<p><BR/>Replying to:<BR/><DIV CLASS='Discussion_PostQuote'><font color="#ff6600">I really doubt you had better interpretations of their data than they did, and this sooner than they did. <font color="#ff6600">They just like to go further in their asymptotical approach of certainty, since the govt/public is paying them, and they have more reputation at stake than an internet forum username's....</font>You find some interesting stuff (like the standing dust patterns) but jump way too fast to conclusions. An image artifact isn't a water bear, some shadow tricks and lint aren't worms or signs of life... With all due respect..m. <br />Posted by nimbus</font></DIV></p><p>_________________________________________________________________</p><p><font color="#ff6600">I really doubt you had better interpretations of their data than they did, and this sooner than they did. </font></p><p>I posted some work of movement in the soil of the microscopic images from the sol 4 microscopic images back on June 16,th and tried in vain to notify other people in the phoenix program of the importance of finding movement in the microscopic imager images that may back up future claims of water sublimation and/or life. If you going to make a extraordinary claim then its best to have more than just one set of evidence.... It took them a month after June 16th to post more microscopic images on sol 52.</p><p>I made over 3,000 color images from the MER raw images, that is not an easy task to do. No I didn't work for them, just overcome with curiosity. So I do somewhat know what I am doing. The sublimation at the Phoenix lander I found first and I can back that up with evidence, I even showed them how to do it however they would have eventually found it, it was right under their noses............ </p><p>The learning curve at the MER rover site has been over 4 years, they can learn a lot from people who worked on that program such as the importance of shooting certain images for movement of soil, stuck wheel, dust movement, burred salts, etc, etc. in Phoenixs case the use of the robotic arm. Phoenix has a very short time to go through a similar learning curve before the mission is over. </p><p>I didn't claim to have a better interpretation than they do, I said on numerous occasions that they hold most of the cards...<font color="#0000ff">Their holding most the cards but they promised that they would release more information for wider amount of peer reviews streamlining the process.. </font></p><p><font color="#ff6600">They just like to go further in their asymptotical approach of certainty, since the govt/public is paying them, and they have more reputation at stake than an internet forum username's..</font></p><p><font color="#000000">I agree with that and never claimed otherwise, however most of us here are more than just some user name....</font></p><p><font color="#ff6600">You find some interesting stuff (like the standing dust patterns) but jump way too fast to conclusions. An image artifact isn't a water bear, some shadow tricks and lint aren't worms or signs of life... With all due respect..m. </font></p>Now please read my posts very carefully before you jump to a conclusion about me jumping to conclusion, I never claimed such. I said, <span style="font-family:Verdana"><font color="#0000ff">On another note, this is strictly a hypothetical thought and nothing more, about a segmented animals species know as a water bear, Tardigrade, ... <p><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:black;font-family:Verdana"><font color="#0000ff">It probably is explainable in a traditional since but if not, with other scientific confirmations, we may now have a real opportunity to expand the boundaries of the existence of life outside this pebble we call home.... </font></span></span></p></font></span><p>I am just posting what I found here with some comments like I have been doing for over 4 years from what I found at the MER sites. If most of the people here wants me to stop then I can easily pick up my marbles and go play somewhere else...................</p><p> </p> <div class="Discussion_UserSignature"> Ron Bennett </div>