Moon Landings Faked? (and all other space mission fakery)

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Be careful about calling people liars. If you do so, you must provide proof here at SDC. Many of us were alive at that time and watched it happen right in front of us. Thousands of people participated in the missions. If you are too young to have watched it happen, or you did not work on the effort, I would suggest you are innocently ignorant.

Please look at real scientific sites (not the one you are relying on) for real facts.

Wayne

 

[Mooned]

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"Liars" is my heart felt belief. It is only factual in that sense.

The Apollo fraud is not a conclusion I came to with glee. For 30 years it was reason for having pride in America. Despite the misery my country caused the people of Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, East Timor, Viet Nam... I could always remind myself of the wonderful accomplishment. I ordered authentic patches direct from NASA and made my son a series of NASA Apollo flight jackets as he was growing up. The jackets were important. I was teaching him who we are as Americans. We are every bit as corrupt as Mexico. American corruption just takes a different form.

Being alive during the moon shots does not make anyone any more or less qualified to judge. I was 13 and glued to the television in 1969... it was still a product completely controlled by NASA with no means of independent verification. The only thing one could independently verify would have been the launch.

Your claim of a site not being scientific is a prime example of a propagandist offering a claim without making the slightest effort to support it. You're not going to tell us why you think a site is unscientific? I'm willing go out on a limb here and guess that an "unscientific" site is simply one which you disagree.

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

OK, this political post will likely be moved to it's very own thread in the Politics forum. You want to rant about political issues, that's where it belongs. Enjoy...

MMW

 

[Mooned]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Met Wayane
Speaking of space, in what Universe would fudging a humongous government program NOT be political?

 

[drwayne]

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Mooned,

Welcome to the forum.

A couple of points:

(1) Discussion of moderator actions is not permitted within the thread. MeteorWayne and I are both moderators. (Same first name, different
last)

(2) Distortions of user names is also not permitted.

I recommend you review the community guidelines for this forum.

Thanks,

Wayne

 

[a_lost_packet_]

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...The Apollo fraud is not a conclusion I came to with glee. For 30 years it was reason for having pride in America. Despite the misery my country caused the people of Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, East Timor, Viet Nam... I could always remind myself of the wonderful accomplishment. I ordered authentic patches direct from NASA and made my son a series of NASA Apollo flight jackets as he was growing up. The jackets were important. I was teaching him who we are as Americans. We are every bit as corrupt as Mexico. American corruption just takes a different form...

It seems your belief in an Apollo hoax is more derived from your criticism of America in general rather than based on any factual evidence.

Being alive during the moon shots does not make anyone any more or less qualified to judge. I was 13 and glued to the television in 1969... it was still a product completely controlled by NASA with no means of independent verification. The only thing one could independently verify would have been the launch.

That is not true today. There are pictures taken of the landing sights along with what has been left behind on the Moon. I suppose you feel these are "fake" as well?

Your claim of a site not being scientific is a prime example of a propagandist offering a claim without making the slightest effort to support it. You're not going to tell us why you think a site is unscientific? I'm willing go out on a limb here and guess that an "unscientific" site is simply one which you disagree.

If that site is "scientific" in falsifying the Apollo missions then it's simply "very bad, horrendously wrong, science."

Edit-Add - I looked at the site. It's junk. It's simply garbage reasoning backed by more worthless garbage. It's terrible. It's not even worthy of being called anything other than junk, let alone "science." In the examples I looked at, so many scientific observations learned by mankind in the past few thousand years have been so simply overlooked, misstated or completely ignored that the resulting arguments were simple nonsense. It's full of garbage. Don't bother with trying to use anything there as "evidence" to support an idea that the Apollo landings did not occur. It'd be so thoroughly discredited so quickly the internet ink would fly off the page.

 

[origin]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

the 1969 version of this, i believe is not true. well, thats just me.

there's no point in discussing things like this, but we as people always try to fight, so i think this also normal. its like discussing religion gods and the all-time fave, "chicken and egg" debate. lol.

It is the egg, there is no other possible answer, nothing to debate (unless you don't beleive evolution is occuring).

 

[Principal_Investigator]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

It is my belief that yes, in fact we did go to the moon, however, the footage was spliced together with actual footage and studio footage to hide certain discoveries that were made on the surface of the moon. What discoveries those were have been speculated upon for years by many credible resources. After doing the research myself, those alleged discoveries led me to other discoveries made all across our solar system. I believe that in antiquity the human race, or possibly some other race native to THIS solar system, OUR solar system, were an advanced space faring people, far more advanced than we are technologically. Somthing happenned to this people, something catoustrophic, and I believe their ruins are scatterred all across the solar system, including our moon, Luna. Some of those ruins were allegedly discovered by America and unmanned Russion probes. Due to the Brookings Report, a now adopted and accepted policy within NASA, the knowelge of those discoveries were surpressed due the religious, political, and social implications these discoveries would have at the time. Once we our ready as a species for that knowledge I believe it will be officially revealed to us by the governments and space agencies of the world.

If we don't destroy ourselves first.

 

[MeteorWayne]

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{cue X-Files theme music} :roll:

 

[a_lost_packet_]

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It is my belief that yes, in fact we did go to the moon, however, the footage was spliced together with actual footage and studio footage to hide certain discoveries that were made on the surface of the moon. What discoveries those were have been speculated upon for years by many credible resources. After doing the research myself, those alleged discoveries led me to other discoveries made all across our solar system. I believe that in antiquity the human race, or possibly some other race native to THIS solar system, OUR solar system, were an advanced space faring people, far more advanced than we are technologically. Somthing happenned to this people, something catoustrophic, and I believe their ruins are scatterred all across the solar system, including our moon, Luna. Some of those ruins were allegedly discovered by America and unmanned Russion probes. Due to the Brookings Report, a now adopted and accepted policy within NASA, the knowelge of those discoveries were surpressed due the religious, political, and social implications these discoveries would have at the time. Once we our ready as a species for that knowledge I believe it will be officially revealed to us by the governments and space agencies of the world.

If we don't destroy ourselves first.

Ah....

..After doing the research myself,..

Well, there's where you obviously went wrong.

 

[MeteorWayne]

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Apparently

 

[Woggles]

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. Once we our ready as a species for that knowledge I believe it will be officially revealed to us by the governments and space agencies of the world.

Who make that determination?

 

[Mee_n_Mac]

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Your claim of a site not being scientific is a prime example of a propagandist offering a claim without making the slightest effort to support it. You're not going to tell us why you think a site is unscientific? I'm willing go out on a limb here and guess that an "unscientific" site is simply one which you disagree.

I spent just a few minutes at the site you referenced. I picked one example of their "proof", in this case, the movement on the background and foreground objects relative to the LEM as the photographer moved. It was claimed the background moved too much as well as the flag whereas some other rocks didn't move enough. It sounds good until you realize they didn't provide any geometry to support their claim. That's "unscientific".

Now I suppose I could dig up all the facts and determine the geometry myself but I really have better things to do with my time. And I suspect the author(s) know this, which is why they don't offer up the data to support their claim. If they want to convince the world that their claim is the true one then they need to do the legwork and put up the data and math to show that they are correct. If the rest of the claims made at this site are as "well backed" as the one I looked at ... that speaks for itself.

 

[Kerberos]

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That was a good site, Mooned. But proceed with caution; if you get too close to the truth about the coverup, you may quietly "disappear" from the boards here.

 

[CommonMan]

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There do seem to be alot of missing people around here. Men in Black! Govenment? :shock:

 

[yevaud]

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{cue X-Files theme music} :roll:

http://www.televisiontunes.com/X-Files.html

 

[drwayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Careful, we might need this one too:

http://www.televisiontunes.com/Kolchak_ ... alker.html

 

[Woggles]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

Here is another reason why it can't be fake!

http://theufologynetwork.freeforum.ca/s ... t1406.html

You can't just fake something like this!!! :lol:

 

[StarWatcher44]

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I may be pretty young but I know that the moon landing was definatially apsolutly positivly NOT faked!!!!!!! I hate it what people go and try to crush everyones dreams with that. I have always been fasinated with the moon and the first time I heard that my friends had to hold me back from beating that kid to a pulp. I back up all of you who say the moon landing was defitally not faked

~Tarot Girl~

 

[Kerberos]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

You're making an extraordinary claim. You need to provide evidence.

 

[MeteorWayne]

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Kerberos..

YOU need to stop trolling.

Moderator Meteor Wayne

 

[Kerberos]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

In order to avoid any possible or perceived conflicts of interest, you need to make full disclosure of any connections you may have to NASA, MeteorWayne.

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

None whatsoever. And don't dare accuse me of that again.

 

[Kerberos]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

No accusations, Wayne, but when you're in a position of authority, it is important to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Since it appears that you are trying to discourage dissent on this issue, full disclosure is appropriate.

 

[MeteorWayne]

Re: Moon Landings Faked?

I'm actually quite tired of you suggesting that I am using my moderator authority to supress dissent as a NASA tool. Next time you suggest such a thing, you damn well better have proof.