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vidargander · Jun 20, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Agreed a good episode (the one before it too).  Seems that Starbuck has lived up to her prophecy per the Cylon Hybrid.  I may have to watch it again to see if the opera house "truth" was learned or not. ..... sending out a "cry in the dark" for any of the other 12 tribes after the Humans and Cylons fought a war to their mutual extinction on Earth ? Posted by mee_n_mac</DIV>You lucky guys. Finally I got to see the last episode of season 3, - then they start on season 1 again. Hopefully I will catch up on you in 2009. Meanwhile, I did see half the episodes in the original BSG. It is obvious to me that the writers are bound to the original script and its theological myths. If so, - it’s not Earth they have found, but a look-alike planet with a look-alike culture. Quite frankly, - due to the writers’ chosen path, I don’t think it’s politically possible end that story on Earth. They have to use the good-old sci-fi trick to make it a fable at another time, another place and with other beings, - but very similar to our. I like sci-fi fables because they provide such other points of view. I suppose this BSG story will end out in a dooms-day climax, where a glooming army of Starbucks defeat the Iblis and a new city will be raised from the ruins. Meanwhile, most theological myths and prophesies will be dramatized in a viewer-rated soapbox fashion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iblis  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1tVQ7L_cs0   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · Jun 20, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Hybrid: Thus will it come to pass. The dying leader will know the truth of the opera house. The missing three will give you the five, who have come from the home of the thirteenth. You are the harbinger of death Kara Thrace. You will lead them all to their end.  End of line. Posted by mee_n_mac</DIV>You know, the Hybrid could be speaking metaphorically...the "their end" part might refer to the planet they land on - this is your fate, unless you all change.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Jun 21, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You know, the Hybrid could be speaking metaphorically...the "their end" part might refer to the planet they land on - this is your fate, unless you all change.  Posted by yevaud</DIV> Indeed !  Good point. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 22, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>You know, the Hybrid could be speaking metaphorically...the "their end" part might refer to the planet they land on - this is your fate, unless you all change.  Posted by yevaud</DIV>I agree and figured the same.Either, there is going to come a point where both sides will be confronted with the futility of their conflict and choose to change or they will have to unite together against a common foe/disaster.  Finding "Earth" in ruins is like Scrooge seeing his own tombstone.  They'll find evidence of a human/cyborg-mechanical conflict and then the decision will be forced upon them.However, an "ending" isn't a good ending if you can't leave the viewers with something to hold on to.  So, in that sense, an "ending" doesn't have to be a true end.  It can be a new beginning.  Nobody really likes "They lived happily ever after." anymore.  That's too.. wishy-washy.  So, I think there will be something that is brought up, some new mystery or struggle that confronts both Humans and Cylons and forces them to realize that the only way they will be able to survive is to work together against whatever it is.  Then, you introduce some conflict or situation for them to overcome and leave the viewer with a whole bunch of hooks and gimmicks for their imagination to work with as the Humans and Cylons battle together in some imagined future. It also sets the stage for possible spinoffs and movies as a bargain to boot.  "The End" doesn't cut it anymore, IMO. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

bdewoody · Jun 22, 2008

As there was no episode this week I guess that last week's was the last in the series and if so was very disappointing.Spoiler alert     A better ending would have been to have found the planet abandoned due to a natural event with evidence that we had left the planet to find a suitable home or better yet moved to Mars.     <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Bob DeWoody </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 22, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>As there was no episode this week I guess that last week's was the last in the series and if so was very disappointing.Spoiler alert     A better ending would have been to have found the planet abandoned due to a natural event with evidence that we had left the planet to find a suitable home or better yet moved to Mars.     Posted by bdewoody</DIV>There's another half of a season yet to air. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

bdewoody · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>There's another half of a season yet to air. Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> I thought I had read that these episodes were the last.  I'll be glad to see another season and hope that the whole thing will make more sense.  I do believe that the "skin jobs" and normal humans will end up together. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Bob DeWoody </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I thought I had read that these episodes were the last.  I'll be glad to see another season and hope that the whole thing will make more sense.  I do believe that the "skin jobs" and normal humans will end up together. Posted by bdewoody</DIV>IIRC, there are 10 more episodes left and, probably, one or two "webisodes" that will be on the 'net.  The problem is that the final 10 episodes might not air until 2009....  Go figure. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

bearack · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I thought I had read that these episodes were the last.  I'll be glad to see another season and hope that the whole thing will make more sense.  I do believe that the "skin jobs" and normal humans will end up together. Posted by bdewoody</DIV> Episode 11 was designed to be the last episode if the writers strike continued but since they settled, they were able to complete the remaining 9 episodes.  Last to be 3 hours long (potentially).  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

yevaud · Jun 23, 2008

If, when all is said and done in this series when it ends, they have done nothing more than left the Humans still searching for Earth, and the Cylons still pursuing them, I will scream, jibber insanely, and purchase a WMD on the clandestine 'Net and mail to them... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

bdewoody · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If, when all is said and done in this series when it ends, they have done nothing more than left the Humans still searching for Earth, and the Cylons still pursuing them, I will scream, jibber insanely, and purchase a WMD on the clandestine 'Net and mail to them... Posted by yevaud</DIV> I'll help you buy it!!! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Bob DeWoody </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If, when all is said and done in this series when it ends, they have done nothing more than left the Humans still searching for Earth, and the Cylons still pursuing them, I will scream, jibber insanely, and purchase a WMD on the clandestine 'Net and mail to them... Posted by yevaud</DIV>I'll help you pick it out! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 23, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>If, when all is said and done in this series when it ends, they have done nothing more than left the Humans still searching for Earth, and the Cylons still pursuing them, I will scream, jibber insanely, and purchase a WMD on the clandestine 'Net and mail to them... Posted by yevaud</DIV>Btw, here's something that may not bode well for the producer's offices..http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/Of particular interest: "<h3 id="a003055">"The Sopranos Ends Perfectly</h3> I will never forget the moment....Yep, that's it. He really did it. The man has guts. No, that's not enough. The man has balls the size of Volkswagens...Oh, I'm sure there are those who will bemoan the lack of resolution to the story or that Chase has somehow "robbed the fans" but I'm a fan and I'm ecstatic. I'm glad he thumbed his nose at the tyranny of the narrative drive to bring things to a tidy conclusion so we can all clap and walk away without another thought about that mob family in Jersey, satisfied that all's well that ends well. Screw that. I don't want to see Tony's death, nor do I want to watch him drive off into witness protection, or sit down to some kind of illusory happiness in the bosom of his family. I simply want to pretend that his life continues, that he's still simultaneously worrying about onion rings and whether that guy is hiding a gun in the restroom. It's poetic. It's exciting. It's perfect. And most of all, I wish I'd thought of it first." So, a possible "Sopranos-like" ending for BSG?  Maybe not so dramatic as all that, but a definite maybe on an "unresolved cliffhanger?"  I think it's highly likely.What color would you like the initial blast to be?  I think we could get a nice striking blue within the first few milliseconds if we did it right.  Or, do you prefer the nuclear-blast classic "OH SH__!" brilliant white?    <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

bearack · Jun 24, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Btw, here's something that may not bode well for the producer's offices..http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/Of particular interest: ""The Sopranos Ends Perfectly I will never forget the moment....Yep, that's it. He really did it. The man has guts. No, that's not enough. The man has balls the size of Volkswagens...Oh, I'm sure there are those who will bemoan the lack of resolution to the story or that Chase has somehow "robbed the fans" but I'm a fan and I'm ecstatic. I'm glad he thumbed his nose at the tyranny of the narrative drive to bring things to a tidy conclusion so we can all clap and walk away without another thought about that mob family in Jersey, satisfied that all's well that ends well. Screw that. I don't want to see Tony's death, nor do I want to watch him drive off into witness protection, or sit down to some kind of illusory happiness in the bosom of his family. I simply want to pretend that his life continues, that he's still simultaneously worrying about onion rings and whether that guy is hiding a gun in the restroom. It's poetic. It's exciting. It's perfect. And most of all, I wish I'd thought of it first." So, a possible "Sopranos-like" ending for BSG?  Maybe not so dramatic as all that, but a definite maybe on an "unresolved cliffhanger?"  I think it's highly likely.What color would you like the initial blast to be?  I think we could get a nice striking blue within the first few milliseconds if we did it right.  Or, do you prefer the nuclear-blast classic "OH SH__!" brilliant white?    Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> In a recent interview with Edward James Olmos, he clearly indicated that no such "Sopranos" ending will occur but we will be flabber ghasted

Q&A 3: 3. What can you share about the last half of this final season? EJO = Well, there's not going to be a big black screen at the end, with everyone sitting there going, "What?" But to do a spoiler right now would not be the best thing for the people who are into this. They're going to be very happy when they get to the very end.Interview here: <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

vidargander · Jun 24, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> In a recent interview with Edward James Olmos, he clearly indicated that no such "Sopranos" ending will occur but we will be flabber ghasted

Q&A 3: 3. What can you share about the last half of this final season?EJO = Well, there's not going to be a big black screen at the end, with everyone sitting there going, "What?" But to do a spoiler right now would not be the best thing for the people who are into this. They're going to be very happy when they get to the very end.Interview here: Posted by bearack</DIV>I’ve previously said that the writers are so bound to the original series that this so-called ‘reimagined’ series had to end the same way as the original. If so, the planet Terra isn’t Earth, but is heading towards a nuclear doomsday. However, there was an additional miniseries of 10 episodes called ‘Galactica 1980’.   http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Portal:Galactica_1980/Episode_Guide_-_Season_1_Guide    In that mini-series, BSG actually find Earth and prepare the less advanced humans for the coming cylons attack.  Even a cylon androide ’Andromus’ is introduced as a main character. That sounds interesting, when knowing there are 10 episodes left of BSG that might be a re-make of the ‘Galactica 1980’. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 25, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'> In a recent interview with Edward James Olmos, he clearly indicated that no such "Sopranos" ending will occur but we will be flabber ghasted

Q&A 3: 3. What can you share about the last half of this final season?EJO = Well, there's not going to be a big black screen at the end, with everyone sitting there going, "What?" But to do a spoiler right now would not be the best thing for the people who are into this. They're going to be very happy when they get to the very end.Interview here: Posted by bearack</DIV>Whew!  We narrowly averted a potential disaster there.  Glad that's cleaned up.

Back to DefCon 5 everybody. /stands down <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Jun 25, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Back to DefCon 5 everybody. /stands down Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> I dunno, if BSG ends up like Galactica 1980 I'd say it's time for a pre-emptive nuking ! However cheesy the original BSG (? BSG:TOS ?) was, it was at least SF worthy of the times. Gacktica 1980 was so bad it made people switch channels to watch Buck Rogers ... and enjoy it*. *that said, some of Buck's babes in spandex were smokin ! <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 25, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I dunno, if BSG ends up like Galactica 1980 I'd say it's time for a pre-emptive nuking ! However cheesy the original BSG (? BSG:TOS ?) was, it was at least SF worthy of the times. Gacktica 1980 was so bad it made people switch channels to watch Buck Rogers ... and enjoy it*. *that said, some of Buck's babes in spandex were smokin ! Posted by mee_n_mac</DIV>True, spandex is awesome.  The rest of it was crap...DEFCON 3 <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/0/4/903bdcfb-5d18-4e02-b412-2458bc1c6d57.Medium.jpg" alt="" />   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

bearack · Jun 26, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>True, spandex is awesome.  The rest of it was crap...DEFCON 3   Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> But if you remember, Galactica 1980, the last three episodes had the first skin jobs.  <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <img id="06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53" src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/6/14/06322a8d-f18d-4ab1-8ea7-150275a4cb53.Large.jpg" alt="blog post photo" /> </div>

a_lost_packet_ · Jun 27, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>But if you remember, Galactica 1980, the last three episodes had the first skin jobs.  Posted by bearack</DIV>So... Were they good looking women in spandex in the last three episodes?<Inserts Key> <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/3/0/4389e608-ea54-4d8c-b083-c665a90fa777.Medium.jpg" alt="" />   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> I put on my robe and wizard hat... </div>

vidargander · Jun 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>So... Were they good looking women in spandex in the last three episodes?<Inserts Key>   Posted by a_lost_packet_</DIV> Don’t you mean pressure suites?  <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/8/1/d8e2181f-9f83-47c4-b12f-f330abf6ba9d.Medium.jpg" alt="" />   … kind of fetish spandex I guess. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

yevaud · Jun 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Don’t you mean pressure suites? Posted by vidargander</DIV>I work in a Pressure Suite.Well, actually it's a tiny office... <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

vidargander · Jun 28, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I work in a Pressure Suite.Well, actually it's a tiny office... Posted by yevaud</DIV> Nice job; a Pressure Suite with such Pressure Suit colleagues. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

Mee_n_Mac · Jun 29, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>Don’t you mean pressure suites?  http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image

ressureSuits.jpg#file   … kind of fetish spandex I guess. Posted by vidargander</DIV> I was thinking Markie Post ... <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/15/8/efeed74d-5d11-478a-8891-9c35ab1b5f1c.Medium.jpg" alt="" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> -----------------------------------------------------Ask not what your Forum Software can do do on you,Ask it to, please for the love of all that's Holy, STOP ! </div>

yevaud · Jun 29, 2008

Replying to: <DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'>I was thinking Markie Post ... Posted by Mee_n_Mac</DIV>*Yow!* <img src="http://sitelife.space.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/13/10/1d4302aa-4a9b-48c0-aa6d-404331f4904e.Medium.gif" alt="" />   <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Differential Diagnosis: "I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are." </div>

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