Ok enough Star Trek time for....

[Kalstang]

<font color="yellow">STAR WARS!!!</font><br /><br />Which did you like better. The Original Star Wars or the Special Edition ones? (and no i'm not talking about episodes I, II, III)<br /><br />Me I still think the Original is the best. I think they kinda ruined em when they brought out the Special Edition ones. I remember going to the opening of Star Wars: Empire Strikes back. I was roughly 5 years old at the time. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>

 

[jmilsom]

I like the originals. Those new digitally added monsters seem strangely out of place. <br /><br />On a different note. Aren't some of the names in Star Wars ridiculous. I mean, Anakin's mother is called Shmi.<br /><br />Say it..... Shmi......Shmi....<br /><br />Say you...Say Shmi.....Say it together.. That's the way it should be. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Kalstang]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>On a different note. Aren't some of the names in Star Wars ridiculous. I mean, Anakin's mother is called Shmi.<p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Well you wouldnt expect someone that lives in a galaxy far far away to have the same kinda names that we have here in this galaxy now would you? <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /><br />Good song btw <img src="/images/icons/smile.gif" />. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>

 

[yevaud]

Hmm. And here I was always thinking Emperor Palpatine's first name was "Ralph." <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><em>Differential Diagnosis:  </em>"<strong><em>I am both amused and annoyed that you think I should be less stubborn than you are</em></strong>."<br /> </p> </div>

 

[Kalstang]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>Hmm. And here I was always thinking Emperor Palpatine's first name was "Ralph." <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />lol <img src="/images/icons/laugh.gif" /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>

 

[jmilsom]

.... it could be Shmalph. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[flynn]

Most of it just isn't needed but increasing the ammount of fighters going after the first deathstar was needed. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[flynn]

And the "Jar Jar" from the Karma Sutra <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[Kalstang]

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /><p>And the "Jar Jar" from the Karma Sutra <p><hr /></p></p></blockquote><br /><br />Yes but thats in episodes 1-3...we're talking about episodes 4-6 <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>

 

[flynn]

You can see Naboo complete with Gungans at the end of six <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#800080">"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring" - <strong>Chuck Palahniuk</strong>.</font> </div>

 

[lukman]

I dont even think Star Wars is a Sci Fi movie, for me, it is only an action movie like Fast and Furious or Rambo, the only different is that Star Wars was about the action in the future. They dont even explain the technolgu they are using. Pity, if compare to real sci fi movie like: Lost in Space, Sphere, Star Trek... even spiderman, terminator is more sci fi than Star Wars <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> </div>

 

[Kalstang]

lukman says: <font color="yellow">Pity, if compare to real sci fi movie like: Lost in Space, Sphere, Star Trek... even spiderman, terminator is more sci fi than Star Wars </font><br /><br />*quirks eyebrows* Your kidding right? The first star wars was more advanced then any other sci fi movie that came out at the time. As far as i'm concerned it set the standard for sci fi. <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <font color="#ffff00"><p><font color="#3366ff">I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer.</font> <br /><font color="#ff0000">"Imagination is more important then Knowledge" ~Albert Einstien~</font> <br /><font color="#cc99ff">Guns dont kill people. People kill people</font>.</p></font><p><font color="#ff6600">Solar System</font></p> </div>

 

[SpeedFreek]

I'm with lukman here.<br /><br />Star Wars isn't really sci-fi. Well it's certainly not hard sci-fi. Its a fairy tale set long ago in a galaxy far, far away. At best, its science-fantasy.<br /><br />It has all the elements of a fantasy fairy-tale. Simple farm boy, princess, evil bad guy, wise old man. Farm boy helps defeat evil, using powers of good with the help of the wise old man, and falls in love with the princess. Substitute the star-wars universe for a hundred fantasy novel settings, it has been done many times.<br /><br />To me, sci-fi has to have a "new" idea, based on science, to be termed sci-fi. Taking existing ideas (beam weapons, hyperspace etc) and setting a romantic fairy-tale within them does not constitute sci-fi.<br /><br />But I am a hard sci-fi fan, so I am biased.<br /><br />Is anything set in the future, or in another galaxy, sci-fi?<br /><br />Is a detective story, set in space, sci-fi?<br /><br />Is a love story set in space, sci-fi?<br /><br />Not to me. (Having said all that, I do like the star wars films and own all 6 on DVD!) It has to have more than just being set in the future/another galaxy to be decent science fiction. Where's the science? <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>

 

[hracctsold]

So that would make "Bladerunner" just a detective show?

 

[SpeedFreek]

I'm glad you mentioned Bladerunner, which is based on the story by Philip K Dick - Do androids dream of electric sheep.<br /><br />The story introduced many new ideas when it was published - the idea of replicant humans, of the cultural, emotional and moral problems they faced, and the problems normal humans had with the replicants. This was a new idea in science-fiction at the time. There were a lot of other new ideas in that novel (I can't be more specific as I haven't read it in over 10 years - in fact, I just bought it again as it was released in the SF Masterworks series and I seem to have lost my old copy, and it's the next book in my reading list!).<br /><br />As Bladerunner is based on that novel, it does fall into the Sci-Fi bracket for me (although some think of it as the grandaddy of cyberpunk).<br /><br />A detective story (where there's simply a robbery or murder to solve for instance) set in the future isn't in itself, science fiction. Where's the fictional science in it? Where are the new ideas?<br /><br />I realise I am taking a pretty hard line (being a "hard" sci-fi fan) here... and I doubt many people will agree with me. That's fine of course!<br /><br />My favorite modern sci-fi authors are Richard Morgan and Stephen Baxter (Baxters "Vacuum Diagrams" is a great collection of linked short stories to start with, and it is mind-blowing stuff!). These guys introduce new ideas with nearly everything they produce.<br /><br />Down with pulp sci-fi!! <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" /><br /> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> <p><font color="#ff0000">_______________________________________________<br /></font><font size="2"><em>SpeedFreek</em></font> </p> </div>