models and the new Cylon models have fundamental differences and orgins?  The new Cylon Warriors are obviously not very autonomous or intelligent compared to the older Cylon Warrior models while the new Cylon Cyborg models are extremely intelligent.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

bearack · Jul 25, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>BSG and some of the plotline for the Caprica series are definitely in the realm of the classic "Frankenstein" theme.  That theme and various offshoots of it has always been a good playground for ethical, legal and even religious philosophies.I like that theme as it is being worked in the current Battlestar Galactica series.  I don't know how much I'll like it in some of the plot suggestions in Caprica.  I was always under the impression that the "cyborgs" in BSG were created by the Cylons or a related Artificial Intelligence.Then again, the Cylon warriors (old style) weren't very bright.  But, that was portrayed a little differently in the series with the current Cylon Warrior caste obviously being very dimwitted but the old style Cylon Warriors were made out to be more intelligent.  They were depicted as having their own agenda, somewhat, in an episode.  (I was really excited about seeing the old Cylons brought out in that episode and immediately recognized the old Cylon Raider craft as soon as it came into view.

) I wonder..Could the old Cylon models and the new Cylon models have fundamental differences and orgins?  The new Cylon Warriors are obviously not very autonomous or intelligent compared to the older Cylon Warrior models while the new Cylon Cyborg models are extremely intelligent. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />Somewhere, I either read or saw a story line about the classic cylon centurions and the new centurions.  It was that the old centurions models broke off and created their own world and attempted to create their own version of skin jobs.  I think it was mentioned in the mini series and or web episode "Pegasus".  Or, it also could have been a product of my imagination

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vidargander · Jul 25, 2008

<div class="Discussion_PostQuote"><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>BSG and some of the plotline for the Caprica series are definitely in the realm of the classic "Frankenstein" theme.  That theme and various offshoots of it has always been a good playground for ethical, legal and even religious philosophies.I like that theme as it is being worked in the current Battlestar Galactica series.  I don't know how much I'll like it in some of the plot suggestions in Caprica.  I was always under the impression that the "cyborgs" in BSG were created by the Cylons or a related Artificial Intelligence.Then again, the Cylon warriors (old style) weren't very bright.  But, that was portrayed a little differently in the series with the current Cylon Warrior caste obviously being very dimwitted but the old style Cylon Warriors were made out to be more intelligent.  They were depicted as having their own agenda, somewhat, in an episode.  (I was really excited about seeing the old Cylons brought out in that episode and immediately recognized the old Cylon Raider craft as soon as it came into view.

) I wonder..Could the old Cylon models and the new Cylon models have fundamental differences and orgins?  The new Cylon Warriors are obviously not very autonomous or intelligent compared to the older Cylon Warrior models while the new Cylon Cyborg models are extremely intelligent. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV></div><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Somewhere, I either read or saw a story line about the classic cylon centurions and the new centurions.  It was that the old centurions models broke off and created their own world and attempted to create their own version of skin jobs.  I think it was mentioned in the mini series and or web episode "Pegasus".  Or, it also could have been a product of my imagination

  <br />Posted by bearack</DIV></p><p>It’s hard to find a common sense for ethics, legality and religion, - its maybe over our head. I think that BSG is doing a fair attempt to approach such philosophies. And I must say that religious or not, I respect the serious attests to figure such out, risking being wrong. Belief is a 50/50 philosophy.</p><p>Battlestarwiki provides thorough information about the Cylon modes, and even those that wasn’t made, http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Portal:Cylons There certainly were intelligent Cylons in the original series. One in particular was called Lucifer.</p><p>As far as I know, in the Caprica series, a girl is made a humanoid in order to keep her alive. There were made robots too. That’s the two species. A third one, I suppose, is about genetic redesigning human genes in ‘perfect’ technological order. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 25, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>... There certainly were intelligent Cylons in the original series. One in particular was called Lucifer.</DIV></p><p>I remember those.  But, I haven't seen an analogue to those in the new series.  The Cylons were also created by another race in the old series unlike the present BSG.  So, I'm not sure how accurate they want to be with referring to the old Cylons.  After all, if you look at the story from the present BSG point of view, the old "Lucifer" models wouldn't have been needed.</p><p>There was also a commander type of Cylon Warrior model -the Command Centurians.  They might have been kept in the newer backstory somewhere as one could appreciate the need for a "smarter" Cylon to make complex battlefield decisions on the spot.</p><p>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>As far as I know, in the Caprica series, a girl is made a humanoid in order to keep her alive. There were made robots too. That’s the two species. A third one, I suppose, is about genetic redesigning human genes in ‘perfect’ technological order. Posted by vidargander</DIV></p><p>If I recall correctly, that is what I remember reading as well.  Either that or the new "humanoid" version is just a cyborg that "looks like" the girl.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

vidargander · Jul 25, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I remember those.  But, I haven't seen an analogue to those in the new series.  The Cylons were also created by another race in the old series unlike the present BSG.  So, I'm not sure how accurate they want to be with referring to the old Cylons.  After all, if you look at the story from the present BSG point of view, the old "Lucifer" models wouldn't have been needed.There was also a commander type of Cylon Warrior model -the Command Centurians.  They might have been kept in the newer backstory somewhere as one could appreciate the need for a "smarter" Cylon to make complex battlefield decisions on the spot.If I recall correctly, that is what I remember reading as well.  Either that or the new "humanoid" version is just a cyborg that "looks like" the girl. <br />Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV><br /><br />Well, it doesn’t help taking a closer look.<br />You have seen the original Balter and the remade one. They don’t appear the same.</p><p>You haven’t seen the Iblis yet, - although he’s been there all the time.<br />The Lucifer Cylon is probably remade too into humanoid form and probably is the 7th Cylon on the BSG.</p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jul 25, 2008

<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Well, it doesn’t help taking a closer look.You have seen the original Balter and the remade one. They don’t appear the same.You haven’t seen the Iblis yet, - although he’s been there all the time.The Lucifer Cylon is probably remade too into humanoid form and probably is the 7th Cylon on the BSG. Posted by vidargander</DIV></p><p>I took a look at the Battlestar wiki.  I've seen it before but never used it to specifically look for anything.</p><p>The only comparisons I was making was really questioning how far into the old BSG backstory the new BSG is willing to go.  For instance, we've seen the old Cylon Centurion models in the New BSG.  They were also in the series/movie as "The Guardians" which was a separate, spinoff group from the Cylons that had their own hybrid and were trying to improve themselves by conducting genetic experiments.  They flew the old Raider design as well.</p><p>So, I was trying to figure out what they would keep and discard from the old series and what would "fit" in regards to how the Hybrids and Cyborgs were created.  Since "Caprica" referrences the creation of a cyborg in its storyline, I was hoping that was not going to be the explanation of how the Cylon Cyborgs came into being.  I had always thought the Cyborgs were somehow created by the Cylons.  But, according to the wiki, even the Cyborgs don't know who created them or why. </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font size="1">I put on my robe and wizard hat...</font> </div>

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